Anyone Zwifting this coming Winter?

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  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    edited October 2015
    smeakim1 wrote: »
    ... I think they are going with the idea of an overall increase of CTL to increase your FTP versus specific threshold FTP work.
    That's kind of what I was thinking too but if so it's only going to work for someone relatively out of shape I think. Just glancing through the listed TSS for the various workouts I don't think it would have much more effect for me than maintaining my current CTL, and possibly not even that. I haven't delved that deeply into it so I'm not certain but that was my impression while skimming through last night.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    Zwift definitely doesn't make workout selection very easy at this point for sure. I don't know if you've seen this, but it should really help with the problem: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/10/29/zwift-workouts-version-1-1/. Go download the PDF and keep it handy.

    One of the things people have been asking for for years in TrainerRoad is the ability to pre-select workouts. For example, the following scenario: you're at your desk at lunch, surfing the Interwebs and planning your evening training session. You head over to TrainerRoad.com/zwift.com, browse the online workout list, pick the one you want to do later, and click the "schedule" button. Possibly even schedule multiple workouts for multiple days. Anyway, you go home after work, get your kit on, fire up trainerroad/zwift, and it automagically loads up the workout you scheduled for the day. Start pedaling.

    I'm actually a little ambivalent about other riders around during interval sessions. On the one hand, I'm generally so focused on hitting my power target I don't really notice much else. On the other, when I do notice another rider, particularly one passing me, I have to squash the urge to chase him/her, thus blowing my interval. I dunno though. TrainerRoad definitely still has a huge edge in terms of actual training, Zwift a huge edge in riding. Too bad they can't/won't partner up and offer a bundled subscription, then blend their apps together somehow.
  • Jakess1971
    Jakess1971 Posts: 1,208 Member
    edited November 2015
    You can tell the workout stuff has been bolted on as a rushed extra as you can't select it past the initial setup screen.

    Did find one bug during the FTP session, I found if you stopped during the initial warmup which I did to nip to have a slash, it then has a bit of a wobbler and the power goes a bit out of whack, during one of the warmup segments the brake went on so hard that the incredible hulk would have had a problem turning a crank! Luckily it behaved itself during the actual 20 min FTP test which I came out at 221watts, funnily enough I'd always estimated it at 220, something to improve on but I'm always a tad limited by the old Asthma, I just don't have the lung capacity to really go for it without sending myself into a wheeze fit, I'm more into endurance then speed anyway but it's cool knowing what your limits are.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    Jakess1971 wrote: »
    You can tell the workout stuff has been bolted on as a rushed extra as you can't select it past the initial setup screen.

    You actually can get into the workout selection whenever you wish. Just hit the 'e' key and it'll bring up the workout screen.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    Finally hit the 1,000 mile mark on Zwift during yesterday's ride!
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  • m1xm0d3
    m1xm0d3 Posts: 1,576 Member
    Wow Noel! Impressive. I must ask why so many trainer miles though when we are just now approaching the off season? My fear with Zwift is burning out using it.
  • Jakess1971
    Jakess1971 Posts: 1,208 Member

    Done a fair bit myself although since I've been allowed to play outside again I've done about 35km on Zwift since and that was for an FTP test:

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  • Jakess1971
    Jakess1971 Posts: 1,208 Member
    ntnunk wrote: »
    Jakess1971 wrote: »
    You can tell the workout stuff has been bolted on as a rushed extra as you can't select it past the initial setup screen.

    You actually can get into the workout selection whenever you wish. Just hit the 'e' key and it'll bring up the workout screen.

    Ah that's good to know, still think it should be accessible as a menu item on the paused settings though, I'm sure they will when they get it together properly.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    m1xm0d3 wrote: »
    Wow Noel! Impressive. I must ask why so many trainer miles though when we are just now approaching the off season? My fear with Zwift is burning out using it.

    Well, I started with Zwift almost a year ago (very early December 2014, I think) so this isn't all recent mileage. Having said that, the trainer is a major part of my cycling life year round.

    Many times when I have hard intervals, especially harder long intervals, I'll do them on the trainer no matter the weather or time of year. For one, I have a really tough time finding roads to do, say, 15 minutes at threshold without hitting a stop sign, stop light, etc. Easier and more consistent to just do those types of effort on the trainer.

    Second, I think it's safer. When I'm at nearing the end of a hard interval, deep into oxygen debt, my tongue is dragging the ground and my eyes are bleeding, the last thing I need to be worried about is traffic, deer, other cyclists, or road hazards. Much safer on the trainer. All I have to worry about there is not falling off.

