Season 3 - Episode 15 "This Sorrowful Life" (03/24/13)

AnaNotBanana
AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
This thread serves as a place to discuss speculation, and then reaction to the 03/24/13 episode

PLEASE REMEMBER TO NOT DISCUSS COMIC BOOK SPOILERS IN EPISODE/SEASON THREADS

AMC Sneak Peek:

http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/sneak-peek-episode-315-the-walking-dead-this-sorrowful-life

YouTube Trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uEPbvtzMQLE
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  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    Nooooooooooo!!!!! How did I go from hating Merle so much to being super bummed that the Governor killed him???
  • S1NN3R
    S1NN3R Posts: 452 Member
    Nooooooooooo!!!!! How did I go from hating Merle so much to being super bummed that the Governor killed him???

    exactly my feelings! Nooooooo...poor Daryl!
  • Booksandbeaches
    Booksandbeaches Posts: 1,791 Member
    The last 5 minutes were so sad.. Poor Daryl!!

    This was a great episode. Wish Merle could have lived...at least he took out some of the Woodbury people with him though. He did for Daryl because he realized Daryl belongs with the Prison group now.

    Why did the Governor bite off Merle's fingers like Gollum from LOTR?!
  • larsensue
    larsensue Posts: 461 Member
    OMG! Holy SH*$!!! Stunned is all I can say and only one episode left! NOT FAIR we have to wait till next fall for the rest......
    POOR Daryl! I hope he will not be ruined for the rest of the show....
  • _the_feniks_
    _the_feniks_ Posts: 3,412 Member
    I'm really hoping Daryl is the one who gets The Governor in the finale next week. And I hope it's messy.

    On another note... I know it's the apocalypse and everything Glen, but you think you could have done a little better than shoving the ring in Maggie's hand?
  • RHOyalT
    RHOyalT Posts: 204 Member
    I'm really hoping Daryl is the one who gets The Governor in the finale next week. And I hope it's messy.

    On another note... I know it's the apocalypse and everything Glen, but you think you could have done a little better than shoving the ring in Maggie's hand?

    I was thinking that he could have gone and gotten her ring that he hadn't just removed from the finger he cut off a walker!
  • I also went from hating merle to being so upset at the end of the episode! Marvelous episode!
  • Booksandbeaches
    Booksandbeaches Posts: 1,791 Member
    It was a nice ring...must have been about 3-4 carats, but still...:noway:

    I'm glad Rick decided he shouldn't be making all the decisions. I'm so over seeing him still seeing Lori. I can't believe that he even thought the Governor would honor the deal.

    They need to let Michonne talk more. She showed great shrewdness in how she got to Merle. She knew his weak spots. And she's so badass..she even killed two walkers while tied up. She's right up there with Glenn who took down a walker while tied to a chair.
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member

    This was a great episode. Wish Merle could have lived...at least he took out some of the Woodbury people with him though. He did for Daryl because he realized Daryl belongs with the Prison group now.

    Good point!! I didn't even think of that! It looks like in the last episode the prison crew has decided to run. But I think that since Merle took out some of Woodbury's biggest goons they might have a fighting chance now. I think there will be big losses on both sides in the last episode.
  • morningmud
    morningmud Posts: 477 Member
    I was like, all the abandoned jewelry stores around and Glen goes for a Walker's ring.

    But yea, I thought that Merle would be quite an asset when the groups battled. Sucks to see him killed off but what a scene with Daryl finding Walker Merle!
  • Booksandbeaches
    Booksandbeaches Posts: 1,791 Member
    I was like, all the abandoned jewelry stores around and Glen goes for a Walker's ring.

    :laugh:

    Yeah, nothing says love like a second hand zombie ring.
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member

    But yea, I thought that Merle would be quite an asset when the groups battled. Sucks to see him killed off but what a scene with Daryl finding Walker Merle!


    That just goes to show how twisted the Governor. He shot him knowing he would turn and be left to wander. It just about killed me when Daryl started crying. :sad: I hope he doesn't go to crazytown like Rick did.
  • KBrenOH
    KBrenOH Posts: 704 Member
    I'm really hoping Daryl is the one who gets The Governor in the finale next week. And I hope it's messy.

    On another note... I know it's the apocalypse and everything Glen, but you think you could have done a little better than shoving the ring in Maggie's hand?

    I was thinking that he could have gone and gotten her ring that he hadn't just removed from the finger he cut off a walker!

    Oh my god thank you! I said the exact same thing to my husband. I mean I'm sure there was a jewelry store around somewhere that had SOMETHING. I'd rather have no ring than a ring off a walker for crying out loud. To me that was just tacky.

    I'm so happy they redeemed Merle before he died, but oh man. My heart literally sank for poor Daryl when he realized that was walker Merle in front of him. I too hope he's the one to kill the Gov., but for some reason, I think when they go to storm the prison next week, I don't think it's going to be a big huge fight like we all think it is. I do half expect to find Rick and the gang gone like someone else suggested. I'm just not sure how they'd finish off the Gov's storyline then.
    I don't think Daryl will go crazytown as someone else put it, but I do think he'll go to the cold and withdrawn stage until Carol can work some magic on him.
  • Booksandbeaches
    Booksandbeaches Posts: 1,791 Member

    That just goes to show how twisted the Governor. He shot him knowing he would turn and be left to wander. It just about killed me when Daryl started crying. :sad: I hope he doesn't go to crazytown like Rick did.


