Well, last year I lost 15 lbs only to gain 10-15 back... the weight loss is extremely hard.

I lost most when I overexercised after binges... and kept my net at 400-800 most days...

Now, I'm just trying to eat enough and stay high in calories because hunger never helps me avoid a binge...the stricter I am, the harder I fall later.

I don't lose weight when I binge. :-/ I've lost 12 pounds this month and have not binged at all. I plan snacks that enjoy within my daily calorie allotment, like a 100 cal pack of Pringles at night or a few Hershey's kisses with lunch. And I had to change my mindset so that I didn't feel that need to binge. That's the biggest challenge, in my opinion. If you feel deprived you will always binge.

1) Get and maintain a positive "can-do" attitude. It makes all the difference. 2) cut out any and all flour based products. This includes canned soup thickened with any kind of flour. Just try it for a week and see what happens.

I eat wheat and flour and have also lost my urge to binge. I think every person is different. Try different things and discover what is best for you. The main thing is to reprogram your brain so you don't binge anymore and the weight will come off. I have gone 22 days (and counting) without binging after four years of giving into every craving. Turn to MFP for support - it helps to have support of people going through the same thing. My friends and family definitely don't understand!

First question you should ask is how to stop binging. The weight will come off after you do that. Something I discovered by mistake is, wheat was apparently fueling my binging. After binging almost daily for at least the past 15 years, I had two realizations. first, I thought I was just very hungry, that turned out to be false. Second, wheat was fueling my binge.
I joined MFP and in my effort to get on a better daily diet, I decided to eat only meat, fruit, vegetables, and dairy. I had a tough time for the first couple of days. Next thing I know I have almost zero urge to binge. I kept thinking how great it was that I had such an easy time of it. I finally realized that with out the wheat I was getting better very rapidly. I am now on binge free day 7 and I feel 90% less bingy that day one. as far as the wheat, the explanation is a long and boring one and I will only come back and post that if you want me to. So, I think you should 1) Get and maintain a positive "can-do" attitude. It makes all the difference. 2) cut out any and all flour based products. This includes canned soup thickened with any kind of flour. Just try it for a week and see what happens.

That's because you aren't eating carbs, carbs are what makes us crave things. Ever hear that people on atkins lose their appetite? That's why. They're not eating carbs. Wheat doesn't make you fat, too many calories make you fat. I don't think a life without wheat products is substantial, and for some people it's just going to deprive them.

I try to have a "treat" every day. Sometimes I have 2-3 Hershey's kisses with lunch, or a 110 calorie pack of Pringles, or a big bowl of popcorn... something that is satisfying for me and indulgent. That tricks my brain into remembering that I'm not depriving myself. I also have to do a lot of research to find recipes that I really like and are within my calorie goal. If I follow someone else's meal plan full of foods that I'm indifferent towards, I cave and order takeout or buy snacks from the store and binge. Since I've started finding good recipes for things I really like I have stopped ordering take out and have saved a lot of $$$$ - and extra perk. :-)

First question you should ask is how to stop binging. The weight will come off after you do that. Something I discovered by mistake is, wheat was apparently fueling my binging. After binging almost daily for at least the past 15 years, I had two realizations. first, I thought I was just very hungry, that turned out to be false. Second, wheat was fueling my binge.
I joined MFP and in my effort to get on a better daily diet, I decided to eat only meat, fruit, vegetables, and dairy. I had a tough time for the first couple of days. Next thing I know I have almost zero urge to binge. I kept thinking how great it was that I had such an easy time of it. I finally realized that with out the wheat I was getting better very rapidly. I am now on binge free day 7 and I feel 90% less bingy that day one. as far as the wheat, the explanation is a long and boring one and I will only come back and post that if you want me to. So, I think you should 1) Get and maintain a positive "can-do" attitude. It makes all the difference. 2) cut out any and all flour based products. This includes canned soup thickened with any kind of flour. Just try it for a week and see what happens.

That's because you aren't eating carbs, carbs are what makes us crave things. Ever hear that people on atkins lose their appetite? That's why. They're not eating carbs. Wheat doesn't make you fat, too many calories make you fat. I don't think a life without wheat products is substantial, and for some people it's just going to deprive them.

