pennyllayne

As far as I can see, you have contributed nothing to this thread apart from making pointless attacks and arguing silly points. At least I'm actually trying to contribute something.

I don't know if this was in reply to me. If it was, I suppose I would find it hard because I don't get on with the higher protein vegetarian options ;). It would be too much carbohydrate for me too. I don't think protein needs to be that high at all really. The RDA is 0.8g per kg of bodyweight, so as long as you are…

Well thank you for educating me, I didn't know that. I suppose I was thinking in the case of a person in good health they don't usually retain that much water for that amount of time. I'm surprised they didn't test her kidney and liver function.

Well said.

Oh well I obviously can't say anything without someone picking every single word apart. I stand by saying the guy was overeating, not bingeing. He was going over his caloric needs but he wasn't bingeing.

I commented because I was trying to address the person you quoted who I believe was taking what I had said about cooking to an extreme. I apologise for using your quote to do it through. If you wish to avoid me, simply do so. I'm not here to argue.

Where was I wrong but couldn't admit I was wrong? I've tried to be as accurate as possible - not to ne "pretentious" but because this is actually my line of work and I care about it. I do not want to be spouting misinformation and I don't think I have. But please point out anything I may have got wrong and I'll be prepared…

Of course there's nothing wrong with cooking your veggies. Many of them can be harmful eaten raw. But it's not a simple "always eat raw" or "always cook" situation. You have to pay attention to cooking methods as well.

There's very little point in any way of eating if you don't like it. Of course you can get enough protein from a vegetarian diet and if you are determined to eat that way then it may take some planning but it can be done of course. Anyone who does any way of eating just because there's a weight loss claim is not going to…

No, you somehow think that nutrients refers to either or and it doesn't. Nutrients refers to all nutrients, micro AND macro. So if something is nutrient dense, then it is dense in many nutrients, not just macro and not just micro. It's a silly point to argue. A food does not become unhealthy because some person has decided…

Oh because you're such a nice agreeable person :D

Oh thank you :). I wonder if your face is as nice as your physique...

Yes, you can have 10 binges a day if you want to. But eating a large meal is not a binge, it is overeating.

When I was referring to bingeing I wasn't talking in the context of an eating disorder, that is all I meant.

Alpha linoleic acid is not the same as linoleic acid. Linoleic acid is an omega 6 fatty acid, ALA is an omega 3 fatty acid. So sunflower oil is high in omega 6, not omega 3. Please check your facts before you quote things that prove my point :)

I was being facetious. But never mind, I'm sure you like arguing anyway.

Because that doesn't sound like a brief excessive indulgence to me, that is overeating.

I don't think I said that. I said that foods become less health giving (ie contain less nutrients) when overcooked with other unhealthy things added to it.

I'm sorry but you don't seem to understand the term "nutrient DENSE". That means it is a dense source of nutrients - not just protein, fat and carbs. A range of nutrients, macro and micro. Ice cream might have macronutrients, but very few micronutrients so it is not nutrient dense. It is also processed and contains many…

Overeating can take place over long periods of time and can mean going over calorie needs by any amount. Binges are short bursts of excessive eating that are far above your calorie needs. It has nothing to do with an eating disorder, I mentioned it first when I said people don't binge on healthy food. I stand by that.

Yes, what does it have to do with that. I don't think I was talking about changes in body composition.

Of course. But I'd always advise people to look at making steady lifestyle changes and working on portion size. But in the beginning, lower your calories and you'll be on your way. But if you hit some bumps in the road or things are getting tough you want to take a look at what you're eating and also if you care enough…

Alright, well as I said, things get confused in text. You quoted me and I assumed you were suggesting that you would binge on healthy foods. I obviously got that wrong. Apologies.

No, I'm not confusing calorie dense with healthy. Processed vegetable oils are not healthy. Not because of the calories, but because they are high in omega 6 fats which promote inflammation in the body and are damaged at high heats causing oxidative damage in the body. And I already said that more calories are not what…

I didn't decide on what the word binge means. I used it in a sentence, if you don't understand the meaning then perhaps you need to consult a dictionary before responding.

Good. Raw potatoes contain high amounts of resistant starch. It's very good for you ;)

I was giving an example...is that allowed? Many vegetables contain vitamin C too - it is ONE example of ONE nutrient that is destroyed in cooking. Jeez. And no, not everyone does eat a lot of fruit.

As you just pointed out I said "You gonna binge on that all day long and eat thousands upon thousands of calories?" I didn't say there must be thousands of calories in there and it will take you all day to eat. I asked it under the premise that you would be eating that food throughout the day and bingeing on it, not that…

Yeah I don't think you've refuted what I said or that science doesn't align with what I've said. I gave a very vague example of a way in which one nutrient is destroyed while another is activated. I said earlier that cooking method and overcooking contribute, so what's your point exactly?

Maybe it's something YOU don't already know, but I was asked to provide a study showing that not all food has the same effect and I did.