Party Line Voters
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I look at Santorum's campaign--in many ways, he seemed to have "popular mandate" of much of the electorate, but he was overwhelmed by Romney's financial advantage.
I strongly disagree. Santorum may have appeared to be the belle of the ball, but that was in a small, but vocal, minority. There was no way he ever could have won the general election. Money, in my opinion, didn't factor in. Santorum was just far too extreme in his beliefs.0 -
Someone else already pointed out that the economy is improving by showing how the Dow has adjusted. Unemployment has also droppd steadily since mid 2009.I didn't vote for Obama last time but I will this time simply because the alternative will completely destroy the economy for everyone who isn't already wealthy. Romney is so far out of touch with reality for the vast majority of Americans that it's downright frightening. I guess he can't see us from way up there in his ivory tower.
What really gets me about Romney is the way some of the situations are being handled. Clinton had an affair and every Republican demanded to know the full details. They were appalled and wanted to impeach him for lying about it. But Romney has an undisclosed Swiss bank account and no one is saying anything?? That's tax evasion!! The only reason I can guess as to why he's not being brought up on charges is that it's because he has millions, not thousands or hundreds, in hidden money.
Wow interesting take. It makes no sense. On one hand you have a guy that doesn't understand the middle class and has hidden money essentially stealing money from the government. But you are willing to vote for a guy who has only made the economy worse and instead of stealing from the government he steals from the populace to do the bidding of the government. If I had to choose Id rather have a guy that steals from the government not the people.
I'm not sure how you figure Obama is "stealing from the populace" either but would love to hear why you think that. In actuality taxes have dropped for everyone except those making over $200,000/yr every year Obama has been in office.
You say you'd rather vote for the person who will take less money from the peole. Then you'll be voting Obama too. Unless you are in the top 10% of wage earners. Romney's proposed tax cuts will only really benefit the top 10% and corporations. Afterall, corporations are people too. I do know that he fully intends to raise taxes for the bottom 20%.0 -
I look at Santorum's campaign--in many ways, he seemed to have "popular mandate" of much of the electorate, but he was overwhelmed by Romney's financial advantage.
I strongly disagree. Santorum may have appeared to be the belle of the ball, but that was in a small, but vocal, minority. There was no way he ever could have won the general election. Money, in my opinion, didn't factor in. Santorum was just far too extreme in his beliefs.
One could make the argument that there is no such thing as "too extreme" in a republican primary. But you could be right--I am not going to pretend that I followed his campaign in great detail. But it seemed like there were a number of states in which he held substantial early leads and then was overwhelmed once the Romney money flowed in and financed a carpet bombing of negative ads.
I suppose it could just be that the more people got to know Santorum, the less they liked him. But it's hard to imagine anyone choosing Romney because they really like him and his (this minute) positions.0 -
Someone else already pointed out that the economy is improving by showing how the Dow has adjusted. Unemployment has also droppd steadily since mid 2009.I didn't vote for Obama last time but I will this time simply because the alternative will completely destroy the economy for everyone who isn't already wealthy. Romney is so far out of touch with reality for the vast majority of Americans that it's downright frightening. I guess he can't see us from way up there in his ivory tower.
What really gets me about Romney is the way some of the situations are being handled. Clinton had an affair and every Republican demanded to know the full details. They were appalled and wanted to impeach him for lying about it. But Romney has an undisclosed Swiss bank account and no one is saying anything?? That's tax evasion!! The only reason I can guess as to why he's not being brought up on charges is that it's because he has millions, not thousands or hundreds, in hidden money.
Wow interesting take. It makes no sense. On one hand you have a guy that doesn't understand the middle class and has hidden money essentially stealing money from the government. But you are willing to vote for a guy who has only made the economy worse and instead of stealing from the government he steals from the populace to do the bidding of the government. If I had to choose Id rather have a guy that steals from the government not the people.
I'm not sure how you figure Obama is "stealing from the populace" either but would love to hear why you think that. In actuality taxes have dropped for everyone except those making over $200,000/yr every year Obama has been in office.
You say you'd rather vote for the person who will take less money from the peole. Then you'll be voting Obama too. Unless you are in the top 10% of wage earners. Romney's proposed tax cuts will only really benefit the top 10% and corporations. Afterall, corporations are people too. I do know that he fully intends to raise taxes for the bottom 20%.
I don't think that taxes have increased for anyone just yet. For all the talk about raising taxes on top wage earners, no legislation has actually been passed to do so.0 -
Actually, they dropped a tiny bit too. But it wasn't a substantial amount so I didn't bother including it. Although, since Romney fans seem so concerned about having the government take care of the wealthy, I suppose I should have included that fact.
Someone else already pointed out that the economy is improving by showing how the Dow has adjusted. Unemployment has also droppd steadily since mid 2009.I didn't vote for Obama last time but I will this time simply because the alternative will completely destroy the economy for everyone who isn't already wealthy. Romney is so far out of touch with reality for the vast majority of Americans that it's downright frightening. I guess he can't see us from way up there in his ivory tower.
What really gets me about Romney is the way some of the situations are being handled. Clinton had an affair and every Republican demanded to know the full details. They were appalled and wanted to impeach him for lying about it. But Romney has an undisclosed Swiss bank account and no one is saying anything?? That's tax evasion!! The only reason I can guess as to why he's not being brought up on charges is that it's because he has millions, not thousands or hundreds, in hidden money.
Wow interesting take. It makes no sense. On one hand you have a guy that doesn't understand the middle class and has hidden money essentially stealing money from the government. But you are willing to vote for a guy who has only made the economy worse and instead of stealing from the government he steals from the populace to do the bidding of the government. If I had to choose Id rather have a guy that steals from the government not the people.
I'm not sure how you figure Obama is "stealing from the populace" either but would love to hear why you think that. In actuality taxes have dropped for everyone except those making over $200,000/yr every year Obama has been in office.
You say you'd rather vote for the person who will take less money from the peole. Then you'll be voting Obama too. Unless you are in the top 10% of wage earners. Romney's proposed tax cuts will only really benefit the top 10% and corporations. Afterall, corporations are people too. I do know that he fully intends to raise taxes for the bottom 20%.
I don't think that taxes have increased for anyone just yet. For all the talk about raising taxes on top wage earners, no legislation has actually been passed to do so.0 -
So is the economy really improving just because the Dow is up and unemployment is down? What about the fact that the nation debt continues to skyrocket? Does no one think that is going to eventually catch up and put us in a worse place than we are now?
"(CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency. The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion on President Bush's last day in office, which coincided with President Obama's first day."
"Mr. Obama doesn't mention the National Debt much, though he does want to be seen trying to reduce the annual budget deficit, though it's topped a trillion dollars for four years now. As part of his "Win the Future" program, Mr. Obama called for "taking responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending wherever we find it." His latest budget projects a $1.3 trillion deficit this year declining to $901 billion in 2012, and then annual deficits in the range of $500 billion to $700 billion in the 10 years to come. If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms."0 -
Azdak, can you make an arguement without name calling or stereotyping an individual or group you do not agree with? It really makes your arguement juvenile.
I'm sorry to say I agree with him. 'Name Calling' can be appropriate and this year's republican primary WAS a carnival.
I mean the witch woman was taken seriously for a time! REALLY!
I think having all open primaries would help solve that, or finding a way to get EVERYONE involved in the primary process, not just the general election, but until there is a more informed electorate FIRED UP TO VOTE that won't happen and we will be stuck with what we get in the primaries.0
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