    Lastly, since I started using a trainer heavily very early in my "life" as a cyclist, I don't seem to have the same loathing of indoor riding that most cyclists seem to have. I don't always want to do it, but I don't mind it, so when the weather is bad outside I'll just ride the trainer. I personally see no good reason to go out and deal with the discomfort, hazards, lack of visibility, and wear on my bike that rain riding brings when I can stay inside where it's comfortable and safe, ride the trainer, and in most cases get a better actual workout than I would have outside.

    All of these items have been true for years and I've been using a trainer this way for years. I will say, with the advent of Zwift I'm even MORE likely to forgo outdoor rides for indoor ones. I find myself these days sometimes riding Zwift just because it's just easier. Less gear, less prep, I usually have a bike sitting on a trainer anyway. Throw on a pair of shorts, fire up the computer, and go.
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    smeakim1 wrote: »
    Well Beta is over.... I wonder how many people drop off of Zwift

    give it another 50km or 14 days and you'll get a better picture.

    and again in another 2 months when the Strava Pro subscription deal runs out.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    TheBigYin wrote: »
    smeakim1 wrote: »
    Well Beta is over.... I wonder how many people drop off of Zwift

    give it another 50km or 14 days and you'll get a better picture.

    and again in another 2 months when the Strava Pro subscription deal runs out.

    ^^ This.

    And I think the Zwift guys know it. What I'm less sure of is if they know how bored people are with the current courses. They see "everyone being in one place, all together" as being the important piece. Personally, I'd much rather have a ton of different courses to ride. I don't care if anyone else is around or not.

    As much as I love Zwift I'm pretty sick of Watopia.
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    in case anyone's missed it - DC Rainmaker's Annual Indoor Trainer Roundup

    http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/11/2015-2016trainer-recommendations.html

  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    anyone seen this little teaser "easter egg" while on the Island ??

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    Coming Soon... Watopia Ocean Route Expansion....


  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    edited November 2015
    I also spotted a couple of Ghost Riders Flying in...

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    (they seemed to be circling in a holding pattern over the bridge in the valley below, and peeling off onto the course (on the reverse direction...))

    Glad I wasn't hammering at the time, i'd have thought I was seeing things...




  • Jakess1971
    Jakess1971 Posts: 1,208 Member
    Lol, I quite like the odd entertaining glitch but yes please bring on a bigger course, 9km is rather pathetic when your trying to do an Imperial century!

    Well I've signed up, I've found it to be quite useful over this weekend with the heavy rain, I'm just not risking bad weather with my asthma, not worth it so I'm sure I'll get my moneys worth, over the 2,000km marker now so kind of already have.
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    I'll see how I'm going at the end of the 2 month strava freebie - if I'm either released to ride outside, or fit enough to actually ride some of the Tacx DVD's by then I may not bother - unless they really do get their *kitten* in gear and start improving the routes, allowing selectable courses, and some "proper" real world stuff, not just riding around a desolate rock in the middle of the ocean
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    I did an Zwift imperial century myself on Saturday. 17.5 laps around Watopia. I saw (and got passed by) @smeakim1 at least a couple of times. If I wasn't sick to death of Watopia before (and I was) I certainly am now.

    Still, I can't imagine spending that much time on a trainer without Zwift. Watopia is old but it's still pretty great, all things considered.
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    I'm an East Coast US person, so you're only an hour or two off my time. I'll show up on Zwift as N. Nunkovich.
  • cloggsy71
    cloggsy71 Posts: 2,208 Member
    ntnunk wrote: »
    I'm an East Coast US person, so you're only an hour or two off my time. I'll show up on Zwift as N. Nunkovich.

    I've seen you on too and given you a 'Ride on' ;)
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    cloggsy71 wrote: »
    ntnunk wrote: »
    I'm an East Coast US person, so you're only an hour or two off my time. I'll show up on Zwift as N. Nunkovich.

    I've seen you on too and given you a 'Ride on' ;)

    Thanks! What's your Zwift ID?
  • cloggsy71
    cloggsy71 Posts: 2,208 Member
    Cloggsy Goodwin ;)
  • ntnunk
    ntnunk Posts: 936 Member
    cloggsy71 wrote: »
    Cloggsy Goodwin ;)

    I'll keep an eye out!
  • Jakess1971
    Jakess1971 Posts: 1,208 Member
    The thing I think really needs improvement is the messaging, I'm often looking around at the TV or music vids or playing with my phone or watching the fit girl next door do her gardening to notice a lot of the messages .... anyway what would be nice is if it kept the private messages so you can read them after the fact .... like whatsapp, at the mo they pop up for a few seconds and then disappear, you cant even select the message to reply to.
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    cloggsy71 wrote: »
    ntnunk wrote: »
    I'm an East Coast US person, so you're only an hour or two off my time. I'll show up on Zwift as N. Nunkovich.

