06.16.2015- ramblings again

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carimiller7391
carimiller7391 Posts: 1,091 Member
edited November 2024 in Social Groups
Good morning ladies and gents!!!

OK..... this LCHF stuff is hard. I did so GOOD yesterday at work, but when I got home from work... all HECK broke loose. While at work, I concentrated on work and not food... when I got home... my back was killing me (to the point I took a pain pill, 2 muscle relaxers and got into bed at 730)... I did run some errands after work, don't think getting in and out of the car helped me out at all, but I had to get some stuff done... hurting or not.

So, I'm trying a new approach to this LCHF way of eating. Instead of killing myself not to eat carbs, I brought a journal with me. It's going to be my mood journal. I can keep track of food on MFP, but not the emotions causing me to want/eat certain foods. Hopefully with this approach I can pinpoint my triggers for carbs/comfort foods. Make a list of other things I can do when I have these feelings. Something more constructive then eating/stuffing my feelings. I'm hoping this approach helps. I plan on tracking for the next 3 weeks in my mood journal. See if I can find a pattern, a time (tracking time that I eat also) that I become weaker, or certain situations that cause the cravings and what I did to stay on track.

Again, I need to remember I need food to nourish my body, not comfort my soul.

Hugs,
Cari

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  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    You can do this, Cari! You deserve to be healthy and pain free!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Remember, too, if it were easy, everyone would do it.

    It took me 6 months of last year in maintenance working on my head to be READY to start this new WOE this year. So remember to that for the majority of people, diving in doesn't work. If diving in to a brilliant new program any time we got a fire lit in our souls worked, I doubt any of us would ever be fat, because we are such a passionate group!
  • carimiller7391
    carimiller7391 Posts: 1,091 Member
    Thanks for the words of wisdom Carly. It is so hard and deflating not to be able to just **jump** right into something when my mind says I'm ready, but my head and body is saying something completely different.

    I do plan on giving myself time to get my mind/head/body ready for this new WOE. If it takes me 6 months, I'll do it. I need to. I need to make this change to feel better and my life depends on it, literally.

    I think just tracking foods/moods and time might help me see a pattern. Than I can take that pattern and tweak it and work on habits/routines that will aide in weight loss/getting healthier and feeling better all around. Diving in didn't work. I see that now. I eat mindlessly when I get home. Plus, I deal with all the God awful junk food that my folks have in the house. I've managed to put it out of sight out of mind, but I still know it's there. I'm really working on saving money to get out of the house. I did SO MUCH BETTER when I had my own place, as the junk didn't come home with me.

    Onward and downward
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    If reading helps as much as writing, I wrote blogs here going through parts of my journey. It would be roughly in this order:

    What finally got me started:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/shrapnel-of-an-epiphany-warning-raw-intense-adult-content-674031

    Turning Point:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/motivation-versus-determination-699445

    Continuing:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/daring-to-live-is-facing-fear-otherwise-do-you-live-at-all-702548
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/no-more-rest-days-let-s-make-them-mental-workout-days-704594
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/forged-in-the-fire-of-misery-determination-706069
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/things-i-ve-said-that-stuck-706861
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/what-is-stopping-you-706863

    Day before my whole world of eating shifted:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/sometimes-a-kick-in-the-head-is-exactly-what-you-need-right-722423

    New Mindset:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/2015-plans-not-resolutions-not-challenges-plans-722963

    LCHF Journey:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/side-effects-worth-it-724700
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/daily-musings-january-724989
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/KnitOrMiss/view/sneaky-nsvs-726516

    And everything from there forward....

    Feel free to ignore all of this... But I wanted to show you just some of what I went through to get from square 1 to square 400 and back to square 1 to take a new path on the diagonal to my old path, etc.

    SUPERSUMOHUGS,

    Each time you come back swinging, you come back stronger.

    Hugs,
    Carly
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    So its been about 10 days since superhuman now and I have been struggling. I gained about 10-12lb in water weight during our house move which I have managed to drop 9.5 of back off again just through watching my cals and upping my water but Ive been avoiding the gym and 'spending' a large amount on crap each day and just eating less to compensate.

    Went to PT tonight and really worked it. Am totally worn out and couldnt do another exercise if you asked. I also took a cheat day today just to get it out my system. Ive had coke, chocolate and even went to McDonalds.

    And I really dont feel I need it

    In fact I left my Mcdonalds uneaten and gave it to my husband and all I am really craving now is a chicken mayo wrap because I know I have high protein wraps, chopped chicken and lightest mayo in the fridge. Makes me realise my head is totally back in it now as Ive not enjoyed my cheat day at all but got so much out of my PT session,

    So tomorrow am back on my old plan of high protein 1900 cals a day clean food and working my diminishing ***** off down the gym 4x a week as hard as I can manage.

    Off for a chicken mayo wrap to celebrate this epiphany
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    As for you lovely ladies. Cari I think the mood journal sounds like a tremendous idea. Finding your triggers is a huge first step to helping to stick with your new WOE. If you want I can try and find the format my nutritionist gave me though I admit to never using it properly as I fairly much know mine.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    So its been about 10 days since superhuman now and I have been struggling. I gained about 10-12lb in water weight during our house move which I have managed to drop 9.5 of back off again just through watching my cals and upping my water but Ive been avoiding the gym and 'spending' a large amount on crap each day and just eating less to compensate.

