pcastagner Member

In that case it doesn't apply to you. Problem solved. I meant one of the other dozens of people who responded very harshly.

Yup! If you wanted to, you could basically say it seems that your tdee relative to your capacity to expend energy creates a context which modulates how you behave in response to a negative energy balance,

And yet lots of people here touted their 6 a week as proof I'm wrong.

I'm not saying everyone who disagrees here is a hater. Are you seriously saying none of them are? Not saying I'm perfect either, some I my comments are just crabby. But you know what? The people who replied positively to this thread, as few and far between as they are, and the manner in which they responded, is more than…

I'm impressed at how good your modeling is! Very intuitive and you must know quite a bit, because you worked out without me telling you that I am able to structure my days so I have complete rest. I'm an opera singer, so I'm leveraging the lifestyle that led me to obesity and weakness.

yup! instead of trying to create a deficit with exercise, I just eat less, and rest more (move less). just like the people coming out of the woodwork now that the haters who have been rushing to take me down have mostly moved on (or been reported), I noticed a really weird acceleration in fat loss from extra rest (which I…

I don't presume to know anything about you, which is why I said the word "if". As in "if" you follow the same pattern as me, chances are you have the same problem. Also "if" talk of rest days makes you angry, that's pretty suspect IMO. the lady doth protest too much though... so add a rest day man.

I'm going a little further, though I do prefer those options you mentioned in my case. There is a particular type of person - people like me - who need to be told quite emphatically to BE PATIENT and that you don't need to punish away the fat.

that's the question I asked in my OP, based on the curious case of me, a guy who DID JUST THAT! it appears you agree with me, sir, but are confused about why someone would need to be told. the answer is that some people are like me, it makes no sense, but we can help fix it with some choice reminders and shifts in emphasis.

well, not quite! your energy system model there has no limits on transfers in and out. in reality, such limits exist. You can't create complexity in a system, which requires more matter/energy, without transferring energy into that system, so only a system with infinite capacity for absorbing energy could follow the model…

your body comes back stronger than before? that's not a given, sorry. your body comes back stronger than before IF: 1)resources are available 2)it has an opportunity to repair itself fully keep pushing it, and you eventually find out you've been burning the candle at both ends (systemic inflammatory response is your…

IDK, maybe you are working optimally for your capacity. test it! add in some rest days and see what happens. if your brain is sort of refusing the very idea, you suffer from a cognitive distortion, my friend, because when you are being rational you don't feel like the sky will fall because you didn't work out today.

hey, this is an improvement! you are asking me what I meant to say, instead of deciding for me like some others have here. thanks man! hmmm... so. to clarify - my 3 days a week number was arbitrary. i guessed anyone underdoing rest is probably doing more than 3 a week. that said, and I've said it here too but it got lost,…

should have mentioned in the OP that this is not advice for someone with an eating disorder. that's an illness you need to address with medical help. Anorexia tends to go with PROLONGED steep deficits. The whole reason for doing this is to DECREASE your total days in a negative energy balance.

i hope you understand this means you are either insane or mentally ill. :) either that, or you are reading with your "reading comprehension" cap on, combined with a shared experience that leads you to know EXACTLY what I am talking about and why it needs to be said. Could you talk a bit about how you came to realize this?…

Just occurred to me, For those of us who like to think of it as thermodynamics - the net cals approach IS a very oversimplified model of the energy system, because it doesn't account for natural (and dynamic) limits on the rate at which energy/matter/complexity can be added to or taken away from the system. (This is why…

Hmmm another astute person. Apparently you are just insane, better get to a doctor or something. Because obviously I'm nuts, so if you noticed the same thing...

This is one of those things you have to try out. For me, it's easier to run a bigger deficit for fewer days. (I also use refeeds to reset my will power and hormones) Also remember, even your identity is mutable, so what's easier for you today, might not be tomorrow.

I'd also recommend losing weight slowly. So put that together with my OP. What am I saying. Well, let's say you want to lose slowly, so let's pick a number. A half pound a week. That's 2 a month, or 4 lbs per 2 months. To lose four pounds you need to forego 3500 cal x 4, so 14,000 cals. I'm saying to cut as big a deficit…

It's how I view the human condition. So yes. Also how I view myself. For instance, I'm sure there are some responses here where I assume the person is disingenuous, and it's not based in actual evidence. Cognitive distortion, my dear.

As evidence of what? My POINT is about ignoring advice I got OVER AND OVER AGAIN, not about determining if that advice is right (go take down McDonald and Berkhan if you really can demolish it). Most of these "takedowns" want to focus on establishing if the advice is "right". Empirically. Fine! Good topic! But this is…

Sort of? With dynamic capacity though. Sort of a Dr. Seuss gas tank.

If you can't be bothered to scroll thorough and find them in this thread, you really won't get me interested by giving me a task to do. Go ahead and move on, I'm interested in the people who need to hear this. People like me. You are obviously good to go, perfect, and an exceptional individual not as prone to cognitive…

It's not a theory. Is it half formed? Maybe. But since it's not a theory, but rather based on asking why I refused to take such oft repeated advice from the very experts I follow closest, and asking if anyone else out there might fit this pattern too, The evidence behind the concept of rest as the primary means whereby…

I dropped over 50 in less than a year, did two bulking and cutting phases from there, and also made huge gains in strength, speed and endurance. It's not evidence for or against the points in my OP, which is why I don't bring it up, and why you shouldn't either. It IS evidence that what I have to say comes from a context…

No, you don't learn by admitting you are wrong, exclusively, nor does admitting one is wrong necessarily help, unless one IS wrong. Like, for instance, my OP is seriously flawed in construction, which has been pointed out quite astutely, and I have no problem agreeing with that conclusion. Sara and some others made great…

Yeah, sorry for the snub. What can I say, lots of negative replies and I answered the most compelling ones. I'm sorry your super special reply didn't get the super special attention it deserved. Maybe it has to do with the fact that my point is conceptual/rational, and you want to play an empirical game? I'm not a…

Actually I responded mostly to the negative comments, very little to the ones who agree. And I count more than one ;). One helpful person even helped me craft a better statement. Thanks for playing the "I want to shift the topic away from anything substantive"! Your emotions and how important they are have been duly noted.

Thanks! Right back at you.

Huh? Re-reading my OP, it seems I LITERALLY did not assume someone hitting a plateau is working more than 3 times a day, which explains why I phrase it AS A QUESTION. WITH A QUESTION MARK AT THE END. I'll go further and say that for some people, 3 times might be TOO MUCH if the GOAL is to PROGRESS AS EFFICIENTLY AS…