False. I was on many low carb regimens and NEVER had the results I had after eliminating wheat. Not all carbs do the same thing in our bodies. Wheat sends our bodies bloodsugar on a rollercoaster which keeps us hungry. For ME, I had restricted my carbs to 100 or less per day for about 5 weeks. No matter what I did, I stayed extremely hungry. Only after eliminating wheat carbs did I get results. I am currently not on a low carb regimen, but a no wheat regimen. I am losing weight and not binging for the first time in YEARS. It is no coincidence. I do not assume that everyone else will have my experience. But I do think it is important to explore as many avenues as possible to get tothe root of one's individual problem.

No, WHITE PROCESSED CARBS do that to blood sugar levels. Whole grain and whole wheat metabolize slowly.
White bread= A quick rise in blood sugar, and quick drop.
Whole grain= A slow rise, and slow drop.

Being an athlete, we do "white carb builds" the night before a meet. Because it turns into sugar when it hits the blood stream. Sugar is energy. We do it to make sure our energy stores are full.

First question you should ask is how to stop binging. The weight will come off after you do that. Something I discovered by mistake is, wheat was apparently fueling my binging. After binging almost daily for at least the past 15 years, I had two realizations. first, I thought I was just very hungry, that turned out to be false. Second, wheat was fueling my binge.
I joined MFP and in my effort to get on a better daily diet, I decided to eat only meat, fruit, vegetables, and dairy. I had a tough time for the first couple of days. Next thing I know I have almost zero urge to binge. I kept thinking how great it was that I had such an easy time of it. I finally realized that with out the wheat I was getting better very rapidly. I am now on binge free day 7 and I feel 90% less bingy that day one. as far as the wheat, the explanation is a long and boring one and I will only come back and post that if you want me to. So, I think you should 1) Get and maintain a positive "can-do" attitude. It makes all the difference. 2) cut out any and all flour based products. This includes canned soup thickened with any kind of flour. Just try it for a week and see what happens.

That's because you aren't eating carbs, carbs are what makes us crave things. Ever hear that people on atkins lose their appetite? That's why. They're not eating carbs. Wheat doesn't make you fat, too many calories make you fat. I don't think a life without wheat products is substantial, and for some people it's just going to deprive them.

False. I was on many low carb regimens and NEVER had the results I had after eliminating wheat. Not all carbs do the same thing in our bodies. Wheat sends our bodies bloodsugar on a rollercoaster which keeps us hungry. For ME, I had restricted my carbs to 100 or less per day for about 5 weeks. No matter what I did, I stayed extremely hungry. Only after eliminating wheat carbs did I get results. I am currently not on a low carb regimen, but a no wheat regimen. I am losing weight and not binging for the first time in YEARS. It is no coincidence. I do not assume that everyone else will have my experience. But I do think it is important to explore as many avenues as possible to get tothe root of one's individual problem.

No, WHITE PROCESSED CARBS do that to blood sugar levels. Whole grain and whole wheat metabolize slowly.
White bread= A quick rise in blood sugar, and quick drop.
Whole grain= A slow rise, and slow drop.

Being an athlete, we do "white carb builds" the night before a meet. Because it turns into sugar when it hits the blood stream. Sugar is energy. We do it to make sure our energy stores are full.

Is say, a baked potato and a side of broccoli a white processed carb? Nope. How about a side of beans and brown rice? Nope. A glass of milk? Nope. You apparently don't see what I am saying. Wheat free does NOT equal carb free. Not even processed. You can easily get processed food without wheat. Candy for example, marshmallows, ice cream. And yes, wheat SPIKES bloodsugar and then sharply drops it again triggering hunger. Don't take MY word for it. Go get yourself a bloodglucose monitor. You can get one for about ten bucks at a drugstore that comes with several testing strips, lancets and a lancing device. Then you can fill out the rebate form to get yourself a refund. I have a one touch ultra mini. (no, I am not diabetic before you go there) eat yourself some "healthy whole grains" such as whole wheat what ever. Test your blood sugar maybe 5 minutes later. You will be at 140+. Test again in an hour, then another hour. See for yourself. I am not going to go back and forth with someone who doesn't want to think outside of their black and white box. You can continue however. I don't really care.

