Season 4 - Ep. 12 - "Still" - 03/02/14
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This thread serves as a place to discuss speculation, and then reaction to the 03/02/14 episode
PLEASE REMEMBER TO NOT DISCUSS COMIC BOOK SPOILERS IN EPISODE/SEASON THREADS
AMC Sneak Peek:
http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/sneak-peek-episode-412-the-walking-dead-still
YouTube Promo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGeoms7bLfQ
PLEASE REMEMBER TO NOT DISCUSS COMIC BOOK SPOILERS IN EPISODE/SEASON THREADS
AMC Sneak Peek:
http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/sneak-peek-episode-412-the-walking-dead-still
YouTube Promo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGeoms7bLfQ 0
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OMG the only thing i got from the AMC preview is a scream and ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww that rattle snack i totally hate snakes lol0
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I had to avert my eyes during the rattlesnake skinning stage, but at least with Daryl as your partner, you won't starve.
What an emotional episode! I really liked Daryl's emotional scene. He really puts too much guilt on himself.
What was up with the "rich *****" sign on that dead woman?0 -
This episode was a snoozefest. Hopefully we can get on with the season next week.0
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I love Darrell, but an entire episode of Beth made me want to gouge my eyes out.
She is so whiny and pathetic. Yeah, I get that she wanted to have a drink before she died, but seriously, can we get somewhere safe before we toss back a few!!?!?!0 -
I had to avert my eyes during the rattlesnake skinning stage, but at least with Daryl as your partner, you won't starve.
What an emotional episode! I really liked Daryl's emotional scene. He really puts too much guilt on himself.
What was up with the "rich *****" sign on that dead woman?
On the Talking Dead they were saying there was an uprising of staff against country club members. I'm guessing she was a member that was killed by the staff. They also said that the people/walkers that were hanging from the ceiling were members that were hung by staff, or hung themselves during the staff uprising after the turn.
I loved this episode. Yes, Beth totally got on my nerves and I wanted to smack her a few times, but I kinda get it. The girl just lost her father, and has no idea whether her sister is alive or not. I'll give her a few whiny points for that.
Darrell/Norman was awesome in this episode. I loved his blowup and insult-fest at Beth, and seeing him finally break down and realize he does need/want other people in his life was amazing. The last time we saw him really upset like that was when he had to kill (walker) Merle. Plus, there was a ton of action with him to balance out the emotional parts of the show.
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Beth got on my nerves too for a long part of this episode. She just seems weak. I know she knows it too. But her story arc is going to show amazing growth I guess. I haven't read the comics. I was laughing when she picked a white cardigan for herself. White, really? Sure enough it lasted like all of one hour at most.
On the Talking Dead they were saying there was an uprising of staff against country club members. I'm guessing she was a member that was killed by the staff. They also said that the people/walkers that were hanging from the ceiling were members that were hung by staff, or hung themselves during the staff uprising after the turn.
Thanks! Sounds gruesome.0 -
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I thought this episode was a little too slow but it needed to be done. We've gotten more background on most of the main characters. We still don't know much about Bob, Tyrese and Sasha. Do you think that will make them easier to kill since we aren't that attached to them??
Beth reminded me of Carl in this episode. She was very eager to prove that she could take care of herself but then questioned Daryl about not helping her kill the zombie in the kitchen. And why on earth would you pick a white sweater?!? And I get that you want to drink but is this really the best time?? Plus she was holding her booze pretty well for being 16, not being very heavy and not eating a lot. She should have been SLOPPY drunk. I don't know why but I kind of got the vibe that she was trying to get Daryl to make a move on her. The whole "what haven't you done" drinking game felt awkward. I was waiting for her to say "I've never had sex before...." or something equally as cheesy.
I think it was great that Daryl kind of reverted to his old dirtbag, redneck ways when he started picking up money and jewelry from the country club. It was like he went into default mode like when Michonne just kind of turned off and allowed a giant horde to surround her and her new pets a couple of episodes ago. I'm glad that he finally opened up...although in a weird way...and admitted to having feelings. I think it's easy to dismiss his feeling since he is such a bad *kitten* but it hurt him too to lose everyone and feel like he could have done more to stop it.0 -
Although there was more than a little foreshadowing, I thought, when they were sitting on the porch together. Not sure how much longer she'll be around.
