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You're welcome. And Lyle's work is much like a smartphone app, "there's an article (or book) for that." So, it's really hard to disagree with him. Most overweight individuals tend to not be big meat eaters, especially women. And that's not an overstatement by any means. Remember that among the three macros, carbs and fat…

@bmeadows380 Just as a continuation from the above since the excerpt takes up space, but yes, be patient with your sister and yourself. Ideally, what she needs is the most basic of knowledge, and simply that's to reduce her total calorie intake. The approach I would personally take is to provide healthier alternatives to…

It's not too hard to imagine that a larger body of mass does require a lot of energy to sustain itself, but I understand where you're coming from. That rough estimate does get more inaccurate at either extreme of bf%, so use MFP's calculator instead. Just as a reiteration of that, I'll include an excerpt from Lyle's…

I believe I made many unsubtle "white substance" expulsion comments in that thread. The OP specifically used chicken fat as her example. I couldn't ignore taking the shot, so to speak.

I think your fasting glucose measurements are more indicative of metabolic health and glucose utilization as opposed to measuring stores. And I think this is where the divide in our understanding came to a pause, when I assumed you were speaking to total muscle glycogen, and not liver glycogen. So, if you were talking…

And perhaps a slightly more digestible version of metabolism during starvation: https://www.patreon.com/posts/17710895 Full text: Bill Lagakos posted Glucose dynamics during prolonged fasts This is a somewhat complicated level of metabolism. Which tissues are producing what & how much, what are they burning & how much,…

Right. I think we can at least agree that glucose is readily available fuel for immediate use by whatever system needs it. Glycogen as a storage bundle of glucose, will be freely released from the liver to provide more glucose as needs are increased. During intense glycolytic activity muscle glycogen provides glucose for…

I linked the Cahill starvation study in my response for you to read and understand why I'm saying what I'm saying. Completely fasted state for days = starvation. https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/S0300-595X(76)80028-X "Muscle cell glycogen appears to function as an immediate reserve source of available glucose for…

Just as a follow up to the menses dysfunction statement, if as a woman, you've become irregular or completely stopped menstruating, the diet break is going to last as long as it needs to regulate hormones to produce a regular period again. This is hopefully obvious that it's going to be longer than 2 weeks. It may take…

I think you might have been around MFP long enough to have seen the threads in their infancy when it was a true wild west haha, but seems like nothing has changed much. At least there aren't threads making claims that peeing out white stuff is the body getting rid of fat. That thread is forever burned into memory and I…

Ketogains builds brains and brawn lol. Thanks @Sunny_Bunny_ :smiley:

I'm suggesting that circulating blood glucose is a direct measurement of circulating blood glucose. How that translates to stored muscle glycogen depletion is completely separate. Liver glycogen freely releases glycogen for blood glucose, but skeletal muscle glycogen exists only to be used by the muscle for anaerobic…

And this is actually one of the few times Fung has actually been on the mark, but also serves as an example of the broken clock metaphor. From a macro perspective, what he’s saying directly coincides with nutrient density to provide satiety, regardless of the macro composition (protein, carbs, and fiber). He’s also…

Extended fasting for fat loss doesn’t do anything positive for the body. The reason why is that any weight lost is going to be a combination of fat and muscle. There’s no way around it. And don’t believe anything Fung says that denies that. You’re not feeding your body during an extended fast. Your body requires protein to…

12-15% is a good level of bf to be when bulking. I mean you could start now, but that results in going back to a deficit later to lose expected fat gain. As for how long you need to be in a deficit, it’s also subjective but at your current level, probably 4-8 weeks before taking a diet break and assessing whether you need…

Right. Muscle glycogen never gets completely depleted and some do get used upon moderately intense exertion, and protein and fat are sufficient enough to restore muscle glycogen, you’re completely correct, but for those same reasons that they’re effectively constant as they’re replenished by gng, they exist in the muscle…

I've still bumped into the same threads you respond to lol. And welcome to the recomp club. The painstaking process of feeling like you're spinning your wheels that only becomes apparent that progress is occurring over months, as opposed to weeks. It's a little bit jarring isn't it? Completely not feeling the need to cut…

As most people tend to do. That's completely normal and you're not an outlier. Most people initially permacut and just learn to live with the suck. The larger you are, the longer you can sustain a prolonged deficit. As nihilistic as it sounds, there's going to be an eventual backlash either in the form of increased hunger,…

Yes, you can replenish glycogen in one day, but the period of not eating slowly dips into liver glycogen, and that period of not eating is sleep. Therefore, you'd have to top it off in the days succeeding day 1. Liver glycogen depletion occurs with a prolonged caloric deficit. Muscle glycogen doesn't follow that rule. It…

The reason for the 2 week diet break is for the hormone regulation and psychological reprieve as I outlined above. I mean, sure, you could grind it out longer if you can stand it, but unless you're planning to walk on stage and get judged for being a human string of beef jerky for a few days, it's not worth the struggle…

I get what you mean. I just used a hyperbolic example in place of the usual examples of Lyle, Brad, Eric, or Alan to represent the generic stereotype of a gymrat who represents specified applied knowledge in aesthetics and strength. But I wholeheartedly agree with exactly what you said. I’m not genetically gifted, so if I…

You’re welcome and thanks, it’s normal in size and shape. But has some random splotches of painless bruising discoloration. I have to put my leg modeling on hold for a while. Lol

I'd put you maybe around 18% bf (give or take a couple points in either direction), mostly in the lower abdomen area, which is the primary problem area for men. That said, you're perfectly fine to do a 2 week deficit > 2 day refeed which is pretty standard. But if you've been strict dieting for 2.5 months, then take a 2…

Hormones are dynamic within a few days as well. It's an extremely rough example and hardly accurate, but it serves its purpose in demonstrating what I mean. Let's use leptin as the primary hormone example. For whatever weight you are before dieting, let's assume it's at 100%. After a few days on a deficit, leptin starts…

Well, being single, drinking that much at home just makes me an alcoholic lol. So, most of the time I'm out. But if it's a drunken nerd night LAN party of gaming, then we are able to take nutritional countermeasures. If we're going out to a bar or club, it's a free night and whatever happens hopefully doesn't end up on the…

Technically, people on a higher carb diet are metabolically flexible, being able to switch between glucose and fatty acid oxidation. By definition, if you're able to burn fat when glucose stores are tapped, you're body is adapted to burn fat. Without metabolic flexibility we'd die. Use T1D as an example: due to lack of…

Condolences to you and the family. As for the diet break conundrum, consider the past 5 days of untracked/relaxed eating as part of your diet break. It's up to you to extend it, but from here on out track to maintenance if you do extend it, then get back to your regularly scheduled deficit. Being flexible in what life…

On that note, Jason Fung and Adam Nally are both physicians. Adam Nally is the second leading shill of EKs next to Jimmy Moore. I wouldn't qualify anyone of them to be properly versed in nutritional science and metabolism, let alone body compositioin. Waving around what degrees someone holds is basically a dick measuring…

Sure, you can get nitpicky and definitively place him in the science field as a scientist. At this point, it's not necessarily being a degreed science holder, rather the understanding of the field that's being debated. In the case for Taubes v Aragon, it was nutritional science and obesity. Simple enough. In its basic…

That would mean he's credible in the area of physics. While physics apply to energy and matter, the crossover to biochemistry and human metabolism becomes a wash since observable forces in nature are not the same as biological function. Just to clarify, when observing the potential energy stored in granite, scientists…