Sleep Efficiency...shocked but what to do?

FitGirl329
FitGirl329 Posts: 103 Member
I've been using my FitBit for three weeks now. I continue to be shocked at my sleep efficiency numbers. I know I wake up for a couple of minutes at a time, turn over and go back to sleep. It happens all the time. I have a hard time getting up in the morning...I'm assuming from interrupted sleep. Here's my stats since getting my fitbit:

Efficiency :Time in Bed : Awakened Times: Time asleep
80% 9h 59m 8x 6h 29m
75% 8h 22m 11x 5h 42m
76% 7h 8m 8x 5h 21m
71% 8h 49m 13x 6h 2 m
75% 8h 22m 10x 5h 34m
88% 7h 33m 4x 6h 6m
79% 7h 12m 7x 5h 14m
75% 8h 1m 9x 5h 19m
78% 5h 48m 7x 4h 7m
86% 7h 57m 10x 6h 25m
80% 7h 11m 6x 5h 14m
93% 5h 45m 2x 4h 53m
89% 8h 48m 6x 7h 43m
85% 7h 21m 6x 6h 2m
72% 7h 20m 11x 5h 18m

My average percentage is 80% and that's with the skewed 93% thrown in from a night with friends and wine. :) I'm getting on average six-ish hours of interrupted sleep time and toss/turn/wake roughly 8x a night on average. Those stats aren't good.

I knew I woke up during the night but didn't realize I was this restless. I fall asleep within minutes. I've read other fitbit users who have sleep efficiency numbers in the 90th percentile on a regular basis. I think how rested they must feel! So what can I do to achieve this now that the numbers are in front of me? I don't consume coffee late in the day. I don't watch late night TV. I fall asleep quickly. I just can't seem to stay asleep soundly all night. It's frustrating.
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  • bottomlesspurse
    bottomlesspurse Posts: 5 Member
    Hi babs

    I'm in a similar position, (56% last night, slept 4 hours 10 mins, woke 13 times) but I knew I had problems anyway. I had a hysterectomy and my ovaries removed over a year ago and my sleep has been awful since - hot flushes don't help lol.

    Have you tried all the sleep hygiene tricks? Your bedroom shouldn't have a tv or radio in it, you need to have curtains that will block the light, make sure that the air has at least been circulating in it throughout the day, no stimulating activities before bed etc? I also use lavender oil on my bedding and use relaxation techniques when I go to bed.

    I don't know if there is one solution for all re sleep, but hope you can find something that helps. If you do, let me know what it is lol xx
  • stacydances
    stacydances Posts: 5 Member
    Are you using the sensitive or normal setting for sleep? I find when I use the "sensitive tracker" my sleep efficiency goes down by as much as 20%. Using the "normal tracker" setting seems more akin with reality for me.
  • Cocochickdeleted
    Cocochickdeleted Posts: 342 Member
    Are you sure you don't have sleep apnea? My mom used to wake often during the night, and her sister in law suggested she do a sleep study. Sure enough, she had to start using a CPAP machine at night. Do you snore? You may want to talk to your doctor about this if you are regularly not getting a good, restful night's sleep.
  • I have woken up every night since I got mine between 10 and 14 times, but I still average over 90% efficient. I'm not really sure how that works, but the efficiency score really doesn't mean you're getting good sleep for me. I still feel like crap in the morning and fall asleep on the couch almost every night before I intend to go to bed.
  • Kimsied
    Kimsied Posts: 223 Member
    I don't really pay attention to the sleep efficiency stat because I am always in the mid-high 90s even on nights where fitbit tracked 6 hours of sleep. I guess I don't really know what it means in application to me. When I had it on sensitive my efficiency was pretty low I think in the 70s? I do find I feel pretty good on days where my fitbit tracked "actual sleep" is 8 hours or very close. And sometimes I will not feel well rested and see fitbit thinks I slept for 5 or 6 hours even if I was in bed for 8 or 9. I did learn getting a good 8 hours of rest means being in bed longer than 8 hours for me. It is of course really only tracking how long you are in bed, how often you get up, how much you move, and how much time you spend not moving and how much of that still time is uninterrupted. I don't know what to do about it, i you have might have a serious sleep issue it may be worth discussing with a doctor. If you are just not giving yourself enough time to get enough of the still time, going to bed a little earlier might help (for me anyway, it seems to generally take me a while to settle into sleep and I wasn't giving myself enough time).
  • FitGirl329
    FitGirl329 Posts: 103 Member
    No sleep apnea. I don't snore at all. DH snores. I sleep with ear plugs in. I will say that I'm wondering if part of it isn't our mattress. It's not even seven years old but it's just not that comfortable anymore to me. I guess I keep thinking sometime in the next year we'll replace it. But since it's a pillow top, we can't flip it. We just built a house and moved in a couple of months ago. I don't have window treatments yet. But it was like this before we moved. This is how I've been for a few years it feels like.