Good point!!! She did say to him "you're going to miss me when I'm gone."0 -
Beth got on my nerves too for a long part of this episode. She just seems weak. I know she knows it too. But her story arc is going to show amazing growth I guess. I haven't read the comics. I was laughing when she picked a white cardigan for herself. White, really? Sure enough it lasted like all of one hour at most.
On the Talking Dead they were saying there was an uprising of staff against country club members. I'm guessing she was a member that was killed by the staff. They also said that the people/walkers that were hanging from the ceiling were members that were hung by staff, or hung themselves during the staff uprising after the turn.
Thanks! Sounds gruesome.
I think this is a great back story. It seems totally plausible that the country club members wouldn't want to share supplies with the staff because they considered them "second class citizens." Or maybe even still expect the staff to wait on them and do whatever they said even though the world has fallen apart around them.0 -
You know a couple of things that bugged me about the moonshine:
A. That was supposed to be her first drink but she sucked it down like she has it every day for breakfast. I've never had moonshine, but I'm pretty sure it's got some burn.
B. On the Talkind Dead, Chris Hardwick asked Nirman Reedus if he has ever had moonshine before and his response was that they have been in GA for years, and that they all have had moonshine. I've lived in GA my entire life and I've never had moonshine! Way to perpetuate a stereotype!0 -
You know a couple of things that bugged me about the moonshine:
A. That was supposed to be her first drink but she sucked it down like she has it every day for breakfast. I've never had moonshine, but I'm pretty sure it's got some burn.
I second this all the way!! My first drink when I was 16 was Zima and it still burned a little!! :laugh: :blushing:
My boyfriend's dad makes moonshine in the garage (along with beer and wine) and some of that stuff tastes like straight up rubbing alcohol. There's no way she could have been downing shots like that.0 -
I don't know why but I kind of got the vibe that she was trying to get Daryl to make a move on her. The whole "what haven't you done" drinking game felt awkward. I was waiting for her to say "I've never had sex before...." or something equally as cheesy.
I got this vibe too and I am glad they didn't go this route... at least yet.0 -
I think Daryl didn't want her to drink the peach schnapps because it scared him that she might like it! And then to give her moonshine, which tastes BAD! was proof that he didn't want her to drink. I agree that she then sucked it down like it was good was a little unrealistic, and not getting sloppy drunk was unrealistic. I did love that this episode provided a back story for these characters, I though it was a great episode.0
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This episode made me hate Beth even more.
"I've never gotten drunk and did anything that I regretted. Teehee" ugh!
I'm so glad he flipped on her and told her she was acting like some twit.0 -
I just rewatched the episode during my lunch and need someone to rewatch so that I know I’m not going crazy!! I swear in the first scene where it shows the highway, where Beth & Daryl hide in the trunk, they show someone in the far distance running across the highway. I saw “someone” and not a zombie because it looks like they are running and not shambling. Did anyone else catch this?? Am I losing it?? LOL0
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Another question after rewatch….what did Daryl take out of the picture frame after breaking the glass at the country club bar? Was it a map?0
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Was no one else bothered that they started a fire in the middle of the night? I would have slept the night there because it seemed relatively safe. I wouldn't set fire in the night then walk into the woods where they might be walkers you can't even see clearly until they're right on top of you. Not to mention they were kind of drunk, so reaction time is already going to be slow. Burning the place down was a nice metaphor, but dumb as far as being practical.
I REALLY hope Beth and Daryl don't get together. Eww. Daryl needs to get together with someone else. Beth just seems too young for him.0 -
I just rewatched the episode during my lunch and need someone to rewatch so that I know I’m not going crazy!! I swear in the first scene where it shows the highway, where Beth & Daryl hide in the trunk, they show someone in the far distance running across the highway. I saw “someone” and not a zombie because it looks like they are running and not shambling. Did anyone else catch this?? Am I losing it?? LOL
No, I saw it too and I thought it was a fast moving walker.0 -
You know a couple of things that bugged me about the moonshine:
A. That was supposed to be her first drink but she sucked it down like she has it every day for breakfast. I've never had moonshine, but I'm pretty sure it's got some burn.