    Yep, it showed how twisted the Governor is. He could have shot Merle in the head and spared him turning into a zombie.
    He wanted Merle to be a subhuman, mindless thing. When Daryl pushed his brother, it was just like an angry little boy pushing an older sibling. It was really well acted. I think Daryl, Merle, Michonne are much stronger mentally than Rick...Maybe Carol will give him Daryl some loving now.

    How cool was that pied piper like drive Merle took with a bottle of whiskey in one hand and a bunch of walkers following behind. Way to go down in a blaze of glory.
  • tiffanylacourse
    tiffanylacourse Posts: 2,986 Member
    Never thought I would say it, but Merle went out a HERO!

    Can't wait for next week's episode! :happy:
  • MrsBobaFett
    MrsBobaFett Posts: 802 Member
    What an episode! I cried like a baby watching Daryl cry :sad:
  • _the_feniks_
    _the_feniks_ Posts: 3,412 Member
    The finale is titled "Welcome to the Tombs". In a sneak peek on The Talking Dead you see the gang from Woodbury in the prison yard; which is interestingly devoid of walkers. Think they have set a trap for them in the tombs with the walkers?
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    Can you talk about the COOLEST zombie kill of the show so far?!?!?! Michonne using her restraints like a garrote and chopping that zombie's head off?? Best. Zombie. Kill. Ever.

    I love the description of Merle like the Pied Piper. At first when he was just sitting there drinking and blasting the music I thought "Is he trying to kill himself????" but he had a much better and more bad *kitten* plan!!!
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    I'm really hoping Daryl is the one who gets The Governor in the finale next week. And I hope it's messy.

    On another note... I know it's the apocalypse and everything Glen, but you think you could have done a little better than shoving the ring in Maggie's hand?

    I was thinking that he could have gone and gotten her ring that he hadn't just removed from the finger he cut off a walker!

    Oh my god thank you! I said the exact same thing to my husband. I mean I'm sure there was a jewelry store around somewhere that had SOMETHING. I'd rather have no ring than a ring off a walker for crying out loud. To me that was just tacky.

    I'm so happy they redeemed Merle before he died, but oh man. My heart literally sank for poor Daryl when he realized that was walker Merle in front of him. I too hope he's the one to kill the Gov., but for some reason, I think when they go to storm the prison next week, I don't think it's going to be a big huge fight like we all think it is. I do half expect to find Rick and the gang gone like someone else suggested. I'm just not sure how they'd finish off the Gov's storyline then.
    I don't think Daryl will go crazytown as someone else put it, but I do think he'll go to the cold and withdrawn stage until Carol can work some magic on him.

    Maybe they don't want to finish off the Governor plot line in one season. He's proven to be good for the story and has definitely kept things interesting. Although it might start to wear thin by next season. From the two sneak peeks that I've seen for the season finale it doesn't look like there is a big battle but apparently in interviews Andrew Lincoln has confirmed that there will be MAJOR deaths in the season 3 finale. Eeeeeekkkk!!! I can't wait to see it.
  • KBrenOH
    KBrenOH Posts: 704 Member
    I just hope they don't kill off Daryl. Norman Reedus makes that show for me and while I'd still watch without him, I don't think it would have the same enjoyment.

    Any predictions?

    *edit to add: God I hope they don't drag the Gov. into next season; I'm sick of him at this point. He's as good at making me hate that character as the guy that played Shane was.
  • BryVia12
    BryVia12 Posts: 181 Member
    I'm so bummed that Merle is gone! There is so much more they could have done with him, he was so multi-dimensional. I really hope we get some closure in the finale, I hate the cliff hangers! By the way, I'm totally watching the season 1 marathon right now, Merle's 1st episode is on right now.
  • SMarie10
    SMarie10 Posts: 956 Member
    New way to shop for a wedding ring. Wish Glen would have dropped to one knee and given a proper proposal to Maggie. Thought it was interesting that the Gov was on the Talking dead - I just can't get over all the Brits they have on the show.
    Hats of to the demise of Merle - he was definitely a bad *kitten* zombie - loved that they had him gorging on a corpse.
  • Ashkea76
    Ashkea76 Posts: 7,162 Member
    Thought it was sweet that Glen went to talk with Hershel first, before asking Maggie.

    Merle ruled this episode. Totally thought at first he was going to deliver Michonne to the Gov.....sad also that he died, though I did love to hate him before. Lol

    I doubt they'll kill the Governor, he's a great villain, and they could carry out that story line further. I like the feeling that they're setting booby traps, can't wait to see what's in store...
  • RBXChas
    RBXChas Posts: 2,708 Member
    I know it's the apocalypse and everything Glen, but you think you could have done a little better than shoving the ring in Maggie's hand?