I eat wheat all the time and I have lost 13 pounds and don't have the urge to binge. It's largely psychological.

I think different things affect different people in various ways, no single person is going to be right on this.
Just having a sweet potato can trigger the urge to binge for me sometimes.
I think a lot of it is also down to getting the correct balance of foods.
It is true there is supposedly an addictive component in today's wheat that can cause people to crave more and more of it, which is why some go for sprouted bread or make their own bread using organic ingredients.
In the end, one could argue for or against many, many foods and find papers to support both sides, as in the case of the frequent heated discussions on the forums about dairy, clean vs dirty, carbs, etc etc. I think each person needs to explore for themselves, what impacts their body both positively and negatively as in the end, only we know our own bodies. You cannot know someone else's.

Totally agree! I think though that it never hurts to try out new things and see how they work. I never thought to explore wheat or grains. I stumbled across that trigger by mistake. I think an open mind will go a very long way. Which is why I only put my own experience on the table. I would love to see everyone succeed.

But it really does irk me when people think they know it all and refuse to think that they might for one second be wrong. It is not as black and white as some make it out to be. I don't normally entertain these argumentative types as I have in this. I guess I just feel like I can convince them to do their own research.

I think everyone is different and no need to argue about who is right. I have found that white flour products trigger me. Not necessarily wheat, but processed wheat for sure. And processed sugar. And overly processed everything.

I think we just have to never give up, like someone else said, and find what triggers us and eliminate it, whether it be a food or an emotion. It's a slow process and we never "get there". It's a lifetime recovery, unfortunately. I have to be vigilant every day or I will go back to my bingeing ways. It can be done though, I've lost weight and kept it off primarily due to exercise and MFP. Despite my weekly (2-3x week) binges.

I am not concerned with being "right", because I know it is all very individual. I do feel though, that since it can be so different for everyone, that will do no harm in checking some otherwise seemingly innocent culprits. You never know if you don't try. :flowerforyou:

Same here for the bread and staying up late. I used to bake my own fresh bread. But good golly I was packing it in like crazy. I finally had to stop baking bread. I was baking two loaves almost everyday. The plus was, all that kneading dough was kind of a work out. If I stay up late, I will start searching for nibbles here and there and before I know it eat way more than I should.

I have a huge bowl of carrots that I cut into match sticks in the fridge. LOL... My husband thinks Im a head case when I get the big 6lb bag of carrots every week.

To those of u who have lost weight while suffering with BED, how did u do it?? I dont know if im asking this correctly. Like how often did u binge and still lose weight?

I am not able to lose weight if I am in a binge cycle (several days in a row) or even if I binge a couple of times a week. Like many others, my binges consist of calorie dense, highly processed foods, and they are the kinds of foods that seem to promote more cravings of the same. The best I can do is maintain my regular activity schedule and try not to let a setback in one area (eating) allow me to get lax in other areas, like keeping active. If I am able to prevent a complete wellness breakdown and continue with the self-care activities that help me, I feel good.

I've read that compensating for a binge by restricting calories and/or exercising excessively is counterproductive; those behaviors set up yet another binge because the body and mind are so deprived of needed caloric energy. So, I don't do these kinds of compensating behaviors; I just try to get back on track as soon as possible.

I try not to pressure myself too much to lose weight in a given week if I am dealing with binge urges; that really creates too much anxiety for me or too much of a sense of failure. The priority for me at that point is to quash binge urges or behavior.

My MFP friends are great. They are so NON-judgmental, so I feel like I can share with them the real deal. They have a way of encouraging me when I am struggling.

I know this doesn't quite answer your question, but this is my experience. :flowerforyou:

I know people don't like to leave their comfort zones. When all the thinking has been done for us it makes it easy to simply settle in. That's just human nature. It is also the very thought process that has kept me in a rut for years. Only after changing this about myself was I able to even begin to see a change change in my body.