B. On the Talkind Dead, Chris Hardwick asked Nirman Reedus if he has ever had moonshine before and his response was that they have been in GA for years, and that they all have had moonshine. I've lived in GA my entire life and I've never had moonshine! Way to perpetuate a stereotype!
Hun, you keep spelling his name wrong. It's Daryl Dixon and Norman Reedus.
But great episode! Loved it!0 -
You know a couple of things that bugged me about the moonshine:
A. That was supposed to be her first drink but she sucked it down like she has it every day for breakfast. I've never had moonshine, but I'm pretty sure it's got some burn.
B. On the Talkind Dead, Chris Hardwick asked Nirman Reedus if he has ever had moonshine before and his response was that they have been in GA for years, and that they all have had moonshine. I've lived in GA my entire life and I've never had moonshine! Way to perpetuate a stereotype!
Hun, you keep spelling his name wrong. It's Daryl Dixon and Norman Reedus.
But great episode! Loved it!
I was typing from my phone.0 -
Was no one else bothered that they started a fire in the middle of the night? I would have slept the night there because it seemed relatively safe. I wouldn't set fire in the night then walk into the woods where they might be walkers you can't even see clearly until they're right on top of you. Not to mention they were kind of drunk, so reaction time is already going to be slow. Burning the place down was a nice metaphor, but dumb as far as being practical.
I REALLY hope Beth and Daryl don't get together. Eww. Daryl needs to get together with someone else. Beth just seems too young for him.
I thought the same thing. This wasn't a good episode in my opinion. It could have been a lot better.0 -
Was no one else bothered that they started a fire in the middle of the night? I would have slept the night there because it seemed relatively safe. I wouldn't set fire in the night then walk into the woods where they might be walkers you can't even see clearly until they're right on top of you. Not to mention they were kind of drunk, so reaction time is already going to be slow. Burning the place down was a nice metaphor, but dumb as far as being practical.
I REALLY hope Beth and Daryl don't get together. Eww. Daryl needs to get together with someone else. Beth just seems too young for him.
I thought the same thing. This wasn't a good episode in my opinion. It could have been a lot better.
Then mentioned on the Talking Dead that this was the first episode to focus on just two main character. I understand that they needed to focus and develop the characters that hadn't been developed yet but I think it was a little boring. I mean they went into Michonne's background and it was boring at all. I agree that it could have been better.0 -
Was no one else bothered that they started a fire in the middle of the night? I would have slept the night there because it seemed relatively safe. I wouldn't set fire in the night then walk into the woods where they might be walkers you can't even see clearly until they're right on top of you. Not to mention they were kind of drunk, so reaction time is already going to be slow. Burning the place down was a nice metaphor, but dumb as far as being practical.
I REALLY hope Beth and Daryl don't get together. Eww. Daryl needs to get together with someone else. Beth just seems too young for him.
I thought the same thing. This wasn't a good episode in my opinion. It could have been a lot better.
Then mentioned on the Talking Dead that this was the first episode to focus on just two main character. I understand that they needed to focus and develop the characters that hadn't been developed yet but I think it was a little boring. I mean they went into Michonne's background and it was boring at all. I agree that it could have been better.
I guess that they were hoping that countering an hour of Beth with an hour of Daryl would all even out.
Not their worst episode, but...0 -
If I was Daryl I would nail that blond girl.0
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You know a couple of things that bugged me about the moonshine:
A. That was supposed to be her first drink but she sucked it down like she has it every day for breakfast. I've never had moonshine, but I'm pretty sure it's got some burn.
I second this all the way!! My first drink when I was 16 was Zima and it still burned a little!! :laugh: :blushing:
My boyfriend's dad makes moonshine in the garage (along with beer and wine) and some of that stuff tastes like straight up rubbing alcohol. There's no way she could have been downing shots like that.
lol I live in Washington State, and I've had moonshine...albeit not the stuff that comes from Georgia....but still...I've been used to a few stiff drinks...but DAMN, throwing back that amount of 'shine, and not even a cough? or eyes watering??
I love watching the Talking Dead after, because they often catch things I miss...like the hanging Country club members, and the week prior with the "walker bomb" that Rick left behind. Seriously, I didn't catch that was the reason he opened the door...and kept thinking the guy that got choked out perhaps DID die and turn...I swear, sometimes *facepalm* lol
It was a slower going episode for sure..0 -
Mmkay, where do I start? (Sorry for being behind, but we just watched it last night.)
