SonicDeathMonkey80 Member

If Desi Linden is wrong, who would want to be right?

Speed doesn't always influence form. A good runner can maintain good form/cadence no matter what the speed.

I feel you. Recovery week is just as bad :)

Congrats! -HF#7147/MM#9909

I can attest to the fact that long runs are much easier when done in a corresponding week of daily run volume. A 20 miler in a 70 mile week is simple in terms of performance and recovery when compared to doing it on a 45 mile week.

Reduce your time, but keep the same intensity. Don't rest too much. Are you following a plan?

1 - 12mi, intervals 2 - 6mi, easy 3 - 8mi, easy w/strides 4 - 10mi, easy 5 - 20mi, long run 6 - 5mi, easy 7 - 7mi, intervals 8 - Rest 9 - 8mi, easy 10 - 6mi, easy w/strides 11 - 6mi, easy 12 - 14mi, easy 13 - 5mi, easy 14 - 6mi, intervals 15 - 4mi, easy 16 - Rest 17 - 3mi, easy 18 - 26.3mi, Carmel Marathon 19 - Rest 20 -…

Running - not racing - a half to baseline a future raced half? How does that work?

Carmel Marathon: 3:19 -- 11min PR. 56th OA, 11th AG

How long are you training cycles? Five months each, from the sound of it?

Sounds like you identified all the causes.

As long as you know when to walk and won't get all crabby about not doing your best, I say go for it.

1 - 12mi, intervals 2 - 6mi, easy 3 - 8mi, easy w/strides 4 - 10mi, easy 5 - 20mi, long run 6 - 5mi, easy 7 - 7mi, intervals 8 - Rest 9 - 8mi, easy 10 - 6mi, easy w/strides 11 - 6mi, easy 12 - 14mi, easy 13 - 5mi, easy 14 - 6mi, intervals 15 - 4mi, easy 16 - Rest 17 - 3mi, easy 18 - 26.3mi, Carmel Marathon 19 - Rest 20 -…

Thanks :) It was about 300ish feet for the whole course, hence why I choose it in particular race. The heat was pretty bad at the end - nearly 70°

I heard that was supposed to be a rainy one - glad it held off

1 - 12mi, intervals 2 - 6mi, easy 3 - 8mi, easy w/strides 4 - 10mi, easy 5 - 20mi, long run 6 - 5mi, easy 7 - 7mi, intervals 8 - Rest 9 - 8mi, easy 10 - 6mi, easy w/strides 11 - 6mi, easy 12 - 14mi, easy 13 - 5mi, easy 14 - 6mi, intervals 15 - 4mi, easy 16 - Rest 17 - 3mi, easy 18 - 26.3mi, Carmel Marathon Nailed my goal…

1 - 12mi, intervals 2 - 6mi, easy 3 - 8mi, easy w/strides 4 - 10mi, easy 5 - 20mi, long run 6 - 5mi, easy 7 - 7mi, intervals 8 - Rest 9 - 8mi, easy 10 - 6mi, easy w/strides 11 - 6mi, easy 12 - 14mi, easy 13 - 5mi, easy 14 - 6mi, intervals 15 - 4mi, easy 16 - Rest 17 - 3mi, easy 3 miles for my shakeout run before tomorrow's…

Any distance can be a beast to train for. After my marathon Saturday, I'm training for a 5k. I'll be putting in the same high mileage but with lots of speedwork. A marathon is no more of a challenge than a well-trained 5k.

Hates running, signs up for a marathon. Makes zero sense.

Nope. Whether I run a 7:30 or 12:30 mile, my stride/cadence is all the same - 176-184. Only when I go from 5:30-7:00 does it really change to 190-200+. Speed is not an excuse for poor form, unless you're going faster than you are able to for a specific duration.

As an accomplished triathlete of three sprints of varying embarrassing times, I would celebrate getting off the bike with a leisurely 5k walk.

1 - 12mi, intervals 2 - 6mi, easy 3 - 8mi, easy w/strides 4 - 10mi, easy 5 - 20mi, long run 6 - 5mi, easy 7 - 7mi, intervals 8 - Rest 9 - 8mi, easy 10 - 6mi, easy w/strides 11 - 6mi, easy 12 - 14mi, easy 13 - 5mi, easy 14 - 6mi, intervals 15 - 4mi, easy 16 - Rest Total: 117.4mi April goal: ~180mi

You Ironman people always shock me when you do standalone races :)

Yep. I was there once myself, and I plateaued at 8:00 mile pace for everything. And to a point this goes for races as well. I'm in a couple clubs (Half Fanatics/Marathon Maniacs) and lots of the members will pile on the races and get all out of whack when they don't PR at each one of them. Even during a race, a PR…

My favorite shoes are the ones that are best for my feet and stride, not which ones are best for my wallet.

The purpose of easy training runs is not to beat your previous paces. You're not winning anything, except more recovery time.

I think it is possible, but it is also not wise to set out to do so on all of your training runs. Keep your easy runs easy. My easy pace is a good 2-3 minutes above my 5k PR. Running fast all the time is a recipe for burn out, and in a race it can be a disaster.

My first race was an indoor 5k, the day after Christmas 2010. I was the only one to show up and the race director said I could just skip it and take the shirt, or he'd time me all the same. I ran it, and I came in dead last with a 29:xx. Since I also came in first, I treated myself to some clearanced Christmas candy.

1 - 12mi, intervals 2 - 6mi, easy 3 - 8mi, easy w/strides 4 - 10mi, easy 5 - 20mi, long run 6 - 5mi, easy 7 - 7mi, intervals 8 - Rest 9 - 8mi, easy 10 - 6mi, easy w/strides 11 - 6mi, easy 12 - 14.1mi, easy 13 - 5mi, easy 14 - 6mi, intervals 2.5mi warmup, 2mi at marathon pace (7:40), 1.5mi cooldown Total: 101mi April goal:…

Comparison is the thief of joy. Good job :)