locker rooms
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I will admit to checking eveyone out. LOL
thank GOD i'm not the only one who does this...and the girlies just get naked even though there's dressing rooms...hellooo boobies!
I think I need to go to the locker rooms YOU are going too because the ladies that walk around naked aren't anything I want to check out at MY gym! LOL0 -
LOL me too!!I will admit to checking eveyone out. LOL0 -
I can't count the number of times I've been called "sir." I don't let that stop me. There's no room at home for equipment, so to the gym I go! Heck with them...I do change in the stall though
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i just want to say to all of my butch-identified and more masculine presenting brothers and sisters, please don't stop being visible!
a. you're sexy as hell
b. you're brave as hell
c. you've got the visibility that's powerful enough to make people realize that gender has many possibilities.
short of wearing a pink triangle on my clothes at all times, it's hard for me to be visibly "out" in the world, so i just wanted to say thank you to those who are. you are all awesome.0 -
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From the male perspective, it can be very embarrasing for us not to immediately know the correct gender!
I'm a ticket inspector on the trains in the UK. Quite often on a very busy train when I have to work quickly I sometimes say "Thank you, Sir" when taking their ticket only to look at them again after stamping it to see that it's a woman (usually with short hair, football shirts/hoodies, tattoos etc)... I try not to make a big thing of it and will say "Thank you, Miss" when giving it back.
Obviously, there is NOTHING wrong with choosing to dress like that. But it's embarrasing for me when I make the mistake.
How would you feel if I refered to you as "Sir"? Am I correcting myself in the correct way? Do you think I should do anything better?! I'd love to hear from you! x0 -
How would you feel if I refered to you as "Sir"? Am I correcting myself in the correct way? Do you think I should do anything better?! I'd love to hear from you! x
This is a tough one since not every wants to be labeled as male/female or sir/ma'am. You could offend a pre-op FTM, genderqueer, etc.
When people call me "sir" and realize I'm not, they start to apologize profusely and I can see how embarrassed they are. I'm an extremely shy person and so them realizing and apologizing makes me feel even MORE embarrassed than being called "sir".
I'd just go with your gut if you need to use sir/ma'am. I think those people that are bothered by it will actually correct you.0 -
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How would you feel if I refered to you as "Sir"? Am I correcting myself in the correct way? Do you think I should do anything better?! I'd love to hear from you! x
I usually tend to find it funny when someone thinks I'm a male, but I definitely understand where some people would be deeply offended. I don't know if there's really a graceful save on this one; it's just plain awkward for both people involved.
My advice would be to try not to make too big a deal of it. When my hair was a lot shorter, a lady called me 'sir,' apologized about five times when she realized her mistake, and then started ranting at me about how I should dress more like a girl and stop wearing hats because it confused people. I wasn't embarrassed, I was just pissed off that she was causing a scene.i just want to say to all of my butch-identified and more masculine presenting brothers and sisters, please don't stop being visible!
a. you're sexy as hell
b. you're brave as hell
c. you've got the visibility that's powerful enough to make people realize that gender has many possibilities.
short of wearing a pink triangle on my clothes at all times, it's hard for me to be visibly "out" in the world, so i just wanted to say thank you to those who are. you are all awesome.
You rock. 0 -
From the male perspective, it can be very embarrasing for us not to immediately know the correct gender!
I'm a ticket inspector on the trains in the UK. Quite often on a very busy train when I have to work quickly I sometimes say "Thank you, Sir" when taking their ticket only to look at them again after stamping it to see that it's a woman (usually with short hair, football shirts/hoodies, tattoos etc)... I try not to make a big thing of it and will say "Thank you, Miss" when giving it back.
Obviously, there is NOTHING wrong with choosing to dress like that. But it's embarrasing for me when I make the mistake.
How would you feel if I refered to you as "Sir"? Am I correcting myself in the correct way? Do you think I should do anything better?! I'd love to hear from you! x
From a pre-op perspective, I don't know that I am offended if someone uses the wrong pronoun accidentally, just disappointed. But I know the limitations of how well I pass. When people use the right pronoun I hear it every time and it can brighten the darkest night. Just do your best, be respectful, apologize simply and without much fuss if you get it wrong. That's the best you can do.
