Brunner26_2

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  • I think he understands your point, he just disagrees with it. The question seems, to me, to be "Why believe a date other than what the catholic church believes?" I'm inclined to agree that any research you did still doesn't put you in a position to know better than the church what is the correct interpretation. That…
  • Lol, doorki, about the calculus comment. Aren't you the one with a degree in religion?
  • Of course we respect your honest position! :smile: Though, it does seem a little odd that you're commenting in a debate group if you don't want to get into a debate.
  • What you just described is called Pascal's wager, and there are many problems with it. The biggest, to me, being that if you decide to believe just because you want to avoid hell, then you don't really believe at all. You can go through the motions, say you believe, and even lead a moral life, but you'd be lying to the…
  • I see a huge difference between imposing rules based on religion run a daycare, private school, or even a restaurant (I'm looking at you, Chik-fil-A!!) than if you're running a hospital or a pharmacy. Public health trumps religious freedom, always. Let's look at it this way. You've been in a terrible car accident. You're…
  • I disagree with this statement. It's not atheists pushing their beliefs as much as it is them defending themselves against others' beliefs. The constitution protects us from religion in public schools. Private places of employment are another story. However, in the case of religious hospitals, I think public health should…
  • I disagree with the idea that any of us came in with biases. We've all looked at the data and reached different conclusions, but some or all of us came to the wrong conclusion.
  • Wineplease, I really didn't mean to sound like I was attacking you specifically. I'm also really glad that you're still here discussing this with us. I think it's great. I'm sure to lurkers it seems that we're ganging up on you! It's just, the way I see it, when one starts talking about which interpretations and traditions…
  • Eventually.... when the prices drop. I'll get a Wii U for sure.
  • I posted pics in the body fat estimation thread http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/826435-bodyfat-estimation-thread?page=13#posts-15006290
  • This is for my other thread requesting info about whether to continue cutting or to bulk. Disclaimer: I'm holding a lot of water because I had a lot of sodium. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/980845-requesting-opinions-on-how-to-move-forward Relaxed Relaxed Flexed
  • But isn't that what the catholic church teaches?
  • I wasn't trying to be unfair. It's just now we're getting into the whole "my religion is the one true relgion" area. Follow these rules, otherwise eternal hell fire.
  • Translation: The one you picked.
  • Wow, Acg. Impressive work on the gnocchi. They look professional.
  • Some cheddar cheese would be good on that.
  • Yes, but which tradition? The bible has not been read the same way throughout the millennia. Interpretations have changed over the centuries, even within traditions (the catholic church of today is not the same as the catholic church of 1500 years ago). Numerous branches have spun off, each thinking they have it right.…
  • I file them down with a nail file over my spaghetti.
  • Let's assume that's all true. How is the general public, as laypeople with regards to ancient historical styles of writing and speaking, who have been encouraged to read the bible and think and decide for ourselves, supposed to know that? God isn't exactly making it easy for us.
  • This seems to contradict your stance on the bible as eyewitness accounts by comparing Jesus' words in the bible to other apocalyptic literature (fiction). Why make that comparison? If Matthew is supposed to be true, and Jesus said it, then it should be true. This just seems like backwards thinking, like "Jesus said he'd…
  • Just addressing point 3, I would argue that religion is neither sufficient nor necessary to resolve ethical issues.
  • Wineplease, I really want you to address my previous question about if your interpretations are the correct ones and other Christians are wrong. You clearly studied the bible and other religions for a long time before you came to your conclusions. Is that what you think god intended? Is it supposed to take years (decades?)…
  • Does that mean that those other christians are wrong and you're right?
  • To add to what m_a_b said, a common christian interpretation is that Jesus said that the old testament is the word of god and its laws should be upheld. Do you think that he meant that?
  • It makes sense in a way. I understand what you mean, I just don't see how your interpretation is more valid than anyone else's. Some people take it all literally. Some people only parts. Some people see the entire thing as inspirational and not to be taken literally. Anyone can pick and choose any parts of it that they…
  • Winey, I have a genuine question about your beliefs. I know that you accept the story of Jesus' resurrection as truth, but what other parts of the bible? Just the new testament? Just the parts about Jesus? You mentioned earlier in the discussion that you have to be able to differentiate which parts are just stories and…
  • I don't have any proof about anything, but to me it seems more illogical to believe that anything supernatural happened. Why should I be expected to believe that magic happened when I've never witnessed anything like that myself? Christianity's magic isn't any more believable than any other religion's. What proof do you…
  • This pretty much sums up my thoughts on it as well. I can also completely understand the appeal of an all-loving being who gives your life a purpose. I admit that the idea that we all came from nothing, with essentially purposeless lives besides the purpose that we give them ourselves, and will die and be gone forever,…
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