When I was eating the Atkins bars I found they stalled my weight loss and I would only showed trace on the keto strips.
I stopped eating them and everything else that has sugar alcohols in them and haven't had any further issues since then.
I now eat Quest bars, no sugar alcohols in the original ones and they're yummy too!
I don't think it could have been the brussel sprouts though. I eat them often!

I used to keep threm in freezer then as a treat (every once in a while) I would put the frozen one in a baggie and smash then have bite size peices when I went to movies ... better than pop corn or candy

So what r these Quest bars? Can u only get them on line...and what no carbs?

It was probably the Atkins bars. Atkins doesn't count "sugar alcohols" as a carb but some of them, especially malitol have been known to knock people out of ketosis.

This^^

You have to undestand what ketosis is, and how the sticks work.

Ketosis is when your brain starts to use ketones for fuel. Your brain requires about 100g of glucose per day. Anything under this number will force the brain to use ketones. You can eat 90g of carbs a day and be in ketosis.

The strips work because any "EXCESS" ketones that aren't used will be passed out through the urine. Just because you don't test positive on a ketostix doesn't mean you're not in ketosis. It just means there aren't any "excess" ketones. Your body is using all the ketones.

Also keep i mind that protein converts at a .48/1 ratio. Meaning for every 1g of protein consumed you will produce .48g of glucose. So it's about 50%. If you consume 100g of protein you're really consuming about 50g of carbs(glucose) and 50 grams of protein.

Ketosis or not, it's still about calories. I done ketosis for a long time with no added benefit.

You can't be on the extreme end of the ketostick and be healthy. If you are, you definitely have some metabolic issues. Glucogon and insulin are antagonist hormones. Insulin stores nutrients and fats, glucagon releases them. When you don't eat(ketosis has the same biological effects of starvation) glucagon goes up releasing fats and glucose in to the blood stream. When you eat insulin will go up. Yes even if you just eat protein. If enough insulin isn't produce, ketones start to build up in the body, they can't be used. So a lot of them are excreted through the urine. This is metabolic acidois.

I guess this is just a complex way of saying, your insulin will only go down and stay within a certain range. If you don't eat, glucogon will be released which will release glucose and increase insulin. So insulin won't go super low if you're healthy. There is a bottom line. This will only give you small amount of ketones to be excreted. If you're excreting a lot, you have some insulin issues and should be check. It can be very serious.

90 grams of carbs a day and be in ketosis?

Go into some real low carb places on that net and share that.

This is terrible advice.

Anyone with a ketone blood meter would absolutely laugh at this. There is a difference between pissing ketones in the morning on a stick, when you usually get false positives, and actually being in true ketosis.

Calories? I eat upwards of 6000 calories a day in TRUE nutritonal ketosis and lose weight. It is hardly all about calories.

Almost everyone that practices a ketotic state as a way of life has learned two things

Almost no carbs, less than 20 a day, thats TOTAL not net. After a while you can maybe stretch that to 50. Maybe. The only exception being UCAN superstarch IF you work out signifigant amounts or use it very sparringly.

But 90, while counting calories is simply not a ketogenic diet.

The second thing is limit protein. To much protein will stop ketosis cold. It that simple.

This is not about hard numbers, it is about relative numbers. High fat, moderate (10 to 15%) calories from protein, less than 5% from carbs. You can get into ketosis at first bending those, you can even keto cycle a bit playing with this, but 90? Sorry its absurd.

I would suggest if you really want to learn ketosis as a way of life done right, check out Peter Attia at the Eating Academy (just google), and the Art and Science of Low Carbohyrdate Living (and the 2nd book, Art and Science of Low Carb Performance) which will explain in great detail everything I have spoken of here by two doctors who have spent decades working in low carb athletics.

I know this is meant well, but carb cycle and being in true nutritonal ketosis are completely different states of being.

Now as far as excess ketones, once fully keto adapted those vanish, along with any breath issues, etc... your body will eventually balance with lipids and ketones and you will no longer produce more than you need unless you do a hard or long workout, in which case you will see ketone spillage.

As well for ketosticks, do not check your first urine in the morning. It is almost always a false positive from pooling overnight.

As well, eating coconut oil which converts directly to ketones often fools people into thinking they are in ketosis with further false positives, but its actually just the MCT converting directly to ketones, and not your body fat.

I do not like to come into a new group and tell someone they are wrong, but this all seems very wrong and very much in conflict with the advice you will get from bonafide low carb keto practitioners.

You might be sensitive to the glycerine. Real labels, it's fairly easy to avoid. You may be okay with it in smaller amounts, bars tend to have a lot in them.

Pu_ I smell a troll!

lol, ketone bodies are your no. 2 go to fuel for your brain, with lactic acid being the no. 1 brain fuel. You only need about 10g. of glucose for your brain a day, and that is solely from what your liver (not your diet) provides the brain.

PU please go somewhere else with your misinformation!!!

Pu_ I smell a troll!

lol, ketone bodies are your no. 2 go to fuel for your brain, with lactic acid being the no. 1 brain fuel. You only need about 10g. of glucose for your brain a day, and that is solely from what your liver (not your diet) provides the brain.

PU please go somewhere else with your misinformation!!!

oh i remember you, i debunked all your theories and asked you to prove yours and you disappeared.

I find that hard to believe, considering she and Danny are correct.

Pu, I don't understand why you are on this site giving such bad and dishonest advice.

You say that you've lived on a keto diet, but I wonder for how long. I learned about the keto diet back int he 70s. I lost 30 pounds, and by keeping my carbs under 25/day, I kept it off for 30 years. My recent weight gain is recent - and only happened when "life happened", and I found myself forced to change my diet to accomoate it.

If I were to eat 90 carbs a day, not only would I not be in ketosis, but I would be puffing out like a frightened blowfish.

there is nothing "wrong" with my metabolism. My metabolism is MY metabolism. I do not need to meet your standards that have to do with YOUR metabolism. I am working with my doctor who has no problem with my taking in less than 10 carbs a day. the improvement in my bloodwork was astounding.