Season 5 - Episode 2 - "Strangers" - 10/19/14

AnaNotBanana

This thread serves as a place to discuss speculation, and then reaction to the 10/19/14 episode.


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Booksandbeaches

Bob-b-q! Or is it leg-kebob?

I thought the reason Bob was crying by that tree just before he was taken was because he was bitten when he was underwater with the Walker. He didn't want to tell Sasha just yet. I wonder what eating a Walker does, if anything.

It's funny that Rick tells his son not to tell his guard down, but I felt like the group let its guard down.

What do you think is going on with the priest? It looks like he locked himself in and kept away people. And how is he connected to the group that has a cross on the back of their cars?

ELMunque

I thought the same thing about Bob, I thought he was going outside to off hiself so that nobody else would have to do it. The hunters.... yay.... btw.... might keep him alive to keep the meat fresh, so maybe bob still has a chance, if he wasn't bitten? But they couldn't have been that hungry, they are only on their second night away from terminus right? So now they are out for revenge. This season is going to be good. I think Father Gabriel knows about beth and where they are keeping her, and somehow alerted they guys that have her when he went out with rick and co. And Daryl and Carol saw them trying to get away. Father Gabriel is trying to replace the girl in the picture he was looking at maybe?

ETA: I was just informed it has been weeks not days since the fall of terminus. I missed the talking dead last night, but apparently they said it's been at least that long.

Tiernan1212

Yeah, that ending was horrifically awesome!

I agree, I think Bob got bit during the fight with the water-walker which is why he was outside by himself. They made it a point to show how happy he and Sasha were, and that he was always coming up with positives to her negatives. I think they'll keep him alive for a while for "fresh" meat. Wonder of he'll turn walker and take out a few of the Hunters? For me, Bob is one of the characters I'm not overly upset about losing.

Father Gabriel is definitely hiding something, but I think the photo he was looking at was a photo of the walker with the glasses at the food shelter. And how has he been able to stay/survive in the church undetected for so long? I know in a ZA, I would definitley think of a chuch as a safe place to hide out or find other survivors. Not sure if he's in cahoots with whoever has Beth, but glad Carol and Daryl are after them.

And I still need to watch Talking Dead. I started TWD late last night so I could skip commercials lol, so I had to get to bed.

SMarie10

I about fell out of my chair during the last scene with poor old Bob getting eaten. Unlike one-legged Hershal, I don't think the outlook is very rosy for Bob. To bad, I kink of liked the chemistry between Sasha and he. I'm glad Rick isn't taken in by Fr. Gabriel. Hard to believe he's been hold-up for two years without any contact from people in need.

It kind of bugged me that they were in that putrid water, and next you see them dry and apparently not smelly pushing the food back to the church? Same with Carol after she took down terminus, how did she look so clean after smearing mud all over her face without any water?

Looking forward to Beth's reappearance, and maybe a rescue by Darryl

ELMunque

Tiernan1212 wrote: »

Yeah, that ending was horrifically awesome!

Father Gabriel is definitely hiding something, but I think the photo he was looking at was a photo of the walker with the glasses at the food shelter. And how has he been able to stay/survive in the church undetected for so long? I know in a ZA, I would definitley think of a chuch as a safe place to hide out or find other survivors. Not sure if he's in cahoots with whoever has Beth, but glad Carol and Daryl are after them.

I thinkthat Father Gabriel locked his congregation out of the church to fend for themselves so that he could have the food all to himself. There were the knife marks that carl found and the "you'll burn in hell for this" that some one carved into the side of the church. I agree that the walker with the glasses was the same as the girl in the pic, just don't know his relation to her. I suppose there good be no relation to the people that has beth, and everything has been coincidental to throw us off...

AnaNotBanana

So much to talk about last night's episode!! First of all I have to give credit to Tara for telling Maggie that she was with the Governor's group. She could have easily gone on without ever telling her but she wanted to be open and honest.

It was so weird to see Michonne without her katana. I know she said she doesn't miss it but it just doesn't seem like Michonne when she a gun instead.

I like the changing dynamic between Carl and Rick. First Rick is trying to get Carl to be peaceful and play farmer and all Carl wants to do is be a little bad *kitten*. Then Rick sees the world in a different way and he tells Carl that he's not safe...ever and Carl just wants to help people and be nice.

I love love LOVE that they are switching up the gender roles and having someone like Carol be a leader and over all bad *kitten* while Tyreese is more than happy staying in and helping take care of Judith. Although I'm sad that Carol seems to feel like she isn't part of the group anymore and wants to leave. I really hope that she and Daryl aren't driving straight towards another crazy *kitten* group.

Bob...poor Bob!! I thought for sure he was wandering out into the woods to die because he was bit at the food bank. He and Sasha are so cute together and he's really become a likable character.

AnaNotBanana

Booksandbeaches wrote: »

Bob-b-q! Or is it leg-kebob?

I thought the reason Bob was crying by that tree just before he was taken was because he was bitten when he was underwater with the Walker. He didn't want to tell Sasha just yet. I wonder what eating a Walker does, if anything.