Oh, Beth. First off, there's this thing called acting where you pretend that glass of water you just drank is actually moonshine. I know it doesn't taste like water, but [jonlovitzvoice] ACTING! [/jonlovitzvoice]
My husband is from Georgia and said he had moonshine once. Apparently it wasn't that bad, but he said it would definitely evoke a sour face on and/or coughing from a newbie just like you'd see if she drank a straight tequila shot or Goldschlager or something equally harsh. That is even giving her the benefit of the doubt that this moonshine was quality and not of the tastes-like-rubbing-alcohol variety.
Second, acting, Beth. You've never had alcohol in your life, you have multiple shots of f-ing moonshine, and you're that coherent? I think not.
Third, I also totally thought she was trying to get Daryl to hook up with her. I'm glad he didn't because (1) ew, (2) statutory rape, and (3) possibly regular old rape given that she was (or would be under normal circumstances) extremely drunk and thus unable to consent. We all love Daryl too much for that.
Fourth, I love Daryl. He just grows in complexity with every extra minute we focus on him.
Fifth, WHY would they burn down the house instead of, I don't know, SLEEPING IN IT? And it is wicked smart to go off into the night while you're pissed off and wasted. Maybe that's the foreshadowing you're all mentioning - and it's possible additional foreshadowing when Beth asked Daryl if he'd ever gotten drunk and done anything he later regretted. Perhaps Beth will "break the seal" after all that drinking, causing her to have to stop and pee every ten minutes, and she gets attacked while she's popping a squat. Daryl, because he's a gentleman who does not take pleasure in watching young ladies pee, is too far away to save her. Then Daryl continues being awesome.
Phew, I think I covered everything.
Oh, except why didn't Beth go get more new clothes after her first set of new clothes were bloodied in the locker room? Why didn't Daryl at least pick himself up a nice pair of pants? Was he loading up on mints from the little bowls? Was that a map he took? What does he have against fuzzy navels, and who the f chops some lady in half and puts her torso on a mannequin?
Otherwise, a very boring episode but good for MST3K-style commentary.
Edited because my phone keeps autocorrecting "pee" to "per," which doesn't have the same effect.
EATA that if you were Beth, wouldn't you go into the ladies' to stock up on some feminine products? Usually the golf clubs have them sitting nicely in baskets on the counters. I know it doesn't make for great TV, but I'd find that pretty important in a zombie apocalypse.0 -
Fifth, WHY would they burn down the house instead of, I don't know, SLEEPING IN IT? And it is wicked smart to go off into the night while you're pissed off and wasted. Maybe that's the foreshadowing you're all mentioning - and it's possible additional foreshadowing when Beth asked Daryl if he'd ever gotten drunk and done anything he later regretted. Perhaps Beth will "break the seal" after all that drinking, causing her to have to stop and pee every ten minutes, and she gets attacked while she's popping a squat. Daryl, because he's a gentleman who does not take pleasure in watching young ladies pee, is too far away to save her. Then Daryl continues being awesome.
Yeah, this didn't make any damn sense to me either. There was nothing wrong with the house, and why would you waste all that moonshine? I mean, somebody else is sure to have come along "needing a drink." I thought it was kind of stupid, jerk-move on their parts.0 -
Fifth, WHY would they burn down the house instead of, I don't know, SLEEPING IN IT? And it is wicked smart to go off into the night while you're pissed off and wasted. Maybe that's the foreshadowing you're all mentioning - and it's possible additional foreshadowing when Beth asked Daryl if he'd ever gotten drunk and done anything he later regretted. Perhaps Beth will "break the seal" after all that drinking, causing her to have to stop and pee every ten minutes, and she gets attacked while she's popping a squat. Daryl, because he's a gentleman who does not take pleasure in watching young ladies pee, is too far away to save her. Then Daryl continues being awesome.
Yeah, this didn't make any damn sense to me either. There was nothing wrong with the house, and why would you waste all that moonshine? I mean, somebody else is sure to have come along "needing a drink." I thought it was kind of stupid, jerk-move on their parts.
THIS.....Seriously...I was a little miffed at the burning of the house...I get the Symbolism and all, but still....stupid. you could have had shelter for a bit, and some 'shine. WTF?!?!!0
