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I do think we are going to have to stop relying on symptoms. They've mentioned on TWIV that it seems clear vaccinated people are only contagious for a short time, if at all. They even think the initial 2 week quarantine for unvaxxed positive tests is probably more than necessary. But better access to cheaper tests would…

I apologize, I didn't get to click thru to read the article yet, but I don't think the messaging will be that difficult because I don't think this flip is going to just happen one day. As long as a large enough percentage of the world pop is unvaxxed, we will have rolling spikes of new variants that may challenge the…

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.10.21263385v2 J&J released study data, showing around 80% effectiveness against moderate disease and against hospitalization. Study cohort was almost 400,000 people and was done over this summer so it includes Delta. They also released data reporting a small lab study that…

Not sure if this link will work or not, but here's to trying: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.13.21262182v2 This is why over emphasizing preprints is dangerous. This Canadian study that claimed a 1 in 1000 rate of myocarditis from mRNA vaccines has been latched onto by anti vaxx propaganda. It was just…

So I realized I had only listened to the first part of the interview with Dr Shane Crotty and finally listened to the rest. A few more interesting bits: He made a distinction that I hadn't fully understood yet but is prob obvious to someone in this field. This goes back to the point that waning antibodies is perfectly…

Ask others have said, you're struggling because that's a pretty high protein goal. There's nothing wrong with it, but if youre preferred style of eating won't allow you to get that much, I wouldn't worry about it. How many grams are you typically getting?

One of the reasons I don't count carbs is because I think fiber is super important and it is challenging to get the recommended amount of fiber if you're limiting carbs. I'm sure it's not impossible, but I wouldn't be able to. The days I do well on fiber usually include lots of beans and whole grains. Sometimes you need to…

Agreed, I'm not really sure what the point of this whole discussion/argument is. Most of the folks who are anti vaxx or hesitant have access to a ton of info. There is definitely a segment of the poor/working poor in the US who do not have reliable internet access and, due to no health insurance, don't have a relationship…

I'm a little behind on my TWIV listening, but the last epi I listened to was an interview with Dr Shane Crotty, a virologist from the La Jolla Institute of Immunology. Lots of interesting conversation in this one. What stood out to me is he said he sees a lot of variability in natural immunity markers. In other words, some…

These people didn't all die in September, but they were all reported on the same blog in September. The blog is a group of lawyers who seem to say that all the covid vaccines, even though they are different types of vaccines, are deadly, and are advertising their services to people looking to file lawsuits. I have no doubt…

No, the doctor determines what caused the patient to die and that's listed as the cause of death. The numbers are generally generated from the death certificate in the US. There are a lot of conspiracy theories about the death count, and most of them make no sense if you understand how the process has always worked. I…

Considering the hearing the FDA had this week, it looks like they will only be recommending boosters for people over 65, or in some other high risk categories. I think part of the confusion is that in wealthy countries, it at least seems like the only people who aren't vaxxed have chosen not to, and it's easy to forget…

The TWIV folks said on a recent episode that they do believe at some point everyone will have gotten covid, and just like with the flu, an unfortunate number of high risk people will die from it every year. The key is to get a much larger percentage of the population vaxxed, so that even the people spreading it will be…

This is one of the major points media reports of studies and papers are missing. No one is running around with antibodies to all the vaccines and viruses they've ever been exposed to. It is perfectly normal for antibody presence to wain.the key is that your body now knows how to quickly produce more the next time the virus…

When I lived in NY, I had never eaten okra or even seen fresh okra in the supermarket. One day I saw a bag of frozen sliced okra and decided to give it a try. Not knowing what to do with it, I just put some in a bowl and microwaved it. :disappointed: What came out was a bowl of rubber green slices in a puddle of snot. I…

Aaaah, thanks for the clarification.

From what ive been reading on the CDC website, many childhood vaccine viruses first were endemic, but vaccinated people did not get sick, and so they were eventually eliminated once there were simply not enough hosts without a strong enough immune response to harbor and shed the virus enough for the virus to survive.…

Interestingly, it seems at least in my limited exposure to the field, that many of the specialists currently all in on covid-19 were previously focused on HIV. Not sure if their is something the two viruses have in common or just the sudden global need for rapid answers. Now that I think about it, I may have heard that the…

I "think" the issue is that the declining efficacy is anecdotal. Public health officials have to run with anecdotal because they don't have the luxury of waiting for verified data. But the declining efficacy has to be caused by something, and the point of a vaccine is antibodies, and I guess the press at least has linked…

So in the latest TWIV they interviewed Paul Bieniasz and Theodora Hatziiouannou, virologists who are renowned for working on HIV but obviously right now are focused on covid. This one was really fascinating and I'll probably listen to it again because it was more conversational and I def missed some stuff. Anyway... They…

Yep, not putting restrictions on businesses doesn't really help the economy, between people choosing on their own to minimize their risk and employees getting sick, leading to work stoppages, and at least some of them ending up dead or with chronic health conditions that cause more permanent employee shortages. I'm pretty…

Agreed. I think it's really easy to forget in this situation that all anyone is getting right now (including the CDC) is unreviewed data reports and pre-print papers. But public health officials can't wait on the science to be reviewed and confirmed, they have to look at what they have and do their best, and probably err…

That's a good point. Maybe it's the way it's asked, or just that uninsured people are already jumpy about getting stuck with a bill and even an innocent question scares them away and starts the rumor mill up!

Remember that each report that comes out is not yet peer reviewed like we normally expect them to be. While the numbers coming out of Israel suggest a drop off, data coming from other countries is very different. The difficulty for public health officials is they know the data can be misleading but they can't wait til it's…

Yep. No matter how careful I am picking topics when I visit my parents, there is nothing that can't be tied into the conspiracy. And they will ask me questions about something they heard about the virus, and they seem to be listening and agreeing with me. And then one of them will go, "it's hard for people to trust what…

This is a good point, I'd guess lots of modern children live much more sanitized lives than even 20 or 30 yrs ago. Maybe they're already starting at a deficit.

That's interesting. The TWIV virologists said that we don't realize how many bugs we come in contact with, even just in our homes, and unless you've been in a hermetically sealed bubble, the typical pandemic stay-at-home would not make an appreciable difference to your immune system. But perhaps they were talking about…

To get that 25%, are you assuming the 459 people who tested positive were the only people at the event? If 5000 people were there, and let's say 90% of them were vaccinated, that's 4500 vaccinated people. I'm gonna round numbers, so say 350 (rounding up 75% of 450 total infected) of those vaxxed people were infected.…

The media focused on the case because it was dramatic and easy to make it sound scary. The CDC focused on it because it was an outlier and they wanted to understand it. The report says that 69% of the folks who tested positive were vaxxed. It says nothing about how many vaxxed (or unvaxxed) people tested negative. There…

But you're using the whole state's percentage and assuming it's the rate for this one town's event and drawing a very specific conclusion. That's not how percentages or statistics work. Which is probably why no public health officials or researchers (including the CDC report) came to the conclusion you did. They found it…