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Vagina
KaleidoscopeEyes1056
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Ah, not having mods all over the place makes me happy on the inside.
Anyway, getting to the real topic, I found this article about a representative from the Michigan HoR using the word "Vagina" while discussing legislation about abortion. She was banned from speaking about a bill on school employee retirement.
Read article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/michigan-politician-banned-using-word-vagina
My question is: why is it considered vulgar to say the word "vagina"? If they were discussing a topic on male reproductive organs (not that they ever would, as men are not second class citizens like we women are...) would they be able to use the word "penis?"
Another question: What are some suggestions for the Michigan HoR to use instead of "Vagina?"
I am really looking forward to responses to this question... :laugh:
Anyway, getting to the real topic, I found this article about a representative from the Michigan HoR using the word "Vagina" while discussing legislation about abortion. She was banned from speaking about a bill on school employee retirement.
Read article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/michigan-politician-banned-using-word-vagina
My question is: why is it considered vulgar to say the word "vagina"? If they were discussing a topic on male reproductive organs (not that they ever would, as men are not second class citizens like we women are...) would they be able to use the word "penis?"
Another question: What are some suggestions for the Michigan HoR to use instead of "Vagina?"
I am really looking forward to responses to this question... :laugh:
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:laugh: I just laughed at that. I'm a very conservative right-wing Christian and even I call what women have a vagina. I just shake my head when I hear someone call it some weird name. My daughter always knew she has a vagina and my son always knew he has a penis. They are not dirty words.0
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I heard about that. It's got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Ironically, the guy who was offended by the word vagina is a real d!ckhead.0
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I propose that all politicians start ending their speeches in their respective legislatures with, "And in conclusion, penis. Thank you."0
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I propose that all politicians start ending their speeches in their respective legislatures with, "And in conclusion, penis. Thank you."
My religion teacher was talking to us about Freud's views on religion, which included some of his work in psychology. One of his psychological theories was about the Oedipus complex (I don't know what version of Oedipus he read, either, because I have read Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrranus and in that play, Oedipus does not intentionally kill his father or marry his mother)
ANYWAY and another topic was penis envy. So, to begin the class he stood at the front of the room, told us what to expect and tried to ease us into it by saying (direct quote): "Penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis and penis." It made me laugh like a high schooler. :laugh:
Now, for the part I've been eagerly awaiting: Does anybody have any suggestions as to what we could call the vagina, since some of us are sensitive to, well, medical terminology? Make me laugh.0 -
realistically, the problem was probably more that she referenced her own vagina. They can say it was the word itself all they want, but I really think they just didn't want to be reminded that vaginas..I mean women..are allowed to hold office.0
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I propose that all politicians start ending their speeches in their respective legislatures with, "And in conclusion, penis. Thank you."
My religion teacher was talking to us about Freud's views on religion, which included some of his work in psychology. One of his psychological theories was about the Oedipus complex (I don't know what version of Oedipus he read, either, because I have read Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrranus and in that play, Oedipus does not intentionally kill his father or marry his mother)
ANYWAY and another topic was penis envy. So, to begin the class he stood at the front of the room, told us what to expect and tried to ease us into it by saying (direct quote): "Penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis and penis." It made me laugh like a high schooler. :laugh:
Now, for the part I've been eagerly awaiting: Does anybody have any suggestions as to what we could call the vagina, since some of us are sensitive to, well, medical terminology? Make me laugh.
the bearded clam?
the slanted clam
the pit of despair0 -
It wasn't the word vagina being used. It was that the people attempting to speak HAVE a vagina. How dare a mere woman speak on such subjects as regulating her body. Some of these clowns thing women shouldn't even have the right to vote, much less be lawmakers, simply because of what is between their legs, rather than between their ears.
Vote Democrat.0 -
Americans are just screwed up when it comes to discussing the nether regions. Remember the Hooha Monologues?
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/36594-no-vaginas-please-were-floridian0 -
I propose that all politicians start ending their speeches in their respective legislatures with, "And in conclusion, penis. Thank you."
My religion teacher was talking to us about Freud's views on religion, which included some of his work in psychology. One of his psychological theories was about the Oedipus complex (I don't know what version of Oedipus he read, either, because I have read Sophocles' Oedipus Tyrranus and in that play, Oedipus does not intentionally kill his father or marry his mother)
ANYWAY and another topic was penis envy. So, to begin the class he stood at the front of the room, told us what to expect and tried to ease us into it by saying (direct quote): "Penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis and penis." It made me laugh like a high schooler. :laugh:
Now, for the part I've been eagerly awaiting: Does anybody have any suggestions as to what we could call the vagina, since some of us are sensitive to, well, medical terminology? Make me laugh.
the bearded clam?
the slanted clam
the pit of despair
That's a good start. Quite a bit less offensive than the ones I thought of.0 -
Americans are just screwed up when it comes to discussing the nether regions. Remember the Hooha Monologues?