It's funny that Rick tells his son not to tell his guard down, but I felt like the group let its guard down.

What do you think is going on with the priest? It looks like he locked himself in and kept away people. And how is he connected to the group that has a cross on the back of their cars?

I thought for a second that maybe when Bob was coming to it was a flashback because the Termite from the cabin was there! But apparently Tyreese didn't kill him. He thought that he beat him to death but apparently the guy survived. And I thought for SURE they would make some joke about dark meat!! LOL

Booksandbeaches

I was also wondering if Bob was wandering outside to avoid the temptation of drinking the Communion wine. It was hinted before he was an alcoholic. But wandering outside at night is a bad idea..and lighting those candles, putting them on the window sills seemed dumb too.

I get why Darryl and Carol took off, but that's so impetuous. But maybe this is a way to get them together for some sexy time! They'll finally be alone and have no chance but to fall into each other's arms. *hopes*

AnaNotBanana

Booksandbeaches wrote: »

I was also wondering if Bob was wandering outside to avoid the temptation of drinking the Communion wine. It was hinted before he was an alcoholic. But wandering outside at night is a bad idea..and lighting those candles, putting them on the window sills seemed dumb too.

I didn't even think of the wine having an effect on Bob but that's definitely a possibility. I think he was also overwhelmed with positive feelings about finally having a group where he feels like he belongs. Then BOOM he's knocked out. Poor Bob!!!

Booksandbeaches

Now I think Father Gabriel knows about Terminus and helped the Termites get people to eat. That would be awful thing. There has to be something super bad in his past. If he only locked out people, couldn't they break the doors or windows to get in if there were enough of them. Hell, I'd probably burn the place down... lol...

AnaNotBanana

Booksandbeaches wrote: »

Now I think Father Gabriel knows about Terminus and helped the Termites get people to eat. That would be awful thing. There has to be something super bad in his past. If he only locked out people, couldn't they break the doors or windows to get in if there were enough of them. Hell, I'd probably burn the place down... lol...

He's surprisingly well kept for it being the end of the world. But really how many people would he run into in the middle of the woods like that. I still think there is a connection between the church and the car that stole Beth.

Booksandbeaches

Maybe he turned over his flock to the Termites?

But yes, that car, Father Gabriel and Beth ..there's a connection. The car had a cross on the back of it like it was some church vehicle. And that blond young woman in the picture he looked at seemed more than just an ordinary person to him. Was it a wife or girlfriend?

Kincar

It really bugged me when they went in the water. I know they needed the food, but they also know walkers don't need to breathe and could be under the water. They moved around like there was nothing to worry about.

I think Bob went outside to cry because he was bitten by that submerged walker. I wonder what that would do to the termites who ate his infected flesh.

AnaNotBanana

Booksandbeaches wrote: »

Maybe he turned over his flock to the Termites?

But yes, that car, Father Gabriel and Beth ..there's a connection. The car had a cross on the back of it like it was some church vehicle. And that blond young woman in the picture he looked at seemed more than just an ordinary person to him. Was it a wife or girlfriend?

I think she was someone that either worked at the church or closely with the church. I don't think they were married but they definitely had a little something something going on.

sofaking6

Aaaah SO MUCH WIRE! I do love Bob because I get his character, and of course because he is D'Angelo Barksdale, and also I hope that Carver/Gabriel isn't responsible for Beth's abduction. TTD did say that wherever she is, she is not enjoying herself. If Gabriel is involved, he's a dead padre.

I think it's clear that he hoarded all of the food drive food and locked everyone else out. So he definitely caused the blonde girl's death. I couldn't tell whether he was frozen in fear or in guilt/shame down there.

Also, I really love that the guy Tyrese thinks he killed isn't dead. What will he do when he finds out? Will he be glad because he wants to not be a killer, or upset because the guy is a baby-strangling cannibal who he let live?

RBXChas

Do you think Tyreese knew that he didn't kill him? I'm not sure he didn't know that. If he'd beaten him to the point where he thought he'd killed him, even though a few weeks had passed, I doubt he'd look anything close to normal. I'm trying to remember how he looked in the little snippets from when Bob was waking up. I plan on re-watching tonight before I continue with the next episode. (We planned to last night, but work got in the way.)

AnaNotBanana

RBXChas wrote: »

Do you think Tyreese knew that he didn't kill him? I'm not sure he didn't know that. If he'd beaten him to the point where he thought he'd killed him, even though a few weeks had passed, I doubt he'd look anything close to normal. I'm trying to remember how he looked in the little snippets from when Bob was waking up. I plan on re-watching tonight before I continue with the next episode. (We planned to last night, but work got in the way.)

I'm not sure what happened there. I could definitely see that Tyreese thought he was dead and just left him there. But then again if he really thought the guy was dead why didn't he finish him off with a knife through the ear to make sure he didn't turn.

Then again with Tyreese being the way that he was I could see him getting the brink of killing the guy and then pulling back. Tyreese doesn't want to cross the line of killing people. Maybe he thought the guy would not have a chance of survival and just left him there to die on his own.