Logic and Christianity
I promised, well, no one that I would make this thread, and in fact, promised that if I did, it would be boring. However, numerous statements regarding the inherent illogic of Christianity seem worth addressing.
First, some questions. Who believes that Christians are illogical, and why? What logic is violated? Is the violation somehow contained in mere theism, or the existance of miracles, or just that darn book itself?
Leibnizian Cosmological Argument
1) Anything that exists has an explanation of its existence, either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause
2) If the universe has an explanation of its existence, that explanation is God
3) The universe exists.
4) Therefore, the universe has an explanation of its existence.
5) There, the explanation of the existence of the universe is God.
Now, this is plain old propositional logic, with true premises, conclusions that follow the premises, and conclusions that are more plausible then their denials. It might not be completely persuasive, but it is logically valid.
Moral Argument
1) If God did not exist, objective moral values would not exist
2) Objective moral values do exist.
3) Therefore, God exists.
I think it is fairly easy to premise the existence of God in any number of logical ways. Peoples devotion of the idea of a true moral base is certainly one of them.
From the premise that God is at the center of the universe, and its creation, then comes the notion that whatever observed uniformity (or natural laws) also come from God. And, then, the notion that if there is ever a change in that uniformity (a miracle), that would also come from God. Really, if you premise a universe in God, then miracles are not an issue, and the only problem is why are they not more frequent? And, the answer, of course is that they, like natural laws, are purposeful, not random. In fact, the creation of man, his apparent free will, the bible, and the meaning of life, is purposeful, not random.
If this sort of thing is of interest to anyone, I can continue on to other objections to the logic of God, or will happily even debate over any of the above points. This is just a quick swipe at the subject, to see if there are any bits. Thanks.
