Should runners have "NRVs"?

davemunger
davemunger Posts: 1,139 Member
A big topic of interest on MFP is the "NSV" - non-scale victory. Like when you can fit into jeans a size smaller or someone flirts with you for the first time in years.

But what about runners -- should we celebrate "NRVs" -- Non-racing victories? Some sort of accomplishment that isn't a PR or a race win. Maybe it's the first time you ran with a group and weren't dropped. Or when you helped your friend move to a 3rd floor apartment and weren't huffing and puffing when you got to the top.

Or is that pointless and stupid? Is the only way to record running successes on the road / track / trail?

Discuss / share your own NRVs here!
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  • RunFarLiveHappy
    RunFarLiveHappy Posts: 805 Member
    Holy cow this is the total opposite of stupid and pointless! I get way too wrapped up in my own competitiveness with myself! I will eagerly track this thread looking to celebrate NRV with everyone!

    Recent one for me: running my last few training runs simply to log the miles and enjoy them. Not on a strict pace, mileage or time goal. They weren't throw away miles but they weren't the longest fastest runs and I'm okay with that! ????
  • thepetiterunner
    thepetiterunner Posts: 1,238 Member
    I *LOVE* this idea! It's great to celebrate the non-PR, non-race, everyday successes of other runners. I'm so looking forward to hearing other people's stories!


    As for me...
    I haven't gotten fitted for new running shoes in 3+ years, so yesterday I decided to treat myself to a trip to my favorite local running store. While I was testing out several pairs of running shoes, the sales guy, who also runs the good running form clinic offered on weekends by the store told me that I have a pretty efficient gait and my form was pretty good. I was so excited! Then of course, I got to go home with a new pair of running shoes, which was double great. Totally made my day.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    This isn't technically "racing," although it might sound like it, but my newly-discoverd NRV is going to a race and knowing I can smash it, but I hold myself back and just have effortless fun. For instance, running Pittsburgh at an 11:30 pace and my HR not going above 125 - yes, I was running for 2.5 hours, but I had time to appreciate the spirit of everything and watch others suffer around me. And 3 summers ago, I was the dude suffering at the 11:30 pace and walking/limping my *kitten* to the finish.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    And finding "the shoe." After 1.5 years of searching and getting fitted, I finally have the shoe that's meant for me. That's huge in my book :)

    My runnin' shooooooe
  • NorthCountryDreamer
    NorthCountryDreamer Posts: 115 Member
    I collect marathons.
  • DavidMartinez2
    DavidMartinez2 Posts: 840 Member
    Strava "segments" kind of do the same thing, allowing to you to celebrate beating your previous time or other runners on a part of a run.
  • saskie78
    saskie78 Posts: 237 Member
    Cool post. My most memorable NRV is being able to run all the way up a giant hill :)

    We have a giant hill here that our trail running group takes very often to start out our Thursday night group runs. It's called "Initiation Hill." We all start running. We get to initiation hill and everyone runs about half way up it and then starts walking inevitably, except for the hardcores. I remember the first time I ever got up Initiation hill without walking. It was seriously good stuff.
  • ZenInTexas
    ZenInTexas Posts: 781 Member
    I love this idea! Every time you go farther than you have before is a pretty big victory.
  • btsinmd
    btsinmd Posts: 921 Member
    This is kindof a race, but also not. I do flyball with my dogs. Fells is 3 years old and has been racing for 2 years. He also goes on many of my runs with me. I think that the combination of:
    -- me running faster with him multiple times per week
    -- that I am able to release him, sprint with him to the start/finish line, and then, after he turns from the box, sprint from the line to encourage him to run back faster; and do this 50 times over the weekend
    has made Fells faster.

    He's been doing his runs at an average of 7 seconds for two years. Last weekend his average was 6.5 seconds with multiple 6.3 second runs. I think that he can get even faster, too.
  • saskie78
    saskie78 Posts: 237 Member
    A big topic of interest on MFP is the "NSV" - non-scale victory. Like when you can fit into jeans a size smaller or someone flirts with you for the first time in years.

    Also, thanks, because I had no idea what NSV meant in the damn forums until you just defined it!
  • Linli_Anne
    Linli_Anne Posts: 1,360 Member
    I think this is a great idea; especially because I don't have the means to do as many actual races as I'd like most of my running victories/personal bests are simply from my pace/time/distance etc. recorded on my garmin during training/pleasure runs.
  • TheBrolympus
    TheBrolympus Posts: 586 Member
    Yes! You should celebrate "wins" however they may come.
  • _Josee_
    _Josee_ Posts: 625 Member
    For me it's when people come to me with questions about running. How to start and that kind of things... It always surprise me because half of the time I feel like I don't know what the hell I am doing LOL It's nice to know that some people think I am good enough at it to ask me for some advices :)
  • RunnerElizabeth
    RunnerElizabeth Posts: 1,091 Member
    My biggest NRV.... it takes me less time to run the 4.9 miles to work (pushing a jogging stroller) than it does to take the subway!

    Last year it took me the same or more time to travel by running and I only had the stamina to cut out 1 ride a week, averaging 4 rides right now.
  • Linli_Anne
    Linli_Anne Posts: 1,360 Member
    Since we are sharing.

    My recent NRV is shaving time off or my 5K running route. At the start of 2014 I ran the loop in 33:14 and I was pretty happy with that. Just the other week I did it in 27:41.
  • MelisRunning
    MelisRunning Posts: 819 Member
    I love this idea!

