I'm not really a perfection in terms of being late. Like I said I can see a 5-10 minute lateness. HOWEVER....

There is a bit of information that I'm leaving out (oh isnt that always the case :laugh: ). At the start of date #1 he said he was late because of traffic, but later on I found out (during date #2) he actually came to date #1 on BART (public transport in bay area if anyone doesn't know) so there was no driving involved, no excuse for not being able to find parking so that was pretty much a lie :laugh:

Hmmm< i hate lying too, but I see that as more of a fib,..........:laugh: I think he was trying to impress you and came up with the lame parking excuse for being late.

I really dont think that a fib and lateness is going to determine if this guy is a disprespectful cheat!!! Know what I mean?? You like him, get to know him a bit more. Relationships tend to fizzle on their own if they're not right - no need to force the issue :flowerforyou:

I'm not really a perfection in terms of being late. Like I said I can see a 5-10 minute lateness. HOWEVER....

There is a bit of information that I'm leaving out (oh isnt that always the case :laugh: ). At the start of date #1 he said he was late because of traffic, but later on I found out (during date #2) he actually came to date #1 on BART (public transport in bay area if anyone doesn't know) so there was no driving involved, no excuse for not being able to find parking so that was pretty much a lie :laugh:

Hmmm< i hate lying too, but I see that as more of a fib,..........:laugh: I think he was trying to impress you and came up with the lame parking excuse for being late.

I really dont think that a fib and lateness is going to determine if this guy is a disprespectful cheat!!! Know what I mean?? You like him, get to know him a bit more. Relationships tend to fizzle on their own if they're not right - no need to force the issue :flowerforyou:

I agree - but one tiny lie would have me on the lookout for more to see if it's a pattern. That's why I said it would be a strike - I would still give it another chance though since so few men come along that catch my interest, which it also sounds like the case for the OP.

thanks everyone for your opinions! it's interesting seeing how different people view the same things so differently. This is just one of the reasons I'm always surprised that anyone is ever able to find anyone they get along with romantically :laugh:

SO TRUE!

I have been late before (though I hate it and avoid it at all costs! Much like cupcake I also try and arrive 15 minutes early), and I have tolerated lateness before. There would be two things that would help me determine if this was something to stress about.

1) Did he have the ability to communicate with me that he was going to be late and didn't bother to? If he knew he was running late and didn't bother to text me at all even though he has a perfectly charged cell phone in his pocket then the lateness isn't the problem, it's his complete lack of consideration for my time. This would be especially true the second time he's late by THREE TIMES what he told me it would be when he clearly had the ability to amend the timeline further.

2) Did the lateness affect our plans? Was he so late that we missed the start of a movie? Did we lose our reservation at the restaurant? If so that's definitely a strike. There are the types of things I have to be early for and someone that doesn't have a thought for that is careless. This is how he behaves when he's trying to impress me? Hmm, no.

As for the lie that's just a disqualifier right there for me. It's far too early in our relationship for me to not be able to trust you.

@flimflam: i dunno if i can trust a guy to say he's a good shag. if every guy were as good as he thought he was women wouldnt be faking their orgasms :laugh:

Well but as I told you, I'm always late. So don't expect me to come early - at all. :laugh:

:laugh: One man's late is another man's early

@poncho : you waited an hour for a date?!?! I need to channel Clay Davis from The Wire on that and say "Sheeeeeeeeit"

hahaha... you just Clay Davis'ed me!! That made my day! SHHHHhhhhhhheeeeeeeiitt.

I actually had a date last night and she was 18 minutes late. I could have cared less... I went in and had a beer and shot the shhhheeeeet with the nosey waiter.

@poncho : you waited an hour for a date?!?! I need to channel Clay Davis from The Wire on that and say "Sheeeeeeeeit"

hahaha... you just Clay Davis'ed me!! That made my day! SHHHHhhhhhhheeeeeeeiitt.

I actually had a date last night and she was 18 minutes late. I could have cared less... I went in and had a beer and shot the shhhheeeeet with the nosey waiter.

Coulda been worse. Could have been 18 mins and 33 seconds late!

I actually had a date last night and she was 18 minutes late. I could have cared less... I went in and had a beer and shot the shhhheeeeet with the nosey waiter.

Wait, tell us about the date now! please? :drinker:

All there is to report is my wallet is $50 lighter. Wasn't digging her.

Give it a third try and perhaps plan something away from the city....