    I've seen you on too and given you a 'Ride on' ;)

    Can't be doing with all that "Facebook Thumbs Up" Cobblers. What's wrong with a "chapeau" button for the pretentious twatts like me ?
  • Jakess1971
    Jakess1971 Posts: 1,208 Member
    I actually find the 'Ride Ons' sometimes cause a little small screen 'blip' pause with a 'heart in the mouth ... oh **** it's crashed moment'....
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    smeakim1 wrote: »
    TheBigYin wrote: »
    cloggsy71 wrote: »
    ntnunk wrote: »
    I'm an East Coast US person, so you're only an hour or two off my time. I'll show up on Zwift as N. Nunkovich.

    I've seen you on too and given you a 'Ride on' ;)

    Can't be doing with all that "Facebook Thumbs Up" Cobblers. What's wrong with a "chapeau" button for the pretentious twatts like me ?

    I could message you Chapeau will that work? Thats if I see you most of you are off by the time I get on the bike at 5AM CST.... Plus unless I am warming up or in a recovery interval I dont have the capability to text, chat, converse, or etc.

    Apparently, according to the strava "ride-by" I was on today at the same time as you, just going the other direction (slowly)

    http://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/?utm_source=strava_activity_header#430695989,ciysGQ==
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    well - I've been keeping up with the Tacx Forum hoping for news of potential "hardware upgrades" for the Mk1 Bushido. No such bloody luck - I think that there's a fundamental difference in the brake/flywheel assembly as well as the "electromatrickery" stuff between the oldie and the T2780 so I reckon it's a bit of a folorn hope.

    however... I did spot that they're doing a "swap out" of the brake control pcb for the Genius... basically, it looks like a "service exchange" - remove the "end cap" where the power cable plugs in as a unit, ship it back to Tacx, along with a payment, and they'll send a replacement brake controller via courier - provided you're in europe - i'm guessing they don't really want to get involved in transatlantic shipping initially...

    Basically, it's a "controller board" swap for the Genius that gives the old model full ANT+ FE-C compatibility... €181.50 inc vat and shipping.

    http://forum.tacx.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=25520 for the forum announcement

    http://www.tacxdata.com/files/support/genius/geniussmart/Genius-smart-replacement.pdf for the actual details of how to sort it out...

    and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_PZsJv2-w&index=1&list=PLPvt5hykatIijTgLLFFK3_twZveVoDefT for the video to show you how to do the swap

  • m1xm0d3
    m1xm0d3 Posts: 1,576 Member
    Anyone else having the 'workout' mode crash Zwift? I can do standard rides fine but every time I try to enter workout mode it crashes to desktop. Have a ticket in to support now but who knows how long that will take and if I will even be able to resolve it. Was hoping to get in an FTP test before December.

    No OS changes
    Tried running as admin, no luck
    Uninstalled and reinstalled, no luck
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    m1xm0d3 wrote: »
    Anyone else having the 'workout' mode crash Zwift? I can do standard rides fine but every time I try to enter workout mode it crashes to desktop. Have a ticket in to support now but who knows how long that will take and if I will even be able to resolve it. Was hoping to get in an FTP test before December.

    No OS changes
    Tried running as admin, no luck
    Uninstalled and reinstalled, no luck

    nope - the only time i've had it crash is on the initial loadup - if I get to the initial blue display after signup, then it's been fine. It crashes about 3/5 times before that - I'm thinking I need to uninstall/reinstall tbh, but frankly I've been too lazy...
  • cloggsy71
    cloggsy71 Posts: 2,208 Member
    m1xm0d3 wrote: »
    Anyone else having the 'workout' mode crash Zwift? I can do standard rides fine but every time I try to enter workout mode it crashes to desktop. Have a ticket in to support now but who knows how long that will take and if I will even be able to resolve it. Was hoping to get in an FTP test before December.

    No OS changes
    Tried running as admin, no luck
    Uninstalled and reinstalled, no luck

    Nope, it has died during a workout before, but Windows 10 installed some updates then shut down without warning - so not Zwift's fault...
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