    My NRV is an ongoing one. Training for that 50K means adding distance each and every week on my long runs. Every week, I am exploring/experience distances that I have never accomplish running solo. This is different because in the past, I have always had a running buddy with me. I am having to find the determination within myself to push pass that barrier where my mind says, "Stop!" A new challenge each week. Woo-Hoo!
  • DymonNdaRgh40
    DymonNdaRgh40 Posts: 661 Member
    This is cool!

    There are a lot of hills around my job and on breaks and lunch I love to walk them. I don't have any hills where I live. So as I'm in the DollarTree (found cliff bars for $1 each) waiting in line I notice our CFO two people ahead of me. After making my purchase I head out and up the hill, I say hello as I pass him showing off the cliff bars I found and I'm off. I get back to work, clock in, and refill my water bottles before I finally notice him heading back to his office. "You set a mean pace!" he says. It makes me smile whenever I think of it.

    I'm also currently just enjoying my runs now as I'm just running for pleasure. I have a couple of races planned for the fall so I'm currently working on speed, trying different intervals, all while still simply taking it easy for now. It's been nice to have a race break.
  • saskie78
    saskie78 Posts: 237 Member
    I love this idea!

    My NRV is an ongoing one. Training for that 50K means adding distance each and every week on my long runs. Every week, I am exploring/experience distances that I have never accomplish running solo. This is different because in the past, I have always had a running buddy with me. I am having to find the determination within myself to push pass that barrier where my mind says, "Stop!" A new challenge each week. Woo-Hoo!

    I really like this one :)
  • tappae
    tappae Posts: 568 Member
    Great idea!

    I had a NRV last year while doing battle with a large patch of ivy with my sling blade. In the past, I would have had to take a lot of breaks while doing this, but because of my increased aerobic fitness, I was able to swing that blade steadily for over an hour without getting my heart rate up much at all.

    And last week, the former division 1 athlete (and insufferable know-it-all) at my work admitted that I was a better runner than him and listened to my advice for how he could improve!
  • k1214
    k1214 Posts: 33 Member
    My NRV's are also my NSV's since I'm fairly new to running (I joined this group to learn and be inspired :smile: ). I finished my first half on March 30th and my first 10 miler this past Sunday. Now I have a baseline time to beat for the next time...because there will be more!
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    I got half way up on a pull up today...that is the best I have ever done in my whole life lol.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    On my cruise, I got up. Did the Disney 5k. Went back to my room. Took care of my preschoolers. Hauled everybody to the beach. Played with them in the sand. Did the 5k route on a bike with my 4-year-old behind me. Got everybody down for a nap and packed for Miami. Never would have been able to do that without running. I totally agree with Marc Parent when he said "running doesn't get easier. It's Life that gets easier.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    This is kindof a race, but also not. I do flyball with my dogs. Fells is 3 years old and has been racing for 2 years. He also goes on many of my runs with me. I think that the combination of:
    -- me running faster with him multiple times per week
    -- that I am able to release him, sprint with him to the start/finish line, and then, after he turns from the box, sprint from the line to encourage him to run back faster; and do this 50 times over the weekend
    has made Fells faster.

    He's been doing his runs at an average of 7 seconds for two years. Last weekend his average was 6.5 seconds with multiple 6.3 second runs. I think that he can get even faster, too.

    This makes my inner tail wag. How cool is that?
  • redredy9
    redredy9 Posts: 706 Member
    Love this. I had a NRV a few weeks ago during a 10 mile training run. I just felt amazing. Like I could run fast and far.

    The next weekends 12 was rough but that 10 was perfect!
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    Love this. I had a NRV a few weeks ago during a 10 mile training run. I just felt amazing. Like I could run fast and far.

    The next weekends 12 was rough but that 10 was perfect!

    The worst part about having a good run like that is having to end it when you feel like you can go further, but know you shouldn't and/or don't need to.
  • HermioneDanger118
    HermioneDanger118 Posts: 345 Member
    And finding "the shoe." After 1.5 years of searching and getting fitted, I finally have the shoe that's meant for me. That's huge in my book :)

    My runnin' shooooooe

    Yes!! I have loved the Nike Vomero+ 7s and they're discontinued. I found a spare pair the other day on eBay. :)
  • Zekela
    Zekela Posts: 634 Member
    NRV: when a long run is over 20 miles... When just starting out a mile would be considered an ultra run... Lol
  • jturnerx
    jturnerx Posts: 325 Member
    I paced a friend last weekend to her first 100k finish. This is a really tough race with over 12,000 feet of gain and descent. I came in during the last 12 miles and she had been fighting cut offs all day. She had a 5 minute cushion at the first cut-off then was right at the cut off when I picked her up. The aid station captain even encouraged me to go up the trail to pace her in because she was coming in by the skin of her teeth. I managed to create a 5 minute cushion again at the penultimate cut off but the final cut off was at the very top of a 2.5 mile, 1200 foot climb. We just had no wiggle room and she was cooked. I was pushing her so hard toward the end of the last climb. I could tell she wanted to screaming at me and throwing me off the mountain but there nothing to be done about it. She was either going to get pulled or let go to finish but regardless I wanted her to go down swinging. But we got let through thank goodness because there was a park ranger up there ready to enforce the cut off. They were not messing around.

    That was one of the most stressful and rewarding running related thing I've ever done.
  • GiddyupTim
    GiddyupTim Posts: 2,819 Member
    I was able to run a couple of 8-minute-miles today. I haven't been able to do that for two or three years due to surgery, rehab, and niggling, recovery-related injuries.
    Was QUITE fun!
  • amandamurdaugh
    amandamurdaugh Posts: 138 Member
    Just in the last month, I've been able to run 4 separate sub 7 min miles. That's a personal victory for me.