Deadlifts in a plie?
hofosho1020
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Does anyone, or has anyone else tried, doing the deadlifts in a plie position rather than the normal? I find it's much easier to keep my back straight and a nice change of pace with the thigh muscles....wondered if I'm the only one?
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You mean a sumo deadlift?0
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like, heels touching and toes out? Or just toes pointed slightly out? or do you mean like a sumo-deadlift?
I like my toes out, a bit, personally.
ALso I thought this said "deadlifts in a pile" and I thought it was going to be very exciting.0 -
like, heels touching and toes out? Or just toes pointed slightly out? or do you mean like a sumo-deadlift?
I like my toes out, a bit, personally.
ALso I thought this said "deadlifts in a pile" and I thought it was going to be very exciting.
I also thought this said "deadlifts in a pile" and while I had no idea what it meant, I had to click on it right away.
Not gonna' lie, I'm a little disappointed. :laugh:0 -
Hmm...toes pointing very much out, not just a little. Not heels touching. I'm probably describing it wrong LOL,.
And, we should definitely investigate the possibility of deadlifts in a pile. HA!0 -
It's probably fine. Everyone squats a little differently anyway. Do whatever is most natural to you because that's how your body moves to begin with, and having to contort ourselves in the name of "form" is never good.
I probably go out about 45 degrees or so with each foot (which would put my feet at a 90-degree angle to each other). It's where I'm most comfortable.0 -
Hmmm.....I'm gonna go out on a limb and against the grain so far and say no :noway: Suma DL is one thing, but I have studied dance and if I'm interpreting it the way I think you mean it then I say no. Form is pretty standard on DL and honestly I have never seen anything even remotely close to a plie stance. Then again, I ain't no expert!0
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Sad because I thought I was going to read about pile deadlifting.
I turn my toes out slightly and take a little bit wider stance for deadlifts (sometimes I forget to do this and then my hip reminds me why I should). It's not wide enough to be a sumo, but it's a little more comfortable for me.0 -
Hip? Hip?? Got my attention... If I may ask, what does your hip do? I am frustrated by creaky, cracking, sore hips at times so anything that will help is good.Sad because I thought I was going to read about pile deadlifting.
I turn my toes out slightly and take a little bit wider stance for deadlifts (sometimes I forget to do this and then my hip reminds me why I should). It's not wide enough to be a sumo, but it's a little more comfortable for me.0 -
Oh haha pff she said "deadlifts" and I thought she said "squats".
My brain is NOT working today I swear! :blushing:
Yes, there is such a thing as "sumo deadlifts" where you shove your feet out about 45 degrees but I think it requires for you to hold the bar a little different.
Otherwise, nothing to see here, and disregard what I said earlier. Jeez.
But plié stance, probably not advisable at all because wouldn't your toes have to be pointing out exactly opposite each other? I can't imagine doing a DL that way. :huh:0 -
Maybe I've invented something, LOL.
It needs a name. I'll ask my trainer if it has one. Clearly it isn't a legit SL though.
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the bigger question surely is can they -give- you piles? lol!
haven't yet faced deadlifts, the potential for shin-scraping looks painful..0 -
the bigger question surely is can they -give- you piles? lol!
haven't yet faced deadlifts, the potential for shin-scraping looks painful..
I wear long pants on deadlift days for exactly that reason. You're going to be touching your legs with the bar if you have proper form. Period.
P.S. This is a sumo deadlift, which is fine to do actually, and a lot of women find themselves more naturally suited to it (I may actually switch to that myself after last week's back tweak incident):
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the bigger question surely is can they -give- you piles? lol!
haven't yet faced deadlifts, the potential for shin-scraping looks painful..
I wear long pants on deadlift days for exactly that reason. You're going to be touching your legs with the bar if you have proper form. Period.
P.S. This is a sumo deadlift, which is fine to do actually, and a lot of women find themselves more naturally suited to it (I may actually switch to that myself after last week's back tweak incident):
Looks awesome, actually, trying TODAY. Sorry about your tweak. Tweaks = bad! Thanks for the great pic.0 -
great pic, freaky shoes! thanks for the trouser tip, I always wear shorts as I'm a hot bod but might need to take that into consideration! 0
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Sorry ho but I don't think DL in plie stance is just not a legit SL exercise.....I don't think that's a legit exercise at all!
I also don't understand how shins get scraped by the bar when it's touching? The bar does touch my legs....but my bar is smooth? :laugh: This is one thing I've never understood! Maybe I'm doing something wrong!0 -
It's actually pretty common that people scrape their legs doing deadlifts. A lot of competitions require competitors to wear knee high socks so they dont end up scraping and then bleeding on the bar.
