Exercise Tracking
QuietInkedOne
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Hi there! Fairly new to using Jawbone with MFP. I've heard different thoughts on this, how do I go about tracking exercise? Anyone have a link to somewhere that clearly explains this? Thank you!
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No need to log any step-based activity—your UP is tracking it for you. Log non-step exercise (like swimming or biking) either in the UP app or in MFP—never both. Exercise logged in MFP overwrites your UP total burn (which is TDEE) during that time, so I log in UP.
If you want your UP exercise to appear in your MFP feed, post a status update. That way, you get the best of both worlds—an accurate burn + likes.0 -
Hm... I've been experimenting with logging my exercise in different manners.
Right now, I log most workouts in Runkeeper. This includes both step-based (walking, running) and non-step-based (biking, swimming) activities.
Then I have Runkeeper configured to synchronise _both_ with MFP and UP.
The end result seems plausible, but may not be optimal. Since I have UP set up with negative calorie adjustments in MPF, I usually get a small deduction from my exercise from UP.
I have not, however, been able to confidently determine which takes precedence when UP determines my TDEE. I seems in general that the exercise calories don't get counted doubly: UP appears to be intelligent enough to do this correctly. I originally thought that UP's calculations would be used even if Runkeeper logs a step-based activity, such as running, to UP, but now I'm not so sure.
I could not find specific information from Jawbone about this. Does anyone have an idea how this works?
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mr_canoe_head wrote: »I have Runkeeper configured to synchronise _both_ with MFP and UP.
Disconnect Runkeeper + MFP. That way, Runkeeper sends your info to UP, UP sends your TDEE to MFP, and MFP adjusts your calories accordingly.0 -
editorgrrl wrote: »mr_canoe_head wrote: »I have Runkeeper configured to synchronise _both_ with MFP and UP.
Disconnect Runkeeper + MFP. That way, Runkeeper sends your info to UP, UP sends your TDEE to MFP, and MFP adjusts your calories accordingly.
Doesn't MFP do this anyway?
For example, I just logged a 2 hour run, which Runkeeper recorded as 1106 calories. UP's estimated burn is 1309 calories for the same run (sent to UP from Runkeeper, while UP simultaneously recorded steps during the run).
In MFP, I am getting a -180 calorie adjustment to my exercise from UP. MFP has the following breakdown:
- UP Calories Burned: 2994 (full-day projection, based on 2315 calories burned as of 4:06 p.m.)
- MyFitness Pal Calories Burned: 3174 (includes 1106 calories from exercise)
- UP Calorie Adjustment: -180
MFP is therefore giving me a 926 exercise credit (1106 - 180).
It looks to me like MFP is already adjusting my calories correctly, based on the UP TDEE. This seems to be in line with the MFP FAQ about the calorie adjustment.
Or have I completely misunderstood something here?0 -
I just got an Up24 and I find this all very confusing. Even after reading through all kinds of explanations for how it's all supposed to work. I previously used my iPhone as my step tracker and it would give me more calories left to eat and therefore increase upon the deficit I have set.
However, the Up is taking away calories from my goal, which makes sense to a point. I understand that until I reach the level of activity that MFP considers matches what I chose (sedentary), that it will take away. But, my goal is already a deficit... So why would it increase the deficit further? And also, even after 6330 steps yesterday, I still had a negative adjustment as if I wasn't even the minimally active sedentary person.
Fitbit users from another group I'm in tried to help me understand but it doesn't seem to work the same for them. They all told me by the time they have 2000 steps in, they start to get extra calories.
I don't plan to eat back the extra calories, but I don't understand why it would reduce my 1296 calorie goal by an additional 200 because i walked 6000 steps.
Here's what I'm seeing if it helps. I don't know if there is a disfunction or if I just can't get my head around this.
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Even after 6330 steps yesterday, I still had a negative adjustment as if I wasn't even the minimally active sedentary person.
I don't understand why it would reduce my 1296 calorie goal by an additional 200 because i walked 6000 steps.
Your UP total burn is TDEE (total daily energy expenditure), the calories necessary to maintain your current weight. Your default MFP calorie goal is activity level minus deficit. Adjustments are the difference between your UP total burn and your MFP activity level.
Negative calorie adjustments mean you're burning fewer calories than your activity level. You can click on the adjustment in your diary to see the math MFP used to calculate it.
It's pointless to compare your adjustments per steps to anybody else's, because TDEE is affected by much more than just step count, including sex, age, height, weight, and exertion level.
Edited to add that your example cannot be correct—negative calorie adjustments never put your calories below 1,200.0 -
editorgrrl wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Even after 6330 steps yesterday, I still had a negative adjustment as if I wasn't even the minimally active sedentary person.
I don't understand why it would reduce my 1296 calorie goal by an additional 200 because i walked 6000 steps.
Your UP total burn is TDEE (total daily energy expenditure), the calories necessary to maintain your current weight. Your default MFP calorie goal is activity level minus deficit. Adjustments are the difference between your UP total burn and your MFP activity level.
Negative calorie adjustments mean you're burning fewer calories than your activity level. You can click on the adjustment in your diary to see the math MFP used to calculate it.
It's pointless to compare your adjustments per steps to anybody else's, because TDEE is affected by much more than just step count, including sex, age, height, weight, and exertion level.
Edited to add that your example cannot be correct—negative calorie adjustments never put your calories below 1,200.
The example didn't take it under 1200, just to 1202. I was just rounding up by saying 200 because I didn't remember exactly what it was. The image shows -94. So I am not good at rounding. Lol
Between two macro calculators I've used I get about a 1430 TDEE based on being sedentary and the other stats you mentioned. My calorie goal of 1296 is a 9% deficit, not very much at all.
So... I might be understanding a bit more now. Since I told MFP I want to lose 2lbs a week, which is too high, and it's set at sedentary, it seems like it's trying to take me down to the lowest recommended calorie goal because of my aggressive weight loss setting.
That makes sense now. As you can see from the bottom image, it's very different from how I got used to step calories showing up and it really threw me off.
I think I get it now. I'm going to play around with the loss setting and see how it's affected.
Thanks for answering. I really appreciate it.0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »I told MFP I want to lose 2lbs a week, which is too high, and it's set at sedentary, it seems like it's trying to take me down to the lowest recommended calorie goal because of my aggressive weight loss setting.
The less you have to lose, the more slowly it comes off. That's just the way the human body works. Setting your deficit too aggressively won't get you to goal any more quickly. It increases the likelihood you'll lose lean body mass in addition to fat. And it usually leads to bingeing.
Set your goal to .5 lb. per week for every 25 lbs. you're overweight: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/change_goals_guided0
