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wow. great info Gemi

good to know. I'll have to check that one out, I like having good calcs to recommend....

yes it takes me days of chugging water to get rid of the effects from "extra" water being held....ugh!

THAT is what it's all about :drinker: ~Kiki

Not necessarily. How long are you working out on those days? Most people calculate using just their current weight, since not everyone knows their bodyfat%. Try using this calculator to help you: http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ Just eat 1800 each day, no need to eat back exercise cals, as they are already…

Yes, the mental battle is so tough. But you can do this!!! Welcome to the group!! :flowerforyou: ~Kiki

LOL. It really doesn't have to be that hard, which is why we've always tried to simplify things as much as possible. Because as you can see, it gets confusing when trying to explain something to a wide variety of people, in a way that everyone understands. When things get too technical/hard to understand, then it just…

From the original TDEE & BMR sticky post: *********A FINAL WORD ON EATING BACK TDEE CAL'S TO HOPEFULLY CLEAR UP CONFUSION******** If TDEE is figured out correctly, then exercise cals don't *have* to be eaten back because, technically, TDEE figures them in. The underlying factor here, is that most people underestimate their…

LOVE IT, Jen! You are such an Eat More role model, girl! I'm loving witnessing all the changes you, Ben, & Jerry are going through. =p

Recall, that he was talking about those that are using the #s that MFP has set up, and eating back cals. He was not talking about EM2WLs philosophies, but rather, those that only use "part" of the philosophy, for example: setting cals goal to TDEE -15%, PLUS eating back exercise cals. Thus mixing the MFP concept of "eating…

Bodybuilding.com has a nice database of exercise plans

Workouts are very personal. You should at least like them (for the most part, lol). I for one, hate cardio, but still do enough to keep the blood flowing, lol. But strength training/heavy liftin is my passion, & the changes that it gives me are unmistakeable. I do enjoy a good Bootcamp, now and again, but would consider it…

I'll be waiting :bigsmile:

You shouldn't be "netting" your TDEE -15%, you should *just* eat that amount. It already includes workout cals. So nothing should be added. And you really should zero in on one TDEE # and just eat as close to that amount, as possible. Too much bouncing around when you first up cals is not necessary...

You're not doing anything "wrong" be sure to check measurements/body fat % for progress, not just the scale. :wink: Have you seen this? http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/580019-the-scale-is-a-lying-torture-device-i-m-proof Because you said that your plateau started over a year before, I would doubt that it's your…

That's what I was trying to say, the situations that I'm giving ARE the point. That is what is preached in this group. I'm only talking to/advising people who are being told to follow the rest of EM2WL practices. Because we say NOT to eat back cals, we have to put in the "netting BMR" stipulation, for the person to get the…

Again, you're missing a major point...we are not talking about people who use MFPs calculations. We are talking about people who do the calculations THEMSELVES. So if they calculate themselves using "sedentary" then log a bunch of exercise and ONLY eat the TDEE -15% that they calculated, they would be drastically…

I'm not sure why it drives you nuts, lol. It's really not that serious. :huh: I think if you actually detach (and de-stress, lol) regarding the situation, you'll notice that everyone is saying the same thing. The only thing that is causing the commotion, is that you have a mathematical way of looking at things and some…

:blushing: Aww, you're so sweet....Thank you. :blushing:

When you go to this page: http://www.youtube.com/user/EatMore2WeighLess?feature=mhee There should be a "subscribe" button right next to the name "EatMore2WeighLess" at the top. If you don't see it, you may need to be logged in to YouTube. :wink:

I use this calculator which assigns activity levels based on the total amount of time you workout per week. http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ ~Kiki

That's really the point of it. If TDEE is figured correctly, "netting BMR" becomes a non-issue. I never pay attention to my net cals, because I know that my TDEE is figured correctly, & I'm not going crazy w/ridiculous burns, thus it wouldn't happen. But that doesn't mean that I'm not gonna tell someone else just starting…

LOL!!! Cause you KNOW that's what I'd say, Gemi! Love me some food. :tongue:

Typically, I wouldn't recommend changing up the cals too much at the beginning, especially if it's just like a higher day than usual here or there, but if that is going to be your actual activity level for the next few *months*, then, yes, I'd recalculate w/your current activity level, and up the cals accordingly. ~Kiki

I'm 5'2", currently 125lbs and eating around 1900 (maintenance is around 2100)... I'm not really too concerned w/my scale weight, I can't imagine that I'd drop below 118, which is where I started my last "bulk" phase. I'm currently cutting, now, but already back in my size 2s, so idk how long I'll continue to cut.....…

yes that would be your maintenance, but mfp doesn't include workout cals, so that's why the number given is lower. You can reset your account to the actual number that you're shooting for (1873), but don't eat back the exercise cals. ~Kiki :)

In a nutshell...if you still have weight to lose, and you are eating much less than your body requires, then it's probably for you :wink: So I'd take a minute and calculate your TDEE, and if it looks like you're way under your cals (even just being under what your maintenance cals *should* be) .......then, eat up!…

To lose weight, yes, you'd eat in deficit....But, in order to build lean mass you would take the cals up to maintenance, or just slightly above. A caloric surplus is preferred for building muscle... Kiki

It depends on how long you were at the lower cal levels. Some of us ate low for so long that a full metabolism reset was required, which is what you said about eating at maintenance first. That is what I did, because my body needed a complete reset/refeed from the abuse that I'd given it. I took probably longer than most…

I'm cutting right now, and I can promise you.....it ain't on 1200-1300 cals, :tongue: lol. But Lucia's right. To bulk, you'd be eating ABOVE maintenance, as a surplus is needed. I bulked over the winter, around 12-14 wks, at about 2300+ cals & now I'm cutting @1900. My maintenance is around 2100. Just to give you an idea.…