As for this exercise I dont know enough about it to comment sorry.0 -
Hmm...toes pointing very much out, not just a little. Not heels touching. I'm probably describing it wrong LOL,.
And, we should definitely investigate the possibility of deadlifts in a pile. HA!
i always DL with toes pointing out. but i am rather "duck-footed" to being with.0 -
great pic, freaky shoes! thanks for the trouser tip, I always wear shorts as I'm a hot bod but might need to take that into consideration!
Long socks.0 -
I realize it's common to scrape legs while doing DL's.....it doesn't happen to me though so i'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong???
I do think it's common for there to be a "slight" turnout when DL'ing......but turnout in a plie stance is different....again,unless I'm misunderstanding Ho!0 -
I realize it's common to scrape legs while doing DL's.....it doesn't happen to me though so i'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong???
No, contrary to popular belief, you don't have to tear up your shins when doing deadlifts 0 -
The bar hasn't touched my shins. I can't see why it would. I've got my arms placed inside my legs. Maybe that's why?0
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I realize it's common to scrape legs while doing DL's.....it doesn't happen to me though so i'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong???
No, contrary to popular belief, you don't have to tear up your shins when doing deadlifts
Thank you taso.....the complex that was beginning to form in regards to my non-scraped shins has now subsided 0 -
I realize it's common to scrape legs while doing DL's.....it doesn't happen to me though so i'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong???
No, contrary to popular belief, you don't have to tear up your shins when doing deadlifts
No, I don't either. I'm going to check my form next time, but I'm pretty sure it's correct. The idea is you almost touch, but not quite. Also, my mid-foot (what the bar is supposed to stay over) is well over 2" (the diameter of the Oly bar) from my shins, so unless I were bringing it closer in to my body, there's no way it would touch.
Re smooth/not smooth - the Oly I use has knurling to mark legal grip widths, and I'm pretty sure that would scrape far more than a smooth one would, if it were to contact skin.
Hack squats, however, have left me with lovely bruises all up the backs of my calves...0 -
I do think it's common for there to be a "slight" turnout when DL'ing......but turnout in a plie stance is different....again,unless I'm misunderstanding Ho!
In a plie, you keep your bum pulled in, and your body in a straight line, and you do not hinge the back. A deadlift is specifically a hip hinge exercise. So, I agree that doing a "plie deadlift" does not make sense with proper form for either of those movements. I think the OP should do sumo deadlifts instead. A plie squat (in a wide second position) would work better.0 -
I do think it's common for there to be a "slight" turnout when DL'ing......but turnout in a plie stance is different....again,unless I'm misunderstanding Ho!
In a plie, you keep your bum pulled in, and your body in a straight line, and you do not hinge the back. A deadlift is specifically a hip hinge exercise. So, I agree that doing a "plie deadlift" does not make sense with proper form for either of those movements. I think the OP should do sumo deadlifts instead. A plie squat (in a wide second position) would work better.
Good call :happy: :drinker: I was actually only considering the turnout....1st position for conventional DL, not even considering how you don't bend while doing them! Second position for sumo would be a little closer, but I still think it's too much turnout to incorporate into the lift.0 -
I realize it's common to scrape legs while doing DL's.....it doesn't happen to me though so i'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong???
No, contrary to popular belief, you don't have to tear up your shins when doing deadlifts
No, I don't either. I'm going to check my form next time, but I'm pretty sure it's correct. The idea is you almost touch, but not quite. Also, my mid-foot (what the bar is supposed to stay over) is well over 2" (the diameter of the Oly bar) from my shins, so unless I were bringing it closer in to my body, there's no way it would touch.
Re smooth/not smooth - the Oly I use has knurling to mark legal grip widths, and I'm pretty sure that would scrape far more than a smooth one would, if it were to contact skin.
Hack squats, however, have left me with lovely bruises all up the backs of my calves...
I would still insist that the bar still make contact with your shin. You just don't have to tear your shins up!0 -
There are so many men around here lately, I swear I can hardly tell what group I'm in anymore.0
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I don't have a smooth bar; mine has knurls all over the place, and I have long legs that somehow are always in the way, so not wearing long pants on deadlift days is not an option. I'm not the most coordinated, graceful of people, so self-protection is paramount. :laugh:0
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There are so many men around here lately, I swear I can hardly tell what group I'm in anymore.
sorry. yes this is awkward. should we leave? we could leave.0 -
There are so many men around here lately, I swear I can hardly tell what group I'm in anymore.
sorry. yes this is awkward. should we leave? we could leave.
Taso I always find your comments super helpful, in any group I see them in.....so I'm not quite ready to vote the boys out yet!0
