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Need to see data to support that claim. And if that's the case, then why does almost every long-term study done on dieting show that low carb is not inherently better to low fat? I'll make a big post with a bunch of peer-reviewed research later. Even research done on obese participants showing that long-term weight loss is…
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Which would qualify as a minority, as I stated. Not a "tiny" minority, nor 10%. I just said minority :X
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So is it one giant global conspiracy that all governments are in on?
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Obese, sedentary women - what bearing does that have on non-obese women, or men of all types, or people who are active? Also protein was not controlled in this study, which is a major design flaw.
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Did I say 10%? Overweight =/= insulin resistant.
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This post is relevant to people who are insulin resistant, which is a minority of the general population.
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We're not talking about 129 pound loss; we're talking about a study that records the weight fluctuations over the course of 3-6 months. 1g carb = 3-5g WATER. There is IMMENSE water weight to be lost when switching from a high/moderate carb diet to a low carb diet. Are you actually going to deny that?…
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@KavemanKarg No way I can respond to that novel of a post. Condense it, summarize some central points of contention, or it will sit without response from me. Sum it up in a paragraph or two, and just get to the point quick and I'll respond.
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Questions: 1) What happens to insulin sensitivity as you lose weight regardless of macronutrient composition? 2) When does your body decide to store CHO as lipids? 3) What do you make of this graphic: http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lipolysis-Lipogenesis1.png
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I JUST said I did not see it. Your first study isn't a study - it's a review. Meaningless. Post the RCTs if you want responses. Second study did NOT keep protein consistent. The low carb group ate 10% more protein at 3 months out, and 5% more at 6 months out. This study was not isocaloric in its energy distribution. Also…
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I did not see it - is it in this thread or another one? I'm willing to bet a whole lot of money I've already seen it before, but I'd be glad to look at it again.
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Nope. Contrary to what people will tell you: carbs do not make you fat. Excess calories do.
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That's just it. No one, not a single person, has brought forth a valid claim. Whenever I refute it, they lash out. People have brought up insulin more than anything, and I've refuted that without anyone bringing up a counter argument. And not a SINGLE study has been posted showing the heightened efficacy of a low carb…
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I guess you can't catch sarcasm. I am telling you that you are delusional if you believe drinking 20,000 calories of olive oil will not result in unbelievable fat gain. Like, CRAZY delusional. Are you familiar with Lyle? Like, the fact that HE is the one who made the ketogenic what it is today as far as its application to…
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I have seen the studies, and there are no benefits that I have come across. Feel free to present those studies, though, and I'll take a look at them.
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Mind=blown. So you're telling me I will gain more fat by eating 10 calories over maintenance with a pure carb diet than eating 20,000 calories over maintenance with a diet purely composed of olive oil? Is that seriously what you're trying to tell me? Google: gluconeogenesis.
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Even the studies done in Japan, Saudi Arabia, European countries, etc.? That's not a rational argument to defy the dozens of studies performed that show the benefits of grain.
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Read it more carefully: Your question is too broad. If you do not eat carbs, then your body will use lipids and amino acids for energy. But if you choose to fixate on that fact alone, then you are CONVENIENTLY IGNORING the fact that you are GAINING more fat. I'll illustrate: Your maintenance is 2,500 calories. Let's say…
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You're going to feel sooooo awkwaaaaard when I tell you I'm vegetarian. I'm not picking on you or people who do low carb; I am clearing up the misconception that it has a metabolic edge. Are you going to even try to refute anything I've said, or just keep telling me that I am annoying people and suggest I "pick on other…
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At whose fault? Sorry you can't argue the facts. You keep spouting insulin without even understanding the most basic concepts of carbohydrate digestion within the human body. Carbs are stored as glycogen. They are stored as fat when glycogen capacity is exceeded, estimated to be 700-900g for the average person. Sometimes…
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How come lots of RCTs performed in humans show the benefits of grains, though?
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Everyone - before responding further, PLEASE read the following: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-we-get-fat.html If you have any contentions with that article, which should take 5 minutes to read, bring it up here. I'd love to hear it.
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Fat gain CAN AND DOES OCCUR EVEN WHEN INSULIN IS NOT BEING SECRETED. If you think insulin is THE ONLY means in which our body gains and stores fat, then you are seriously mistaken. This line of thinking would tell you that eating 20,000 calories of pure olive oil would not result in fat gain. Does that sound reasonable to…
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Ugh. Hypocaloric diets = NET fat metabolism. Eating meals with dietary fat = TEMPORARY fat gain. I am saying you gain more fat from all the instances of eating dietary fat adding up throughout the day - each of these instances = fat gain. But in the presence of a hypocaloric diet, you will see a NET loss in fat. Don't miss…
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Missing half the picture. When you reduce carbs, keep protein consistent, and subsequently increase fat - what do you think all that fat is getting stored as? Dietary fat is immediately stored as fat. The catch to a low carb diet which DOES result in a higher fat burn is this: you also GAIN more fat due to increased…
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Hypocaloric diets increase fat burning. The difference between a high carb diet and low carb diet (assuming protein intake is consistent) does not pan out long term. That is, low carb diets see more immediate weight loss due to water loss (remember 1g stored carbs holds 3-5g water). After 3-6+ months, all studies show the…
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Why don't carbs have good nutritional value? They power my workouts.
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Yeah, those isocaloric diets where protein intake is consistent along with activity levels? Oh, and done on humans? Major design flaws there! Stick to your research done on rats or done in diets that DON'T CONTROL FOR CALORIES.
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I'm not too up to date on how the symptoms of type I differ from type II (I dated a girl with type I, and my cousin has it - I just know type I is genetic and type II is environmental), but high carb doesn't necessarily = weight gain in type I assuming your insulin regimen is solid. How does this differ in type II? And why…
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Please respond.