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Is there a downside to setting my diary to my BMR (plus a little wiggle room), record total calories burned during workouts (extensive cardio & heavier weight lifting) & eating to the max cals?
Or setting the diary for TDEE + % cut for every day consumption (recording just 1 cal burned post workouts)?
Trying to "weigh" the pros of cons of either scenario.
Appreciate the input! ((Fact is I'm a snob and love showing when I have MEGA BURNZZZZ!!!))
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Or setting the diary for TDEE + % cut for every day consumption (recording just 1 cal burned post workouts)?
Trying to "weigh" the pros of cons of either scenario.
Appreciate the input! ((Fact is I'm a snob and love showing when I have MEGA BURNZZZZ!!!))
:bigsmile:
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I have done both, its up to you. The eat cut number everyday is an easier way to look at it as you don't have to worry about calories burned, but you may be overestimating your activity level (or underestimating).
Using BMR+a bit more + exercise calories is a bit more detail oriented and the numbers you get from HRM or any other device you use to record your calories burned are not 100% accurate...
Either.. or.. no wrong answer.0 -
I have been wondering the same thing. I posted a topic similar to this and decided to set my calorie goal to TDEE-20% and just record my workouts as 1 calorie burns. I keep track of my workouts in a notebook anyway so it's not a big deal to me but if I didn't I might not want to do it that way. I just like being able to go back and see what I've burned for some reason!
Oh...and edited to add, if you set it the other way and don't exercise 7 days a week it kind of messes it up. For me it did anyway!0 -
I did me up a little calc (math nerd) and figured as such...
Typically I work out 3-5 x a week - weekends usually have double (or longer workouts) MWF - apprx. 550 cal/workout, weekends around 900-1200 Sat & Sunday
My BMR + some wiggle is around 1,850. I burn approximately 3,550/week resulting in 16,500 to consume for the week.
Using the TDEE (for mod. act) + 10% cut I am left with 16,730 calories to consume per week.
I dig the math so I'll play with this for a bit and see how I fare. If you think my above eval is completely off-the-wall bonkers, stone away! :bigsmile:0 -
imo, totally up to you.... i would personally do the TDEE - cut %....mainly because unless you have a HRM your burns are likely not super accurate.
.....btw.... your profile pic is *way* disturbing! :noway:0 -
imo, totally up to you.... i would personally do the TDEE - cut %....mainly because unless you have a HRM your burns are likely not super accurate.
.....btw.... your profile pic is *way* disturbing! :noway:
Have HRM so good in the hood...
and it's not polite to stare. :laugh:0 -
Okay I want to see the profile pic... the one she has now is just in the forest?
I will be doing TDEE - %cut and counting as 1. Keeps me consistent.0 -
Okay...now I want to see the profile pic, too. If it was disturbing, why didn't I notice it when I first replied to this thread? Things that make you go hmmm..0
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Haha!
Just a regular ol' Department Store window setting
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It's mostly down to personal preference and finding what works best for you. I've tried both ways and ended up preferring to set at TDEE minus my cut and eating that every day. I'd previously tried the netter over BMR method but I was finding that on rest days (i.e. the day after lifting when my body probably needed just as many cals) I was more restricted and was getting too hungry so for me it worked out better eating at cut value every day.0
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^^I agree. Your body needs to be fed even on rest days and it didn't work for me so I do TDEE minus cut and sometimes if I don't workout heavy that day I eat a few calories under.0
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Should really pick the non-exercise level you have then, and take 15% deficit off that.
So most that use a FitBit and BodyMedia discover their non-exercise days are actually easily at Lightly Active level, so even if doing desk job, should probably start there. Take 15%, and make that your daily goal.
Don't go to the BMR point.
Now, for your exercise, you should also be taking the 15% off those calories burned, and also remove the non-exercise TDEE calories already accounted for.
Why?
(Daily Activity + Exercise) - 15%
is the same as
DA - 15% + E - 15%
Your request was so normal actually, to make this easier, use the spreadsheet in this link, get stats filled in except for exercise, notice what your BMR multiplier is, and go to the MFP tweak tab, and use that.
There's a place to enter your workout burn and time, and have the deficit applied and double-counted calories removed.
It'll also tell you what your total deficit ended up being that day.
And before you place too much confidence in the HRM, might check out the HRM tab and confirm some burns with a Polar funded study formula that actually uses all available stats that your HRM might not be using.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/750920-spreadsheet-for-bmr-tdee-deficit-macro-calcs-hrm-zones0 -
Is there a downside to setting my diary to my BMR (plus a little wiggle room), record total calories burned during workouts (extensive cardio & heavier weight lifting) & eating to the max cals?
Or setting the diary for TDEE + % cut for every day consumption (recording just 1 cal burned post workouts)?
Trying to "weigh" the pros of cons of either scenario.
Appreciate the input! ((Fact is I'm a snob and love showing when I have MEGA BURNZZZZ!!!))
:bigsmile:
Me personally, I like having just one number a day to worry about. I log my exercise anyway and I am always over BMR so I don't worry about it...my activity level is correct. Those that have done VLCD for a long time...just to get them used to eating and keeping things simple...I suggest sticking with this routine. But some like doing it the other. Personal preference.0 -
I will be the voice on the other side. My activities are typically large burns of 1000 calories or more per activity. I power walk at 4+mph for up to 2.5-3 hours and I cycle as many as 50 miles at a 16-17mph pace. Then I have several rest days. So i have chosen a tweener factor (Between Sedentary and Light Activity) and add back my net HRM burned calories after subtracting the TDEE calories and the 20% cut. More complicated, but more accurate for me anyway. Like was mentioned either method works.0
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I tried doing it the official way (TDEE minus a cut) and found that it was too much food on my non-workout days and not enough on the days I did work out. Right now I have my goal set to MFP's lowest deficit (half a pound a week) which puts me at netting 2000 a day. It ends up working out perfectly for me. Just the right amount of food on my off days and also enough on my workout days. I do plan on trying the official way again at some point, but for now this is working.0
