Prison Rape
Tiggerrick
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A child molester gets convicted to prison for his acts. A few days after being locked up he is raped by another inmate. He does NOT report it, becomes sick a week later due to an infection directly related to the rape. He suffers complications from the infection so severe that he ends up in the hospital for several weeks. He receives appropriate medical care, but dies directly due to the complications.
Poetic justice or Department of Corrections negligence?
Should the inmate-rapist be charged with rape, murder, or neither?
Poetic justice or Department of Corrections negligence?
Should the inmate-rapist be charged with rape, murder, or neither?
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Whats with the loaded question Rick? Damn..0
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Morally - poetic justice.
Legally - rape and possibly negligent homicide depending on the full details.0 -
Yes, he should be charged with rape. Child molesters aren't the only ones raped in prison and allowing ANYONE to get away with only perpetuates it. I think there are even circumstances the prison officials should be held liable for turning a blind eye.0
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What details would you like (minus names of course)Morally - poetic justice.
Legally - rape and possibly negligent homicide depending on the full details.0 -
Did the rapist know he had something that would kill him? Did he intend to kill this guy? If so it's more than negligent homicide. If it's something the rapist didn't know he had or that could have been treated or something (can't think of any infection that would kill one person in less than a week while the original person lived on healthy) then he didn't intend to kill him and that's negligent homicide or manslaughter.
What details would you like (minus names of course)Morally - poetic justice.
Legally - rape and possibly negligent homicide depending on the full details.0 -
If I am the parent or family member of the original victim - justice is served.
Reality though - the rapist deserves to be punished for the rape, but it isn't his fault that the other prisoner didn't report and died as a result. DoJ could also be seen as culpable for not providing a safe environment where things like this can't happen.0 -
If you take away the fact that the man who died was a scum bag, the man who raped him is responsible for his death. Rape is a violent act, and when you commit violence in any way that results in the victims death, the perpetrator is to blame. Doesn't matter that he didn't intend it. If someone assaults you on the streets and accidently kills you, they are accountable. If a person robs a bank and their gun accidently goes off, the robber is responsible. In the case or rape, any and all harmful outcomes are the responsiblity of the rapist.
As far as the prison being held accountable, we would need more info.0 -
If you take the fact that the man who died was a scum bag, the man who raped him is responsible for his death. Rape is a violent act, and when you commit violence in any way that results in the victims death, the perpetrator is to blame. Doesn't matter that he didn't intend it. If someone assaults you on the streets and accidently kills you, they are accountable. If a person robs a bank and their gun accidently goes off, the robber is responsible. In the rape of case, any and all harmful outcomes are the responsiblity of the rapist.
As far as the prison being held accountable, we would need more info.0 -
The rapist is responsible for the rape most deffinatly. However by not seeking treament for a week after what I have to assume was extreme anal tearing I dont think you can blame him for anything more than Neglegent homicide in the death department.
As far as the DOJ being responsible I have to say I work in a correctional mental health facility and sometimes despite everything we do and every precaution we take (including all of the patients having their own rooms) these things still happen. And we are not near as crowded or understaffed as a prison.
However most child rapist and killers go into isolation on the high risk unit to prevent these kinds of instances. In that they are responsible0 -
Yes, he should be charged with rape. Child molesters aren't the only ones raped in prison and allowing ANYONE to get away with only perpetuates it. I think there are even circumstances the prison officials should be held liable for turning a blind eye.
I couldn't put it better than this.
But I can put it this way: Rape and prolonged, probably agonizing death? Why permit it. Just execute people who are guilty. If you want to keep them alive and warehoused in prison because you fear the justice system might convict someone wrongfully (as you should!) then keep these people safe, even when they are convicted of the most heinous crimes.0 -
I'd hate to think that failure to report it somehow lightens the liability of a rapist considering how many women don't report rape outside of jail for various reasons.
As far as I'm concerned, raping someone holds you liable for the rape and any medical complications that follow regardless of it was reported in a timely manner or not. We're talking about a violent attack here.0 -
The "short eyes" inmate morality that people like to think exists in prison, doesn't.0
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Do we know for sure it was rape and not consensual?0
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The "short eyes" inmate morality that people like to think exists in prison, doesn't.
I don't know what you mean by "'short eyes' inmate morality." Could you explain?0 -
Poetic justice at its finest!!0
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Disgusting.0
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glad the f******* is dead.0
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We should protect prisoners from rape unless being raped is part of their sentence. Child molesters should have it as part of their sentence.0
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Yes and no.0
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I am no apologist for child molesters, and I don't believe in rehabilitation, but I find it absolutely reprehensible that anyone in our society views any kind of rape as justifiable. There are millions of people in the world who think a woman who dresses provocatively deserves to be raped (or, at very least, shouldn't complain if it happens). It is equally ridiculous to assert that a child molester deserves to be raped as a consequence of his crime. The whole mindset that anyone deserves to have his or her body and spirit violated in such a way is indicative of mental illness, if you ask me.
With regard to how people are treated in prison, I always ask myself "If I were wrongfully convicted of a crime and sentenced to prison, how would I expect to be treated?" Certainly I wouldn't expect them to roll out the red carpet, given that, for all they know, I'm guilty of a crime (maybe even a heinous one). But, at least in America, we do have a little something called the Eighth Amendment, and I take it just as seriously as I do all the others.0 -
The "short eyes" inmate morality that people like to think exists in prison, doesn't.
I don't know what you mean by "'short eyes' inmate morality." Could you explain?
"Short Eyes" is prison slang for a pedophile. The myth that pedophiles may have justice exacted at the hands of other inmates in prison is not as prevalent as one would think. While there is a caste system within prison and some prisoners like tho think that some crimes are more morally reprehensible than others, the truth is, if you keep your mouth shut, your eyes down, and keep to yourself, you may escape punishment.0 -
I agree completely, jq2122.
And thanks for explaining, TheRoadDog.0 -
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i think pedophilia is the worst crime there is. i think a pedophiles should be put to death. that said, inmates should not be allowed to rape or murder or harm other inmates. it should be rape at least, if not manslaughter.0
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"Short Eyes" is prison slang for a pedophile. The myth that pedophiles may have justice exacted at the hands of other inmates in prison is not as prevalent as one would think. While there is a caste system within prison and some prisoners like tho think that some crimes are more morally reprehensible than others, the truth is, if you keep your mouth shut, your eyes down, and keep to yourself, you may escape punishment.
Talking with a buddy of mine in corrections, how well you fare in prison tends to have a lot more to do with how well you get on with the gangs there or how good you are at keeping to yourself.0 -
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