Give us your tired, your poor.... Sike!

dexter11233

Atkins's VS Cal Counting... GO! Jk...

Should the current U.S immigration laws be enforced in the united states? What about the methods used to reduce so-called illegal immigration?

Basically open immigration vs restricted.

kapeluza

Aren't they enforced already?

dexter11233

Basically open immigration vs restricted. Sorry, needed a little clarification there.

iAMaPhoenix

First of all, let us start deporting the first illegal aliens to this country...The white man. After we do that, then we can have a debate with the Native Americans as to their opinion on Immigration.

SkateboardFi

First of all, let us start deporting the first illegal aliens to this country...The white man. After we do that, then we can have a debate with the Native Americans as to their opinion on Immigration.

lmao that sounds kinda bitter but i sort of agree with the general message that you're saying. i think people tend to forget that the main composition of america is made up of immigrants; granted it was a long time ago, but nonetheless..

kendernau

Why limit immigration? We just need to add a couple of additional requirements, like many other countries have.
- To immigrate, you have to be able to show that you can support yourself, or have someone that is willing to commit to supporting you.
- To stay after a certain point, you have to be able to show that you are a legitimate, contributing member to our country - through paying taxes, serving in our armed forces, or something similar.

Exceptions are able to be made for political refugees, the disabled, and other similar situations on a case-by-case situation. As illegal immigrants are found, they should be given the option to become legitimate (including starting to pay taxes). The only people who should be absolutely refused are those that can be shown to be a threat to the US - through professed views (anti-American terrorists), or who have been convicted of violent offenses in other countries.

On a related note, I would like to see the "anchor baby" syndrome be fixed. Make it a requirement that at least one parent must be a citizen at the time the child is born before the child can automatically be a citizen by birth. If not, they gain the same status as the parents - if they are green card holders, the baby gets a green card, etc. This will cut down on people circumventing the system by sneaking into the country, having a baby, then trying to use the baby to get citizenship/stay in the country.

Bahet

First of all, let us start deporting the first illegal aliens to this country...The white man. After we do that, then we can have a debate with the Native Americans as to their opinion on Immigration.

Really? What law did they violate? You can't be an illegal immigrant if there is no law against immigration.

I am a Native American. I was born here. My parents were born here. My grandparents were born here. My great grandparents were either born here or came here legally. If I am not a native of America then where?

The problem isn't with the word immigration, it's the illegal part.

dragonbait0126

First of all, let us start deporting the first illegal aliens to this country...The white man. After we do that, then we can have a debate with the Native Americans as to their opinion on Immigration.

Really? What law did they violate? You can't be an illegal immigrant if there is no law against immigration.

I am a Native American. I was born here. My parents were born here. My grandparents were born here. My great grandparents were either born here or came here legally. If I am not a native of America then where?

The problem isn't with the word immigration, it's the illegal part.

I agree with you on parts of this. Completely with you that because there were no "laws" at the time the pilgrams came over they are not considered illegal immigrants as opposed to simply immigrants. I would not consider you to be "Native American" but rather American (the same as me). The difference being that the term Native American is used to classify Indians (the people who were here before Columbus "discovered" America). While you may be a native of America, for classification purposes you would not be considered a Native American. Oy I hope that makes sense.

On the original topic, I have no issue with people wanting to come here for a better life. What I DO have an issue with is people coming here and taking advantage of the system, which unfortunately is what is happening with the whole illegal immigration issue whether it's not paying taxes or whatever else. If I were going to move to Canada I would not sneak into the country, I would find out what their laws are and then abide by them to become a citizen of Canada. I am of the opinion that if you want to live in another country then you should have respect for that country's laws regardless of what hoops and hurdles you have to jump through to get there.

Bahet

I was being sarcastic with the "Native American" bit. I realize sarcasm doesn't come across well in print though. :laugh:

dragonbait0126

I was being sarcastic with the "Native American" bit. I realize sarcasm doesn't come across well in print though. :laugh:

haha. Totally didn't even read that as sarcastic and I'm one of the most sarcastic people around. I take back my educational speech then and agree with you.