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/36594-no-vaginas-please-were-floridian
OMG!! There are no vaginas in Florida?! When did this happen?0 -
.... What are some suggestions for the Michigan HoR to use instead of "Vagina?"
I am really looking forward to responses to this question... :laugh:
OTHERS MIGHT CALL IT:
dark, dank basement
well to hell
pie hole
I MIGHT CALL IT (depending on my mood, braaahahahaha)
cookie jar
jaws
center of the universe :drinker:
I DO CALL IT:
vagina
Americans are so damn silly aren't they? World-class repress- and suppressors, none better. Sheez, no wonder we started the world-wide obesity epidemic. . .oops, sorry, didn't mean to start a new hot-button topic! :devil:
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.... What are some suggestions for the Michigan HoR to use instead of "Vagina?"
I am really looking forward to responses to this question... :laugh:
OTHERS MIGHT CALL IT:
dark, dank basement
well to hell
pie hole
I MIGHT CALL IT (depending on my mood, braaahahahaha)
cookie jar
jaws
center of the universe :drinker:
I DO CALL IT:
vagina
Americans are so damn silly aren't they? World-class repress- and suppressors, none better. Sheez, no wonder we started the world-wide obesity epidemic. . .oops, sorry, didn't mean to start a new hot-button topic! :devil:
-Debra
I approve of these suggestions, and you're starting a hot button topic. I have a special place in my cold heart for hot button topics.0 -
Ugh, this reminds me of biology my freshman year of high school. I was reading aloud about an organism but said ORGASIM. Pobably one of my most embarrassing moments being the new kid. :sad:0
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My next door neighbor calls it hoo-ha. Really?! Hoo-ha?! I feel like asking if "it" is a guest star on Hee-Haw.. lol
I have just the unoriginal name for it of Ms. Kitty, and Vagina of course.0 -
Ah, not having mods all over the place makes me happy on the inside.
Anyway, getting to the real topic, I found this article about a representative from the Michigan HoR using the word "Vagina" while discussing legislation about abortion. She was banned from speaking about a bill on school employee retirement.
Read article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/michigan-politician-banned-using-word-vagina
My question is: why is it considered vulgar to say the word "vagina"? If they were discussing a topic on male reproductive organs (not that they ever would, as men are not second class citizens like we women are...) would they be able to use the word "penis?"
Another question: What are some suggestions for the Michigan HoR to use instead of "Vagina?"
I am really looking forward to responses to this question... :laugh:
I think the bigger question is... Why would anyone find any word "vulgar?" They're words. They're audible sounds and/or written text. I'm sure "flooginfagen" means something "awful" in some culture, somewhere. To me, the word means exactly **** (mostly because it's gibberish that I just made up).
People are just dying to be offended by something.0 -
It's not the word itself. I think the phrasing people used in objection to her statements was some variant of "That's something so rude that I can't say it in mixed company." He's basically objecting to the fact that the woman referenced her own vagina. I think it's equally ridiculous b/c we're talking about laws that affect individual women in a very personal way. It makes sense that she would reference her own body parts if the law affects it (and it does). The other legislators just don't like the fact that she acknowledged that she has reproductive organs of her own b/c that's somehow vulgar? So yeah, it's not that they would have preferred another word. They would have preferred to keep ignoring the fact that she has a vagina at all.0
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I'm sure "flooginfagen" means something "awful" in some culture, somewhere. To me, the word means exactly **** (mostly because it's gibberish that I just made up).
Sounds German. :happy:0 -
I'm sure "flooginfagen" means something "awful" in some culture, somewhere. To me, the word means exactly **** (mostly because it's gibberish that I just made up).
Sounds German. :happy:
My favorite there is "Scheibe Kopf." Translation: "Sh*thead."0 -
I'm sure "flooginfagen" means something "awful" in some culture, somewhere. To me, the word means exactly **** (mostly because it's gibberish that I just made up).
Sounds German. :happy:
My favorite there is "Scheibe Kopf." Translation: "Sh*thead."
Actually, Scheisskopf is the exact translation... but Auf deutsch it's spelled scheißkopf.
German lesson for today!
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I'm sure "flooginfagen" means something "awful" in some culture, somewhere. To me, the word means exactly **** (mostly because it's gibberish that I just made up).
Sounds German. :happy:
My favorite there is "Scheibe Kopf." Translation: "Sh*thead."
Actually, Scheisskopf is the exact translation... but Auf deutsch it's spelled scheißkopf.
German lesson for today!
Thanks, Scheisskopf.
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Wouldn't that be "Danke, mein Scheisskopfen"?
((No Deutsche classes, but I spent some time in Bremerhaven).
Let's get back to the nicknames! I wann'a see some chickophobic old male trolls tremble with,,, whatever that thing is.
"Vertical smile"
"Snooch"
"Lady tackle"
"Taco"
"Orchid"
"Gold mine" (every woman is sitting on a gold mine,,, hehehe.
Ok, I'll quit. Sorry. :-)0 -
Wouldn't that be "Danke, mein Scheisskopfen"?
((No Deutsche classes, but I spent some time in Bremerhaven).