    Went to PT tonight and really worked it. Am totally worn out and couldnt do another exercise if you asked. I also took a cheat day today just to get it out my system. Ive had coke, chocolate and even went to McDonalds.

    And I really dont feel I need it

    In fact I left my Mcdonalds uneaten and gave it to my husband and all I am really craving now is a chicken mayo wrap because I know I have high protein wraps, chopped chicken and lightest mayo in the fridge. Makes me realise my head is totally back in it now as Ive not enjoyed my cheat day at all but got so much out of my PT session,

    So tomorrow am back on my old plan of high protein 1900 cals a day clean food and working my diminishing ***** off down the gym 4x a week as hard as I can manage.

    Off for a chicken mayo wrap to celebrate this epiphany

    That is brilliant, Lise! Congrats on the epiphany and getting back to it!
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    Thanks Carly, I think I hit a wall with the move etc and it really derailed me to the point I couldnt admit it to anyone but I dont want to stick where I am. So I emailed my nutritionist tonight who is excited to get me going again
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Thanks Carly, I think I hit a wall with the move etc and it really derailed me to the point I couldnt admit it to anyone but I dont want to stick where I am. So I emailed my nutritionist tonight who is excited to get me going again

    I'm so excited that you have so many great resources at your disposal. MFP for me is about it!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    And woman, seriously... Admitting all these thing is freaking terrifying! Kudos on you for taking that first step.
  • carimiller7391
    carimiller7391 Posts: 1,091 Member
    Thanks Carly for all the blogs to read. Just got thru them and everything makes a LOT of sense to me.

    Lise, I agree with Carly.. you admitted to it. That's always step one.
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    Thanks. Yes I do have some good resources, i just got lucky in having some spare cash over the summer. Ive just had to drop PT though and cant see me renewing my nutritionist after this run of sessions as our house move has hit us hard so I need to make the most of whats left. Shes been great though and was really pleased I admitted everything to her and wanted to move on from it. I am exploring mindfulness with an eating element atm, might be worth a look for you Cari with the whole emotional eating thing. Ive done mindfulness in the past but less so with regards to food
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    What do you mean, specifically "exploring mindfulness with an eating element?" I still struggle many times with stress eating too...so always curious!
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    Ive looked at mindfulness in the past, im not sure if you are au fait with the concept but i find it helps my depression. I can explain more if you want though. But I am now looking at applying the concepts to my eating
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Okay, I don't have time to read all this this very second, but I've been harping on in another group about needing to slow down and live in the moment, so this mindfulness approach may be something I desperately need! So printing this to read!!! Thanks, Lise! Sometimes I'm terrible about just slowing down...
  • carimiller7391
    carimiller7391 Posts: 1,091 Member
    Lise, thanks for the links. I'll be reading them today.
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    Any time ladies. It worked really well with my daily treat today tbf
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    My eating disorder shrink recommends mindful eating too. I do practice it when I have company for a meal, but never alone. Too often I just gulp down my food barely chewed. Good reminder, Lise. Very interesting articles.
    Karen
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    For those of you enjoying the mindful eating idea, someone posted this in another of my groups in response to someone asking about if folks do cheat days and if so how, and I loved the response...

    "I don't like the terminology myself.

    If cheat means allowing yourself to go over plan for a day, why is it considered "cheating"? That sounds like a planned plan excursion.

    If "cheating" is another word - a euphemism really - for losing discipline and diving into a bag or two of chips or a a tin of cookies or a loaf of sour dough bread or ^ insert your vice here ^ - that isn't cheating, that's a loss of control, not a plan.

    If I *want* to go over my plan, I do. Usually this only occurs in conjunction with an evening out, and as we don't go out all that much, when I do if I'm in the mood for a beer I'm not going to deny myself a lovely tall pint of locally brewed hoppy IPA waiting to be drawn. You'll find beer and salad on a couple of my nights out. :wink:

    Even then on such a day my calorie intake on such days rarely goes above what would be considered maintenance for me, but even if the intake was higher yet, one planned day is not an issue.

    Live is there to live. Have your plan-vacation day if you want, just plan for it.

    I've got one planned already: On my birthday in September I'm having cake. Home made carrot cake with cream cheese icing, or my wife's chocolate zucchini cake so moist no icing required or wanted -- I've not decided. It won't be a cheat but a choice."
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    edited June 2015
    Well said! I've given up the term "cheat" as well as labeling food "good" or "bad."