It's even harder to get names and pronouns right when someone you know transitions since you have a history with the prior gender. A person I have known for years is transitioning now. I sometimes struggle to get it right and I'm trans too. The experience has taught me to be patient with others.0 -
Seriously, if I'm looking at you, I'm probably checking you out. :laugh: But I understand some people don't want to be checked out like that, so I'm just going to keep my eyes to myself now. :sad:
Right... I'll just be more subtle now. Now whattttttttttt.
j/k. I really will try to stop checking people out.
Just in locker rooms, right? XD
this made me laugh.
But seriously, as long as you're not being obvious or creepy, EVERYONE at least glances over. Its not even really a sexual thing. You just gotta look. And in my case be like "my boobs are the best in this room *fist pump*" because its the small victories in life that matter.
So we just recently joined a gym and it is odd when people change right out in the open when there are dressing areas... but whatever! I keep to myself - but our aerobics instructor was asking us (in the locker room) how we liked the class and while we were talking, she just stripped down - awkward! How can you not look when you have it staring you in the face... I did not need to see that! Have a little modesty! I guess it would not have been so bad if she had a rockin' bod - but no! not that lucky...0 -
I usually tend to find it funny when someone thinks I'm a male, but I definitely understand where some people would be deeply offended. I don't know if there's really a graceful save on this one; it's just plain awkward for both people involved.
My advice would be to try not to make too big a deal of it. When my hair was a lot shorter, a lady called me 'sir,' apologized about five times when she realized her mistake, and then started ranting at me about how I should dress more like a girl and stop wearing hats because it confused people. I wasn't embarrassed, I was just pissed off that she was causing a scene.
I try to not make a big deal out of it, so at least I'm doing something right! I certainly wouldn't tell you what not to wear. I'll leave that for Gok Wan! :laugh:0 -
From a pre-op perspective, I don't know that I am offended if someone uses the wrong pronoun accidentally, just disappointed. But I know the limitations of how well I pass. When people use the right pronoun I hear it every time and it can brighten the darkest night. Just do your best, be respectful, apologize simply and without much fuss if you get it wrong. That's the best you can do.
It's even harder to get names and pronouns right when someone you know transitions since you have a history with the prior gender. A person I have known for years is transitioning now. I sometimes struggle to get it right and I'm trans too. The experience has taught me to be patient with others.
Although I'm an out gay man, I don't know any Pre/Post-op TS/TG, Cross Dressers etc etc and now I come to think about it I don't know how to address people who aren't blatently trying to be perceived as an alternative gender. If they're androgynous I'd probably just say "Thank you"...
Would you be bothered if I didn't refer to you as a gender? Any advice on what I should say?! thanks! x 0 -
It's totally fine with me to do away with sir or miss. Although, like I said, getting called 'Miss' totally makes my day. But with me you'd never be confused about which gender I'm going for. I don't do androgynous. Not that I have a problem with others looking androgynous, but it just doesn't fit me.0
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Would you be bothered if I didn't refer to you as a gender? Any advice on what I should say?! thanks! x
I never really grew up saying "sir" or "ma'am" anyway. I'd address people by their names, when I knew it, but then people get offended, if you butcher their name, too.... :blushing: Other than that, I usually said, hey, hi, thank you, you're welcome, etc..., looking into their eyes while doing so.0 -
I will admit to checking eveyone out. LOL
thank GOD i'm not the only one who does this...and the girlies just get naked even though there's dressing rooms...hellooo boobies!
I think I need to go to the locker rooms YOU are going too because the ladies that walk around naked aren't anything I want to check out at MY gym! LOL
Come to the campus gym.
O-Yeah gotta love the pool locker room!! 0 -
The english language is sucky wiht its need for gendered greetings, pronouns everywhere, etc. It can't really be helped - I think very few people get offended as they are generally understanding of this kind of thing. In some ways its worse if you make a big deal out of it (like someone called my friend sir once which we all just thought was funny but he was soooo embarrassed and apologized etc etc. That was WAY more awkward than if he'd just let it lie).0
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