1x9 w/ no chain guide - trouble?

jacksonpt
jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
I'm putting gears on my SS for a race in 3 weeks and I'm trying to keep it fairly low budget. I'm using a cassette (sram 11-28) and deraileur (x9) from my spare parts bin, and bought a x5 shifter.

My local trails are pretty rough/technical and I'm wondering about dropping the chain off the front ring... Am I asking for trouble running this setup (with Truvativ Stylo cranks/32T ring) without any type of chain guide? I know 1xs are pretty common now, but I'm running an older crank/ring that was intended for SS use.

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  • Chain_Ring
    Chain_Ring Posts: 753 Member
    Since you're going low budget, a great way to do a chain guide is get a fairly thick Zip Tie and put it around your down tube so that it barely leaves enough room between the chain and the tube. Keeps the chainsuck away............... If the chain is falling off the other direction, you gotta get a longer cage der. or simply remove some chainlinks.
  • lpherman01
    lpherman01 Posts: 212 Member
    Shorten your chain to the least length it can be so that your derailleur will keep the maximum tension on it. If that is not enough and you don't want to run a chain guide, then other parts to keep it in place are a chain catcher on the inside and a bash guard on the outside. Both can be had for less than $80 total.
  • sinker59
    sinker59 Posts: 130
    New 'narrow-wide' chain rings are designed to be run with no guide. I have the RaceFace version and it works great.
    http://www.jensonusa.com/!fmidiWe7EC4OTBzEl5P!tA!/Race-Face-Single-Narrow-Wide-Chainring?utm_source=FRGL&utm_medium=organic&gclid=CPfsj8CT578CFWho7AodU00AeQ
  • lpherman01
    lpherman01 Posts: 212 Member
    New 'narrow-wide' chain rings are designed to be run with no guide. I have the RaceFace version and it works great.

    That's brilliant. Makes perfect sense.
  • TheBrolympus
    TheBrolympus Posts: 586 Member
    If you have a spare front derailer you can put it on the front and use the limits to lock it in place. It's ugly but it works.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    If you have a spare front derailer you can put it on the front and use the limits to lock it in place. It's ugly but it works.

    I do, and I thought about taking my dremmel to it so it would act as a chain guide but not create a bunch of annoy chain slap. It's a last ditch option.

    I was looking at a Paul's chain keeper, but I can't tell how well it would work with a bash guard. I ordered one of these to try (only $10)

    Georgia_Gould_Orbea_CX_jump_stop-500-90-500-70.jpg


    If that doesn't work I'll look into the wide/narrow chain ring.
  • sinker59
    sinker59 Posts: 130
    Georgia_Gould_Orbea_CX_jump_stop-500-90-500-70.jpg

    DuraAce on a mtn bike? I love it!!
  • sinker59
    sinker59 Posts: 130
    Before switching to the narrow-wide I used an N-Gear Jump Stop and a bash guard with no problems. The narrow-wide is just much cleaner, and I don't 'bash' into much stuff anyway.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Georgia_Gould_Orbea_CX_jump_stop-500-90-500-70.jpg

    DuraAce on a mtn bike? I love it!!

    lol... I didn't even notice. Not my setup, just a random sample pic from the net.
  • TheBrolympus
    TheBrolympus Posts: 586 Member
    Here is my 1x9 with the ghetto derailer.

    1-20140728_145747_resized.jpg

    I had the crank pulled and just threw it back in so ignore that the other side of the crank is missing.

    Without the derailer I would lose my chain quite a bit when riding. Especially on bumpy downhill sections, I would hit the bottom and spin with no chain.
  • sinker59
    sinker59 Posts: 130
    Here's the RaceFace Narrow/Wide on my Niner. The bike's dirty, but the setup is clean!
    RF01_zps71deed7a.jpg
    RF02_zpsba0374eb.jpg
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Nice. I stopped into my LBS last night and they recommended the same setup vs a chain guide. Unfortunately they had to order the ring (nothing like the small town LBS), but it should be here Tuesday.
  • TheBrolympus
    TheBrolympus Posts: 586 Member
    @sinker59, that looks fantastic!
  • sinker59
    sinker59 Posts: 130
    @sinker59, that looks fantastic!

    It really is a 'no muss, no fuss' solution. I don't really need a bashguard as most of our trails aren't all that technical. The narrow/wide just works great; I haven't dropped my chain since the install a few months ago.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Got in about 12 miles tonight with the Jump Stop... worked like a charm.

    jumpstop.jpg
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Picked up and installed the narrow/wide chainring last night. Fail. Due to the longer teeth and different offset, there isn't enough clearance at the chainstay.

    #customframeproblems
  • sinker59
    sinker59 Posts: 130
    That's a shame, hope you can return it. On the other hand, there's really nothing wrong with the Jump Stop.