Not sure of the use of mein or meine but yes. Sadly, 7 years of German plus German speaking family (most of which are deceased) and I still suck.
I think my favorite term for the part is probably the most offensive. Therefore I will refrain from mentioning it here!0 -
Verily thou shalt not speak the "@" word,,, (trembling in fear, won't even type the 3rd letter of the alphabet).
Nice pic on your ticker Mandy. A friend just posted something like this on her facebook:
""To whom it may concern - it has recently come to my attention that the little stick figures on the back of cars are supposed to represent your family - not your body count. I'm sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Scraping now". :laugh: :happy:
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"box". a word which always confuses me, but also amuses me. :ohwell:
Oprah bestowed "va-jay-jay" upon us. I'll never forgive her. :frown:
my grandma always said "business". As in, go wash your business. Vague and unoffensive. :indifferent:
I say "kitty". I always cringe a bit at "pus s y" it seems too porn-ish. :blushing:
nobody is allowed to say rhymes with runt. It's just too harsh and ugly. :noway:
particularly cringe worthy and derived from the bowels of reddit, we have 2 awful submissions, "roast beef sandwich" and "blue waffle"
I got nothing else to add.0 -
Verily thou shalt not speak the "@" word,,, (trembling in fear, won't even type the 3rd letter of the alphabet).
Nice pic on your ticker Mandy. A friend just posted something like this on her facebook:
""To whom it may concern - it has recently come to my attention that the little stick figures on the back of cars are supposed to represent your family - not your body count. I'm sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Scraping now". :laugh: :happy:
I took a pic and posted on facebook a bright green Kia Soul in a parking lot with a woman stick figure and 6 cats on her back window. :noway: My comment on the photo was, "Nice one, crazy cat lady!" A friend commented on my pic that it was her aunt's car!! :laugh:0 -
She was purposefully using inflamatory words/statements to make her point. It wasn't the word itself. It's how she was using it. She got the attention and reaction she was going for.0
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She was purposefully using inflamatory words/statements to make her point. It wasn't the word itself. It's how she was using it. She got the attention and reaction she was going for.
The point, however, seems to be why the noun "vagina" has to be inflammatory (oops, sorry for the mind picture there) in the legislator or anywhere else outside of slums and porn shops? Makes me want to shout: vagina vagina vagina until the shock value and religious undertones is gone and it's meaning is in equilibrium with other biological descriptive words.
Someone posted this pic on my FB page:
Score!!!
-Debra0 -
The point, however, seems to be why the noun "vagina" has to be inflammatory (oops, sorry for the mind picture there) in the legislator or anywhere else outside of slums and porn shops? Makes me want to shout: vagina vagina vagina until the shock value and religious undertones is gone and it's meaning is in equilibrium with other biological descriptive words.
Someone posted this pic on my FB page:
Score!!!
-Debra
It's not about the word! It's the way she was using it. And, I've seen this sign and don't really understand how it fits in with what happened. The sign is saying, "Woman doesn't depend on man; but man depends on woman". Why use something from the bible to make a point in this specific incident?0 -
Ah, not having mods all over the place makes me happy on the inside.
Anyway, getting to the real topic, I found this article about a representative from the Michigan HoR using the word "Vagina" while discussing legislation about abortion. She was banned from speaking about a bill on school employee retirement.
Read article here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/15/michigan-politician-banned-using-word-vagina
My question is: why is it considered vulgar to say the word "vagina"? If they were discussing a topic on male reproductive organs (not that they ever would, as men are not second class citizens like we women are...) would they be able to use the word "penis?"
Another question: What are some suggestions for the Michigan HoR to use instead of "Vagina?"
I am really looking forward to responses to this question... :laugh:
I think the bigger question is... Why would anyone find any word "vulgar?" They're words. They're audible sounds and/or written text. I'm sure "flooginfagen" means something "awful" in some culture, somewhere. To me, the word means exactly **** (mostly because it's gibberish that I just made up).
People are just dying to be offended by something.
Agreed.
I never have, and probably never will, understand why people are offended by words.
Especially something like "vagina." Over half of the world's population has a vagina, but apparently, that's not common knowledge.0 -
The point, however, seems to be why the noun "vagina" has to be inflammatory (oops, sorry for the mind picture there) in the legislator or anywhere else outside of slums and porn shops? Makes me want to shout: vagina vagina vagina until the shock value and religious undertones is gone and it's meaning is in equilibrium with other biological descriptive words.
Someone posted this pic on my FB page:
Score!!!
-Debra
It's not about the word! It's the way she was using it. And, I've seen this sign and don't really understand how it fits in with what happened. The sign is saying, "Woman doesn't depend on man; but man depends on woman". Why use something from the bible to make a point in this specific incident?
Because even twenty or maybe ten years ago women were too modest and beholden to use the word in any context, biblical or political. It makes the point that enlightened women and men are taking back or trying to take back a word that was suppressed and ill-treated and give it equilibrium. A civil-rights movement for the biological term, so's to speak!
-Debra0
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