Metabolic Reset with a TDEE over 3000 Calories! EEK
thatjulesgirl
Posts: 200 Member
Ok so firstly - apologies if this has already been covered (it probably has, somewhere but after half an hour of sifting through posts I figured I should just ask already!)...
I'm very obese so obviously I want to be losing weight. I found this group a while ago and have veeeeery loosely been incorporating the philosophies (have been eating at my BMR - around 2200 - for about 6 weeks now).
During the two weeks over Christmas I basically threw my 'diet' out the window and was eating over 3000 calories a day. Granted it was terrible, processed food and I was suuuure I'd gained 3 or 4kgs (8 or 9lbs)... but I weighed myself this morning and actually LOST almost a kilo. This has made me think that the extra calories are actually doing what all you clever people say they will so I'm attempting to commit myself to EM2WL.
So I'm now starting a metabolic reset, but my biggest concern is that, as I am 5'7" and 293lbs, my TDEE is 3300. That number, to me, seems insanely high and I'm really not even sure HOW you eat 3300 worth of food without adding fatty, processed stuff to suck up some calories!
I'm keen to hear from anyone else who's started this as an obese person with a TDEE over 3000 calories - did you eat the full amount? Is there some kind of different system for obese TDEEs? Any advice would be *greatly* appreciated!!
I'm very obese so obviously I want to be losing weight. I found this group a while ago and have veeeeery loosely been incorporating the philosophies (have been eating at my BMR - around 2200 - for about 6 weeks now).
During the two weeks over Christmas I basically threw my 'diet' out the window and was eating over 3000 calories a day. Granted it was terrible, processed food and I was suuuure I'd gained 3 or 4kgs (8 or 9lbs)... but I weighed myself this morning and actually LOST almost a kilo. This has made me think that the extra calories are actually doing what all you clever people say they will so I'm attempting to commit myself to EM2WL.
So I'm now starting a metabolic reset, but my biggest concern is that, as I am 5'7" and 293lbs, my TDEE is 3300. That number, to me, seems insanely high and I'm really not even sure HOW you eat 3300 worth of food without adding fatty, processed stuff to suck up some calories!
I'm keen to hear from anyone else who's started this as an obese person with a TDEE over 3000 calories - did you eat the full amount? Is there some kind of different system for obese TDEEs? Any advice would be *greatly* appreciated!!
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First, TDEE is based on BMR.
Is your BMR based on bodyfat%, or the age, weight, height method.
The former is Katch and most accurate, the latter is Mifflin like MFP uses or Harris like fat2fit uses and is especially inflated when overweight.
So first, use the Katch BMR so your foundation is as accurate as possible.
Second, TDEE level was based on what exactly?
That standard table is from a 1919 study, and doesn't take into account 1 hr of walking is different than 1 hr of lifting is difference than 1 hr of running.
So that could also be inflating an already inflated BMR. Sounds like you picked Moderately Active.
May or may not be correct.
Try this for getting your bodyfat %, getting BMR based on that, using Activity Calculator based on much more recent research.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/813720-spreadsheet-bmr-tdee-deficit-macro-calcs-hrm-zones
But indeed, sounds like if you didn't gain weight, your metabolism raised quickly, if you even were that low.
Fortunately, when really overweight, you have a big margin for error, so that's probably why you didn't cause any problems.
But you get up there by eating calorie dense stuff along with great fruits and vegetables, and enjoy your wine and some breads.0 -
I'm not obese but I have a pretty high TDEE, maintaining on around 2800 cals. It used to be a struggle to fit it all in and I had to focus on calorie dense foods - nuts, avocados, full fat dairy (cheese, cheese and more cheese!), using more oil when cooking etc.
My body has adjusted now though and I can't imagine eating much less than that now and when I go back into a cut I plan to still eat around 2500.
Drinking your cals will help get more in when you're not feeling too hungry - milk (with protein shakes, coffee, hot chocolate, etc) is great here and also keeps the protein going in. Enjoy your food and drink and good luck on your journey!0 -
First, TDEE is based on BMR.
Is your BMR based on bodyfat%, or the age, weight, height method.
The former is Katch and most accurate, the latter is Mifflin like MFP uses or Harris like fat2fit uses and is especially inflated when overweight.
So first, use the Katch BMR so your foundation is as accurate as possible.
Second, TDEE level was based on what exactly?
That standard table is from a 1919 study, and doesn't take into account 1 hr of walking is different than 1 hr of lifting is difference than 1 hr of running.
So that could also be inflating an already inflated BMR. Sounds like you picked Moderately Active.
May or may not be correct.
Try this for getting your bodyfat %, getting BMR based on that, using Activity Calculator based on much more recent research.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/813720-spreadsheet-bmr-tdee-deficit-macro-calcs-hrm-zones
But indeed, sounds like if you didn't gain weight, your metabolism raised quickly, if you even were that low.
Fortunately, when really overweight, you have a big margin for error, so that's probably why you didn't cause any problems.
But you get up there by eating calorie dense stuff along with great fruits and vegetables, and enjoy your wine and some breads.
Far out - THANK YOU. This is the wealth of information I knew I'd find in here. I always thought the calculators I was using seemed too simplistic - I lead a pretty sedentary life (student, studying, on my bum most of the day) however I lift heavy three times a week and do 40 mins to 1hr of moderate cardio on my off days (usually take at least one weekend day off, if not both).
How you accurately encompass that in "moderately active" / "not active" etc... it seemed off. I will definitely go and recalculate as accurately as I can! Thanks again.0 -
Reset is really used for people who have hurt their metabolisms with years of low cals. I would think you could just go to cut? Anyone?0
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After Using the Katch Formula my bmr is 1730 .Wow if this is accurate my upon my bodyfat then 140 is lean mass 51 is fat weight. But here's the thing when i had my setting on 1800 calories i see why i was hungry cause when i multiply it by sedentary 1.2 it came to 2076. Being that i do housekeeping m-f for 7 hours along with workouts m-sun I'm very active which means my tdee is 2984 and for moderate is 2681.Wow is this 1200 calorie stuff has got to go.0
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