MelRC117 Member

I'm going to focus on the bold part since I've never seen the data you suggest in the first paragraph. I don't understand what you mean that fat is double the calories, as in what that means to low carb diets? Low carb dieters don't take the 100g of carbs they would eat otherwise and go and eat 100g of fat instead because…

There are too many numbers and letters this early in the morning but I would assume NPLC would mean the fat ratio would be high, like keto ratios would be. Just throwing that out there.

And from my view, most low carbers focus on their macro ratios. Just their macros look a little different than the SAD.

This is exactly what I'm pointing out. A lot of low carbers DO think CICO matters. But the focus seems to be on those that have a handful of posts and, at least from what I see, very new to that WOE. All those that came in to defend the OP in the thread that started this seem new to not only MFP, but also to low…

The benefit is from eating high fat and moderate protein, it keeps you feeling full which means to eat less overall calories. If you experience cramping, make sure you're consuming enough potassium and sodium. The first few weeks of eating low carb (well depending on how low you mean low), you may lose a large amount of…

And this whole thread based on an OP that had 34 posts, insists it was eating low carb and not the 1200 daily calories she was eating? And then in the total of almost 15 pages of the whole thread had maybe 3 people agree with her that maybe have a total of 50 posts between them? I mean really, you can't really think that…

I think the 10 people that first posted with their popcorn also were in because of the title so don't single me out. It also not that unheard of for you to do that.

You state in your title "Why don't the low carb folks believe in CICO?". You seem pretty focused on those few that may claim that when in actuality most do. Especially the long term LCHF people. And actually that part your bolded wasn't referring to you.

Wow....didn't read this whole thread. OP - A lot of LCHF acknowledge CICO. Sorry you only focus on those that don't. Sounds like you're just looking to pick a fight or maybe you should rephrase your title. Reading some of these posts a lot of people make assumptions about LCHF and just make judgements on that. How about…

Is your goal to post as many articles as possible in one day? I would suggest you scan the forums a little more as cleanses are discussed ad nauseam.

I wouldn't feel very full either when a majority of your calories are coming from carbs. I doubt there is little protein or fat in that lean pocket. Eat those rice cakes with peanut butter. Add a salad with dressing and cheese with lunch.

This x10000000

At one time, many of us were in the same boat as your friend. When she's ready to stop with finding the easiest route and instead learn the skill of logging/weighing/measuring and practicing it, she will. That doesn't make her an idiot. Seems sometimes people easily forget where they came from when they know it all now.

Where does it say low protein.....? Keto dieting is low carbs/high fat/MODERATE protein.

Oh. How very mature of you. If you put something on a forum and don't add "I'm going through some emotional things already and have depression" you will get plenty of "suck it up buttercup". People don't know your whole story,true, BUT you posted a snapshot and a 23 woman crawling into a ball over one comment from her best…

People are lying if they have never judged someone, whether its their size, their clothes, their hair, whatever. You need to talk about how her words affected you. She may have not even realized those words hurt because they weren't about YOU. A couple of comments about picture about a different girl isn't something worth…

...But people stating that low carb/IF/vegan/eating only cookies is what works for them are not saying it is necessary to lose weight? It may not be sustainable for you but there are several people it IS sustainable for. I do understand calorie deficit. One method isn't necessary...calorie deficit is. I also never said all…

It goes back to the statement whay Wizzybeth had said that if they just do the statement that it works for them there is no issue. JPW and I both disagreed with that claim and Emily came along and proved the point we were making.

Why is it ridculous if it helps someone get to a calorie deficit? Because YOU don't agree with it?

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with your first statement. It's usually followed by "Why not just eat low calorie and be able to eat ice cream/beef/cereal/wine etc?!?!?!" Why do people care? YOU aren't the one cutting it out, the poster is. It's just what the person chooses to get them to a calorie deficit.

If you haven't dropped the weight at all in a calorie deficit, then something isn't right. Are you sure you're in a 500-750 calorie deficit? A low carb diet is one way to a calorie deficit. The issue is you would need to drop maybe 15 pounds because once you introduce back carbs you will gain some water weight back. As…

I wouldn't stop eating there if I can't find it in the database if I liked eating some place. If they don't have the information, try to find a ballpark estimate of what you ate. Round up. Try to enter the separate components of what you are eating like you mentioned. The issue of if you're hungry 5 minutes later is up to…

That was my concern is that without you, he doesn't know what is going into it and he isn't learning on his own these methods.

Have you logged your weight? The app isn't going to show it if YOU don't enter it.

Well if he logged the food himself it wouldn't be sneaking. Unless if she crushed up that cookie into other food and didn't log it, that would be sneaking. He would know whether or not he ate the cookie. OP - You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink. If he isn't logging then he isn't seeing the warnings or…

Its one thing to make the meals, but to log them for him? No, that's ridiculous. Does she need to cut up his meat and feed it to him too? And your husband isn't doing the work...all he is doing is eating what is set in front of him. He's losing weight because he apparently only eats the food you give him.

Since when is "thin" unhealthy and just pressured by media? Why is this assumed? What about "I just don't like feeling like a fatass"? You worry about your goals and let others worry about their own. Don't tell others how to determine their goals. Live and let live.

Well how many calories are you eating? Eating too much protein alone won't make you gain weight IF you are in a calorie deficit or at maintenance.

The boyfriend isn't the one making the forum post on MFP. She even said he was fit. You should have caught that since you read everything she wrote in context.

Low carb is a great option if it helps you decrease overall calories eaten. It isn't a dumb idea if its what works for you. You will gain water weight back, but not all you lose is water weight. If you eat at maintenance levels, you won't gain back fat. 74 g per day is somewhat low carb to me, as 20-30g is what I consider…