    And maybe this will sound like a rationalization, but it works for me--I don't measure my successes in black and white. Instead, I measure in grays, or percentages. If my goal for a ten day challenge was to stay under 20 grams of carbs, and I went over on 3 days, I call that a 70% success. Compared to the prior ten days, when I had maybe a 30% success, that"s a huge improvement. In another group, I told Cari that I've been trying to eliminate sugar from my diet for three years and constantly "failing," even though the amount of time I managed to remain sugar free kept increasing, from a few days, then a few weeks, than a few months, etc. Finally I decided that a 90% sugar free life was a success for me. 90% of the time, I'm 100% sugar free, LOL! My next ten day challenge is to log my food, follow a meal plan, and swim every day. I'm shooting for 100%, but since I'm starting at 0%, 0%, and 25%, if I can get 50% on all three, that's awesome. Any movement forward toward a healthier, thinner life is success.

    Just my optimistic rambling here.
    K.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    KarenZen wrote: »
    Well said! I've given up the term "cheat" as well as labeling food "good" or "bad."

    And maybe this will sound like a rationalization, but it works for me--I don't measure my successes in black and white. Instead, I measure in grays, or percentages. If my goal for a ten day challenge was to stay under 20 grams of carbs, and I went over on 3 days, I call that a 70% success. Compared to the prior ten days, when I had maybe a 30% success, that"s a huge improvement. In another group, I told Cari that I've been trying to eliminate sugar from my diet for three years and constantly "failing," even though the amount of time I managed to remain sugar free kept increasing, from a few days, then a few weeks, than a few months, etc. Finally I decided that a 90% sugar free life was a success for me. 90% of the time, I'm 100% sugar free, LOL! My next ten day challenge is to log my food, follow a meal plan, and swim every day. I'm shooting for 100%, but since I'm starting at 0%, 0%, and 25%, if I can get 50% on all three, that's awesome. Any movement forward toward a healthier, thinner life is success.

    Just my optimistic rambling here.
    K.

    That to me is not a rationalization, but rather an acceptance of the fact that reality is no perfect - and celebrating everything you can. I'm going to make a note of this for days when I struggle with not being 100% compliance/success 100% of the time!
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    Carly, you're the second person in two days who reminded me that I don't have to be "perfect." The first was my bariatric doc at my six month follow-up. I went to my appt yesterday all embarrassed because I knew if I'd followed the guidelines perfectly, I would have lost more than 100 pounds. When she said, "you're human... no one expects perfection... 100 pounds is amazing," I just burst out crying. The pressure I've put on myself to be super human is CRAZY.
    K.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    edited June 2015
    KarenZen wrote: »
    Carly, you're the second person in two days who reminded me that I don't have to be "perfect." The first was my bariatric doc at my six month follow-up. I went to my appt yesterday all embarrassed because I knew if I'd followed the guidelines perfectly, I would have lost more than 100 pounds. When she said, "you're human... no one expects perfection... 100 pounds is amazing," I just burst out crying. The pressure I've put on myself to be super human is CRAZY.
    K.

    I don't know why, but we're all geared towards this. Perfectionists to a level more than most. We think that if we are given a goal and we don't fully reach it, all the progress we have made means nothing! That is preposterous. If I end up 0.1 pounds away from a 100 pound goal, does that mean the other 99.9 pounds meant NOTHING? Seriously? Yet, we tend to think this way.

    We get upset when we aren't back below our previous lowest, even though we may have gained 40 pounds with a baby and lost 39 of it again. Or even 5 of it again. We fight hormones, our inner voices, the judgment of society, and so many other things it is ridiculous. I say celebrate every dadgum success, no matter how little or large.

    We are fabulous creatures put on this plane of existence and FFS, we deserve to be celebrated! Even if we lose and gain the same 10 pounds over again, we've still lost the cumulative effect. I think those of us who have fought the longest have sometimes fought harder and more passionately than those who didn't have to work as hard (not discounting anyone who works their butt off and gets there faster!!!! Just saying. Doing the same bit over and over again is EXHAUSTING in a way few who haven't been there can comprehend)...

    I wrote this on my wall the other day because I was tired of seeing people struggle so hard for any progress only to have that stifled by themselves or others:

    Every day you log in and every step you take are progress toward the you that you DESERVE to be!

    Oh, and on the "if I did the plan perfectly" bit, I struggle so badly with this within my physical therapy. I'm supposed to do all the exercises 3 times daily, and sometimes that just doesn't happen, but I'm doing a heckuva lot better than not doing them at all!!
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    edited June 2015
    YES to everything you wrote, Carly.

    My mantra for the ten day challenge: Progress IS Perfection!
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    KarenZen wrote: »
    YES to everything you wrote, Carly.

    My mantra for the ten day challenge: Progress IS Perfection!

    LOVE this!
  • maoribadger
    maoribadger Posts: 1,837 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/maoribadger/view/using-the-f-word-706844

    Upon giving up trying to attain perfection and learning to enjoy the process instead xxx
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    Love the blog!

    My reaction to the word "fat" was, for many years, shame and horror. Last year I decided to claim it (something like Fat Amy from Pitch Perfect). Why did I give that word so much power??? Some people are short, some tall, some light skinned, some darker skinned, some skinny, some fat. It's just an adjective.

    Yup. I'm fat. And?

    No apologies here any more. No shame either. If I could stay fat and live a healthy, pain-free life where I fit comfortably in airplane seats, movie seats, and car seats, I probably would. I really like fattening food, and my body really likes to store it.

    K.
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