I'm glad whatever you are doing is helping you but you are coming off as if this is 'right' and what the other person had said is wrong and its not that wrong. I eat whole wheat products all the time because it does not spike up my blood sugar compare to 'white' process carbs, I keep tabs on my blood sugar level since I was diagnose with pre-dietbeties over a couple of years ago but it has appeared to be reverse (I don't get pre-dietbeties type of readings anymore) but I'm still in a habit of checking my blood levels and Ive never ran into an issue with whole wheat grains. Yesterday I had whole wheat grains in probably every meal and even whole grain crackers as a snack and had perfect readings the whole day, ranging from 91 to 97 with one of those readings taken close after I had ate my crackers.

If someone wants to try to get rid of wheat products and see if it helps them and if it does then good, whatever works, its just many people don't pay attention if they are truly eating a whole wheat product or one in disguise as a whole wheat product (of what we would expect a whole wheat product to be) and there is nothing wrong with looking into that either before getting rid of wheat products in general.

To the original question, its hard but I think the thread in this group forum on how to have a plan has alot of good ideas. That's basically what I do. If I'm able I sometimes take a nap to pass through it. The binging are becoming less and less frequent and I believe its from not giving in to them as I would before. I'm hoping to start to see better weight loss now since I've gotten more control over it.

I know people don't like to leave their comfort zones. When all the thinking has been done for us it makes it easy to simply settle in. That's just human nature. It is also the very thought process that has kept me in a rut for years. Only after changing this about myself was I able to even begin to see a change change in my body.

I'm glad whatever you are doing is helping you but you are coming off as if this is 'right' and what the other person had said is wrong and its not that wrong. I eat whole wheat products all the time because it does not spike up my blood sugar compare to 'white' process carbs, I keep tabs on my blood sugar level since I was diagnose with pre-dietbeties over a couple of years ago but it has appeared to be reverse (I don't get pre-dietbeties type of readings anymore) but I'm still in a habit of checking my blood levels and Ive never ran into an issue with whole wheat grains. Yesterday I had whole wheat grains in probably every meal and even whole grain crackers as a snack and had perfect readings the whole day, ranging from 91 to 97 with one of those readings taken close after I had ate my crackers.

If someone wants to try to get rid of wheat products and see if it helps them and if it does then good, whatever works, its just many people don't pay attention if they are truly eating a whole wheat product or one in disguise as a whole wheat product (of what we would expect a whole wheat product to be) and there is nothing wrong with looking into that either before getting rid of wheat products in general.

To the original question, its hard but I think the thread in this group forum on how to have a plan has alot of good ideas. That's basically what I do. If I'm able I sometimes take a nap to pass through it. The binging are becoming less and less frequent and I believe its from not giving in to them as I would before. I'm hoping to start to see better weight loss now since I've gotten more control over it.

No need to get nasty there cowgirl. I never said I was RIGHT. I said THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND THAT IT MAY POSSIBLY WORK FOR OTHERS. Why in the world would I want to ignore what is blatantly working in my own life? If I don't HAVE to endure the urge to binge because I found a way to eliminate that urge, that should not upset you. But somehow it does. I wont return to argue with you further. And I certainly don't think people have any business telling me what I did and did not do. I know for a fact what dietary modification I have made and what happened with each one. This is not black and white. Some people binge for emotional reasons, psychological reasons, some may binge for DIETARY reasons. It is not the same for everyone and people who feel the need to attack someone who has been successful simply have an issue within themselves that needs addressing. Enjoy your next binge.

Hmm, I think you need to take a look at who is upset, being nasty and attacking. There was no attack. You had suggested to a person to take their blood glucose, this would be to prove you're right since there is no other reason to even suggest such a thing. I was letting you know my personal experience since I do check my blood glucose levels and they are align with what the girl was saying about white processed carbs. You seem to be upset and offended since it counters with what you have said and as I said if it works for you then that is great but as you suggest to others I am suggesting the same, go outside the box and pay attention to ingredients. That is for those who may not.