    I had a similar thought. Is their wedding going to be like the last scene of Spaceballs?

    Minister: Do you?
    Lone Star: Yes.
    Minister: Do you?
    Princess Vespa: Yes.
    Minister: Good, you're married.
  • RBXChas
    RBXChas Posts: 2,708 Member
    Can you talk about the COOLEST zombie kill of the show so far?!?!?! Michonne using her restraints like a garrote and chopping that zombie's head off?? Best. Zombie. Kill. Ever.

    I love the description of Merle like the Pied Piper. At first when he was just sitting there drinking and blasting the music I thought "Is he trying to kill himself????" but he had a much better and more bad *kitten* plan!!!

    Yeah, the garrote thing was AWESOME!!! I have come around to think Michonne is the biggest badass on the show, possibly even (dare I say it?) moreso than Daryl. *runs and hides*

    Merle's redemption was positively brilliant! Great shooting for someone who just had a fair amount of straight whiskey, too, especially considering his tolerance is probably pretty low. I also think he might have taken out that kid (the one from Tyreese's group that had been at the prison) when he almost shot the Governor. I kind of felt bad about that because he was just a kid and seemed to be doing what his dad told him to do. By the way, did anyone see if the dad was one of the Woodbury people killed?

    I never really hated Merle and always hoped he'd come around to back up his brother in a big way. I think that was probably the best way he could have gone out. Great acting, great writing.

    But when they were fighting (Merle and the Governor), all I kept saying was, "Why don't you just stab him?!?" Did the Governor break his arm or something? I didn't know if there was something I'd missed.

    Daryl's reaction was Oscar-worthy, no joke. As if he couldn't get any awesome-er, Norman Reedus goes and does a scene like that. Great way to close out the show, too. I am also hoping that Daryl gets the pleasure of doing away with the Governor. I agree that I'm getting tired of him the same way I was getting tired of Shane.

    I'm glad that Rick is realizing that he shouldn't be a dictator. I think there's a lot of strength that's come about in the group that could be beneficial. At this point everyone who's still alive has a good head on his/her shoulders, so you might as well make good use of that.

    Also, has anyone else noticed that Carol's had some good lines lately? Between her telling that one prisoner about how just because she had short hair didn't mean she was a lesbian to her retort to Merle when he said, "You're a late bloomer," and she said something like, "Maybe you are, too." Snappy but dead-on. I've always liked her, but she's really become one of my favorite characters. I used to think her getting together with Daryl would be weird because it seemed more like a mother-son dynamic, but now I'm not so sure. I kind of hope they do get together.

    I'm still wondering if Maggie got pregnant from last week's little romp with Glenn, which would make their getting married particularly fitting (not that it wouldn't happen otherwise). I'm going to guess neither one of them had a condom on hand...
  • peterdt
    peterdt Posts: 820 Member
    The finale is titled "Welcome to the Tombs". In a sneak peek on The Talking Dead you see the gang from Woodbury in the prison yard; which is interestingly devoid of walkers. Think they have set a trap for them in the tombs with the walkers?

    yup. and if you notice at amc there is a sneak peak pic of the episode of Rick crouching in the weeds with a gun. From the preview it looks like they will go into the prison (tombs) looking for Rick and company. But they will not be there. I guess Rick seals that door and Woodbury folks will have to fight their way through a group of walkers to get out.

    I guess they eventually get out but their group cut in half. That would make the odds about even in terms of people. They need to make a final shootout and God knows what will happen then. I guess we will lose some Prison folks. Maybe Glenn or Lori. with them just getting married it would be a nice tragedy and fitting for how they have done the show. The Gov will have some surprises of his own though I guess.

    The prison is boring and nasty and this story has played out. I guess what is left of the group after the battle will be back on the road again looking for a new home. but they need some kind of direction of where to go.

    that's just a guess. but would make for an interesting season ending episode. I would like to see the gov not make it, but somehow I feel that he will.

    I was a bit surprised at what Merle did. Its kind of a sad thing. Merle and Daryl grew up very rough and Merle was a result of that.
  • dxtra30
    dxtra30 Posts: 498 Member
    I know it's the apocalypse and everything Glen, but you think you could have done a little better than shoving the ring in Maggie's hand?

    I had a similar thought. Is their wedding going to be like the last scene of Spaceballs?

    Minister: Do you?
    Lone Star: Yes.
    Minister: Do you?
    Princess Vespa: Yes.
    Minister: Good, you're married.

    ^^ -- LMAO!.. I was thinking that too!

    I thought the episode was good but got better and the ending was a complete SHOCK to me!.. Very said to see Merle die at the end however like previous posters have said I think Michonne got to him and Darryl.. Merle wanted to go out a "HERO" instead of the Bad Guy IMO..

    Just hope next week's episdoe is GOOD for a season ending as it's a LONG wait till October!! .. I'm thinking 1 or 2 main people may die off the show.. Just a guess on my part..

    All in all good episode IMO
  • