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Wow! solid retort...............

Where is that listed in this study. that is not what is in this abstract or conclusion???

I got the eye on the prize. And I am more than willing to make some sacrifices to be stronger, leaner, and healthier than stuff my pie hole with Hersey kisses. Dude, its just food, it aint all that important. I can get by on 900 calories in the short term. I won't be wasting away anytime soon. despite the hysteria you read…

Weight loss without losing muscle mass in pre-obese and obese subjects induced by a high-soy-protein diet. CONCLUSIONS: Our data suggest that a high-soy-protein and low-fat diet can improve the body composition in overweight and obese people, losing fat but preserving muscle mass. Where is the massive LBM loss of the…

No. Here's a couple of the points: 1- That metabolic damage/slowdown and aggressive deficit calorie reduction do not necessarily go hand in hand. 2- If you want to lose lots of weight quick;y.- Eat less, not more. Controversial, I know......

Just got back from a quick 200 calorie burn on the Tmill. That was my second of the day. Oh and today was an off day for me. This completed hour 26 of my fast. I am going to take the fast longer and break it for lunch tomorrow. That will give my a nice 40 hour fast. I'll do 3 Weight training days with 400 calorie cardio…

No, but I know more than you. That point is quite evident. And does every post have to be explained to you in detail? Perhaps if you were paying attention and following along the points, the discussion would not be continually going over your head. The BB pictures go along with the weight versus LBM discussion that you…

Balancing Weight Loss versus LBM. This is a problem NOBODY here has....................

Well, there needs to be at least one person on this forum who aint drinking the Koolaid and gives a different perspective. People have got to stop overestimating their RMR, BMR, TDEE and activity levels. Its a cluster bleep of people looking at every excuse to eat more and more and more. And an endless line of enablers who…

I don't see anything in the article that addresses my point? I was discounting the notion that people with high levels of BF% will somehow burn significant amounts of muscle tissue as opposed to fat when they significantly restrict calories and are in a deficit. They will always tend to burn fat before muscle. Do you want…

The "experts" were those of that era that I mentioned. Mainly in the diet and fitness era of those times. I have no idea what they based their "conventional wisdom" or psedo science on. I just knew it was bull sheet. I know I did not listen to it and looked toward Zane, Haney, and Yates for strength training and…

No they are not equal as they all have vary degrees of intensity, length, and time. They are estimates, and usually poor ones at that. Its like estimating at calories without looking at the nutritional labels of the actual products that you actually use. I don't give myself a factor for "daily life activities". Thats a BS…

Nope!

Got a box of the brownie bars.

Bought a case of the Nature Valley Protein Peanut Butter Dark Chocolate bar at Costco. Less than fiddy cents (.50) a bar. They also had some low cal ice cream sammiches....

After I hit a weight goal, instead of celebrating by eating I do a 36 hour fast to take off more weight. Of course, almost everyone who posts in my topic thinks I am "doing it all wrong" and gives me crap for fasting. Ah, the bitterness around here.....

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Different context i would imagine.

I'll post a few articles on this muscle loss issue. - I started with weights in 1981. That was when I was told by the "experts" that I would get "muscle bound" and "unflexible". The exact opposite happened. - I did weights in the 1990s when the "experts" said that you had to do cardio and not weights to lose weight. Weight…

I just threw up in my mouth.................

Thank you. I did not actually think that this was ground breaking new. Its is fairly well known by almost anyone who engages in serious weight training or has ever picked up a copy of Flex or Muscular Development. But I will cite some articles for the naysayers and then they can ignore it and crack some one liners while…

If I gave you articles and studies on it, would it matter??? If it would, I would certainly discuss the matter with my trainer and give you the feedback, and science on it. But if your mind is closed to the idea, then it would be pointless. Part of the problem with this site, is that there is a lot of "group think" that…

Still talking out of your backside....

No. Here is the thing about losing LBM, that he explained to me. Yes, if you are Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman, or Phil Heath, you have to worry about balancing weight loss versus LBM when you are cutting for Mr Olympia. But guess what? I aint them. I and 99% of the people on this site are not elite athletes with a 3-10%…

I have found that in the past when I do a fast, it initiates faster weight loss and seems to eliminate plateaus.

Right back at you. And keep bringing your insights to things....

No. The Body builder does not want an immediate and drastic caloric increase. He wants to reset them gradually each week. He calls it a "reverse diet". I am alternating 1300/1700 right now. Probably 1400/1800 per day next week. That still gives me a good deficit where I can hit my goal weight fairly fast and maybe set a…

I am actually doing it right. I would be interested in hearing what is "wrong"?

Huh? My chest, biceps, and back are up. My waist is down. Body flab is down, weight is down, and strength is up. Why would you think muscle would go down. I still have plenty of fat stores to burn before I would start burning muscle........

To clarify. I am taking my calories down THIS WEEK. Not forever. THIS WEEK. And then I will bring them up gradually again NEXT WEEK. You get it now????