    I honestly don't remember the last time I went to bed and slept through the entire night. I remember waking up at least once.

    It is set to sensitive because after I bought my fitbit, I'd read that the normal setting wasn't sensitive enough. Now I don't know what to set it on! LOL!
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    I would try setting it on normal, and see if what you get there is closer to reality. I have tried both the sensitive and the normal setting. On normal, I can usually remember waking up or moving around at each point that it says I woke up. On sensitive, it shows waking periods when I knew I didn't wake up. Try both, and pick the one that makes the most sense to you.
    It is set to sensitive because after I bought my fitbit, I'd read that the normal setting wasn't sensitive enough. Now I don't know what to set it on! LOL!
  • stacydances
    stacydances Posts: 5 Member
    After two weeks of stressing out and being horrified by how much the fitbit thought I was awake and how little sleep I was getting, I switched to the normal setting and never looked back. But, I have two small children, so my biggest concern is how much time I allow myself in bed. If I'm only in bed/asleep from 11:30-5:00, that's a problem! The sensitive setting just made me anxious and upset and I decided it wasn't worth it!
  • Yardtigress
    Yardtigress Posts: 367 Member
    I have mine set to normal and have 92-96% efficiency, I know I wake during the night and get up to use the bathroom (diabetic). I need abut 71/2 hours of sleep to feel good the next day.
  • kaseysospacey
    kaseysospacey Posts: 499 Member
    Makes me feel weird...my sleep efficiency is always like 40-60%. I wake up constantly I guess.
  • holleysings
    holleysings Posts: 664 Member
    I've been using my FitBit for three weeks now. I continue to be shocked at my sleep efficiency numbers. I know I wake up for a couple of minutes at a time, turn over and go back to sleep. It happens all the time. I have a hard time getting up in the morning...I'm assuming from interrupted sleep. Here's my stats since getting my fitbit:

    Efficiency :Time in Bed : Awakened Times: Time asleep
    80% 9h 59m 8x 6h 29m
    75% 8h 22m 11x 5h 42m
    76% 7h 8m 8x 5h 21m
    71% 8h 49m 13x 6h 2 m
    75% 8h 22m 10x 5h 34m
    88% 7h 33m 4x 6h 6m
    79% 7h 12m 7x 5h 14m
    75% 8h 1m 9x 5h 19m
    78% 5h 48m 7x 4h 7m
    86% 7h 57m 10x 6h 25m
    80% 7h 11m 6x 5h 14m
    93% 5h 45m 2x 4h 53m
    89% 8h 48m 6x 7h 43m
    85% 7h 21m 6x 6h 2m
    72% 7h 20m 11x 5h 18m

    My average percentage is 80% and that's with the skewed 93% thrown in from a night with friends and wine. :) I'm getting on average six-ish hours of interrupted sleep time and toss/turn/wake roughly 8x a night on average. Those stats aren't good.

    I knew I woke up during the night but didn't realize I was this restless. I fall asleep within minutes. I've read other fitbit users who have sleep efficiency numbers in the 90th percentile on a regular basis. I think how rested they must feel! So what can I do to achieve this now that the numbers are in front of me? I don't consume coffee late in the day. I don't watch late night TV. I fall asleep quickly. I just can't seem to stay asleep soundly all night. It's frustrating.

    Your numbers are amazing compared to mine! My sleep efficiency is usually between 32-37%. :ohwell: The sad thing is that it's accurate. I just don't sleep well and I don't know how to fix it either!
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    Good thinking. I would also point out that the reason to monitor your sleep isn't to make you feel bad, but to give you a comparison between 'today' and 'usually'. If it normally tells you that you have 8 hrs, and last night said 5 hrs, you know that your sleep quality last night was much worse (but you probably already knew that!) If it normally says 5 hrs, and last night said 5 hrs, it was pretty much a normal night.

