High miles or low and hard?
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Not to hijack this thread, but I have a question along these lines for those of you that prefer to run high miles at a slower pace. Is it sometimes an effort for you to run at a slow pace? Or do you just go out at whatever pace feels comfortable? I know there should be more of a gap between my race pace and the pace of my training runs, but even when I make an effort to slow down, within a few minutes I always find myself back at that "comfortable" pace. It's making me wonder if maybe I should just be pushing myself harder in races.
I don't think of it as running slow. It's running easy. I gauge it by the effort that I put forth, which has been backed up by HRM data. Some days easy effort is 10:30 per mile, some days it's 8:30 per mile, but how it feels is essentially the same. It just depends on how rested and recovered I am that day.
Have you run a good, hard, 5K lately where you have felt like you are going to puke when you cross the finish line? If not, you should. Then use those results to plug into the McMillan calculator to see where you easy run pace should be.0 -
I don't think of it as running slow. It's running easy.
^^This. The more experienced I've become the more I've relied on perceived effort rather than tied to a particular pace when it comes to the easy runs.0 -
Not to hijack this thread, but I have a question along these lines for those of you that prefer to run high miles at a slower pace. Is it sometimes an effort for you to run at a slow pace? Or do you just go out at whatever pace feels comfortable? I know there should be more of a gap between my race pace and the pace of my training runs, but even when I make an effort to slow down, within a few minutes I always find myself back at that "comfortable" pace. It's making me wonder if maybe I should just be pushing myself harder in races.
I don't think of it as running slow. It's running easy. I gauge it by the effort that I put forth, which has been backed up by HRM data. Some days easy effort is 10:30 per mile, some days it's 8:30 per mile, but how it feels is essentially the same. It just depends on how rested and recovered I am that day.
Have you run a good, hard, 5K lately where you have felt like you are going to puke when you cross the finish line? If not, you should. Then use those results to plug into the McMillan calculator to see where you easy run pace should be.
I have a 5K planned for Saturday. My first since March. It was intended to be a fun run with a friend, but maybe I will turn it on and see how it goes.0 -
Just wondering what is everyones' philosophy on training?
I am personally In the build as many base miles that I can slowly and do long runs up to 20 (maybe 22 shhh) miles as part of my marathon training.
I know some of you follow the Hansom type of philosphy or the run less miles approach (but harder).
I am just curious what everyone does and why.
A large number of raining plans are based on the concepts publicized by Arthur Lydiard, a coach from New Zealand whose runners dominated long distance running in the 1960's. Plans that follow his tenets use, roughly speaking, "80/10/10" where 80% of your weekly mileage is at a pace about 90 seconds slower than marathon/half marathon pace; 10% are "tempo" runs; and the other 10% is sprint work.
In addition to the free plans from Runner's World, I've used a training plan from Greg McMillan (Google "You only faster") and I highly recommend it.0 -
I don't think of it as running slow. It's running easy.
^^This. The more experienced I've become the more I've relied on perceived effort rather than tied to a particular pace when it comes to the easy runs.
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I always forget that speed is relative, HR/effort is not0