    Sometimes you really need a reality check - "I felt like I was tossing and turning all night long. I only got 2 hours of sleep." And then you look at your fitbit record and find out "I was tossing and turning from 3-4 a.m., it just felt longer." Or alternatively, you might need the confirmation "Yes, there's a reason that I'm tired today, that my run went badly, and that I want a nap at 3:30 p.m. I got 3 hours less sleep than usual last night."


    After two weeks of stressing out and being horrified by how much the fitbit thought I was awake and how little sleep I was getting, I switched to the normal setting and never looked back. But, I have two small children, so my biggest concern is how much time I allow myself in bed. If I'm only in bed/asleep from 11:30-5:00, that's a problem! The sensitive setting just made me anxious and upset and I decided it wasn't worth it!
  • karaklj
    karaklj Posts: 26
    My sleeps a bit strange Im in the 90s of accuracy usually but there was a night I woke 12 times very strange! But it is a good tool I think...I think I do snore sometimes...but mostly I'm getting up to go to the restroom the same time every early am before 6am.

    And take my thyroid and back to sleep.

    How do we set the fitbit to sensitive I didn't know we could set that function ??
  • stacydances
    stacydances Posts: 5 Member
    My sleeps a bit strange Im in the 90s of accuracy usually but there was a night I woke 12 times very strange! But it is a good tool I think...I think I do snore sometimes...but mostly I'm getting up to go to the restroom the same time every early am before 6am.

    And take my thyroid and back to sleep.

    How do we set the fitbit to sensitive I didn't know we could set that function ??

    In the Sleep Log section of the fitbit site, hover your mouse over the top right hand corner of your sleep data. A little note will come up that reads "click to edit." Click it and there will be a hyperlink near the bottom of the data that says "Use Sensitive Tracker." You can switch back and forth any time to compare. It doesn't change the way the FB gathers data, just the way it reports it back to you.
  • FitGirl329
    FitGirl329 Posts: 103 Member
    My percentage went WAY up when I switched to normal. And then I tried the hovering thing and switching from the normal to sensitive view and was blown away. BUT, I notice that when I switched from normal to sensitive, it seemed like it may have been more accurate on normal. But when I had it set to sensitive and THEN switched the reading from sensitive to normal, I remember waking at times when it's not showing I woke on the converted view. Does that make sense? I'm going to keep it on the normal mode and see if that's a bit more accurate.
  • chicadejmu
    chicadejmu Posts: 171 Member
    You might try taking melatonin. It helps me fall asleep but I've also seen others on the forum say it helps them stay asleep better. No ill effects in the morning.
  • stef_monster
    stef_monster Posts: 205 Member
    I got my FitBit yesterday, set it up, linked with MFP, and got it charged. I love it so far- it seems to be working great. I was especially excited about the sleep tracker function due to some ongoing problems I have with sleeping through the night. I started wearing a bruxism (clenching/ grinding teeth) mouth guard over a year ago, and was amazed at how much more rested I felt in the mornings. However, the honeymoon period wore off, and while I'm getting better sleep than before, I'm still extremely tired in the mornings on days I go to work. I wore the FitBit for the first time last night while I slept. I set it to sensitive because I felt it might be more accurate. HA! I was in bed for 7 hours 20 minutes (far from ideal, but not too bad), and it said that I only slept for 2 hours 45 minutes, awakening 16 times. Maybe a little TOO sensitive, haha. I was really stressed last night due to some drama with friends, but I definitely think I got more than 3 hours. Gonna put it back on normal and give it another try, and maybe pick up some melatonin for good measure.
  • slcjd92
    slcjd92 Posts: 33 Member
    I agree on the melatonin. It helps to quiet your brain and helps you to sleep more soundly. You take it about 30 minutes before you plan to go to bed and then you should be able to get to sleep right away and no lingering effects the next morning. I love it because I have trouble shutting my brain off at night. Good luck with the sleep numbers.
  • Smuterella
    Smuterella Posts: 1,623 Member
    It is completely normal to wake several times in the night, not something to be concerned aboout at all

    Every 60-100 minutes we go through a cycle of four stages of sleep

    Stage 1 is a drowsy, relaxed state between being awake and sleeping - breathing slows, muscles relax, heart rate drops
    Stage 2 is slightly deeper sleep - you may feel awake and this means that, on many nights, you may be asleep and not know it
    Stage 3 and Stage 4, or Deep Sleep - it is very hard to wake up from Deep Sleep because this is when there is the lowest amount of activity in your body
    After Deep Sleep, we go back to Stage 2 for a few minutes, and then enter Dream Sleep - also called REM (rapid eye movement) sleep - which, as its name suggests, is when you dream

    In a full sleep cycle, a person goes through all the stages of sleep from one to four, then back down through stages three and two, before entering dream sleep
  • GBO323
    GBO323 Posts: 333 Member
    I bought my FitBit last night and did the sleep tracker. I had it on norma setting and it scored me with 98% Sleep Efficiency. Seems pretty accurate. I do toss about at times and it marked it on the time line.

    Bed time Fell asleep in Awakened In bed time Sleep efficiency
    12:20AM 11min 6 times 7hrs 43min 98%
  • Angie_Fritts
    Angie_Fritts Posts: 263 Member
    No matter what you are setting your fitbit on (normal vs sensitive) if you are tired when you get up and are waking up alot then there is an issue. I would suggest try taking melatonin for a couple of weeks 30 minutes before going to bed and see if that helps at all. Melatonin is a natural supplement. And of course if things don't rectify soon go see your doctor.

    Good luck!
  • Honestly, if you are tired in the morning and waking up that much and you have insurance, I would get a sleep study. You can have apnea and not snore. My problem is not being able to fall asleep or stay asleep. I had a sleep study done a few years ago and reviewed by a sleep neurologist. I was not getting much REM sleep so I was tired in the morning and the reason I was waking up so much is because I have restless legs disorder, which runs in my family.

    Melatonin and effect certain prescription drugs, so be careful before you buy it
  • fay_pigu
    fay_pigu Posts: 125 Member
    I don't do this but an option is have sleep in two parts. 4 hours, get up and do some stuff then back to bed for sleep part two.

    I have 98% efficiency but only been sleeping 6 to 6.5 hours so wake up a little tired :yawn: and distracted ... this is not the post i was looking for.
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    6 hrs is a good night for me. 5.5-5.7 is about average.
  • MbiggsHFD319
    MbiggsHFD319 Posts: 427 Member
    Until mine stopped working properly (free replacement is on the way) I was only getting about 3-5 hours of sleep with only 65% or less efficiency and I really think that was pretty accurate. I know I toss and turn all night due to the husband's need for TV and ceiling fan, which both are bothersome to me.
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    Sounds like you need to sleep in separate rooms.
    Until mine stopped working properly (free replacement is on the way) I was only getting about 3-5 hours of sleep with only 65% or less efficiency and I really think that was pretty accurate. I know I toss and turn all night due to the husband's need for TV and ceiling fan, which both are bothersome to me.
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    Are you using the sensitive or normal setting for sleep? I find when I use the "sensitive tracker" my sleep efficiency goes down by as much as 20%. Using the "normal tracker" setting seems more akin with reality for me.
    I I had the same issue when I used the "sensitive" setting.
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    I'm someone who's had serious sleep problems and I once spent the night in a sleep lab. As some folks have already said, the recommendations for sleep hygiene are:

    Bed used only for sleep and sex
    No TV (many TVs have timers that shut down the device after a preset time)
    No computers
    No cell phones
    Try doing a calming activity like meditation

    Now they're saying that sleep meds (and I tried them all) may actually do more harm than good.

    I no longer have trouble sleeping on normal days. Funny thing is, I can have a cup coffee, run in place for 10 minutes, fall asleep with my laptop on my bed and the TV blaring if I'm really tired.
  • RoxMyBox
    RoxMyBox Posts: 1
    I'm sorry, I don't mean to be dismissive or rude, but I came across this after doing a Google search for "fitbit" and "sleep efficiency" and I had to laugh out loud.

    The original poster is "shocked" that her sleep efficiency is at the percentage it is? I would say that those numbers are a very successful nights sleep.

    I've been battling crippling chronic fatigue pretty much my entire life. I can "sleep" (and by that, I mean the time I'm in bed) for 12+ hours and still have terrible brain fog and fatigue. I've been tested for apena and narcolepsy (don't have either) and trying to be in bed for 7 hours or 13 hours makes no difference. The fatigue is such a problem just to function and all of the suggestions of "don't eat or drink caffeine" before bedtime doesn't make a difference. I am on a daily antidepressant which is a stimulant as well as the highest dose of Adderal and neither of those make any difference in how awake and alert or less sleepy I feel during the day. I laugh when people tell me I need to exercise more and that will help because its hard to even have the energy to go about my daily routine and do errands or go to work let alone do any exercise! And when I do try to have a lot of exercise, I literally have to spend an entire day in bed to recouperated.

    Its REALLY that bad.

    I have been to numerous doctors and none can figure out why I'm so incredibly fatigued all the time. When I found out recently about the FitBit (I am a bit behind on technology), I told a friend and he gave me his old one to use. I am primarily using it for the purposes of monitoring my sleep and since I've been using it and data collecting, I'm trying to narrow it down to figure out what is causing my sleep and fatigue issues.

    Want to talk about SHOCKING? Try getting a look at THESE numbers! Now there are times where I wake up for a variety of reasons and I am aware that I did. Or times when I could not get my brain to shut off and I toss and turn for hours. Or times where I am woken up by something and then can't get back to sleep. These are all disturbances that I was going to expect to see. But its the amount of times that apparently I was woken up or had my sleep disturbed that I didn't even RECALL happening that is shocking. No wonder I am a walking zombie for the greater part of my life if I have sleep efficiency this poorly! Who on earth would be able to function well basically being sleep deprived? No wonder I'm not getting a good nights sleep when the longest I am sleeping is an hour (or 90 mins tops) before something distrupts me and I have to start that sleep cycle over and over again? Taking sleep aids like Melatonin don't seem to make a difference. Taking things like Amitryptylin or Ambien sure knock me the hell out, but I can't take them unless I know I can sleep as long as I want the next day to sleep it off because it gives me a "hangover" the next day if I need to wake up and get out of bed before its worn off.

    The bottom line: I'm just a ridiculously LIGHT SLEEPER. I'm figuring out the variables of things that I need to change in order to improve my situation but its probably going to have to result in making some pretty drastic changes in order to be able to sleep well. For starters, I am not going to be able to sleep in the same bed as my husband. Yes, he snores but its not really as bad as I've heard some people snore. But its apparently enough that it disrupts me and even ear phones don't help. Getting a new mattress will help. And so its up to the attic, making the room as pitch black and quiet as possible, in a bed with a new mattress, ear phones, a sleep mask and no pets allowed whatsoever. No glare from electronics, no light. Period. And if that doesn't do it, I'm this close to having a sleep coffin made for me.

    So yes, I don't want to be dismissive of the original poster but when you compare to these numbers I have obtained from MY sleep, you will easily be able to see why I find her complaint a bit laughable as something to be concerned with. I would be HAPPY if my numbers were like that!

    sleep efficiency/times awakened/total hours in bed/total hours cumulative slept

    39% 14x 8hrs49mins 3hrs 22mins
    61% 25X 15hrs31mins 8 hrs 44 mins
    64% 10x 8 hrs 46 mins 5 hrs 31 mins
    77% 11x 7 hrs 44 mins 5 hrs 5 mins
    53% 15x 8 hrs 18 mins 4 hrs 13mins
    57% 12x 7 hrs 6 mins 3 hours 19 mins
    36% 18x 9 hrs 17 mins 3 hrs 13 mins
    70% 10x 9 hrs 39 mins 6 hrs 41 mins
    69% 6x 4 hrs 33 mins 2 hrs 25 mins
    79% 6x 5 hrs 30 mins 4 hrs 16 mins
    69% 12x 7hrs 33 mins 4 hrs 55 mins
    63% 19x 8hrs 47 mins 5 hrs 14 mins
    59% 27x 11hrs 40 mins 6 hrs 40 mins
    70% 8x 7 hrs 29 mins 4 hrs 54 mins
    56% 15x 9 hours 42 mins 5 hrs 8 mins
    71% 14x 9hrs 27 mins 6 hrs 29 mins
    68% 12x 9 hrs 5 mins 5 hrs 44 mins
    61% 13x 8 hrs 43 mins 5 hrs 0 mins
    55% 11x 7 hrs 5 mins 3 hours 46 mins
    72% 13x 10 hrs 15 mins 7 hrs 7 mins
  • NoxDineen
    NoxDineen Posts: 497 Member
    If your husband snores that can really impact sleep quality even if you don't recall waking up totally. When my boyfriend is our of town my sleep quality is amazing. (If the snoring is caused by a deviated septum he can have surgery, my boyfriend gallantly signed up for it.)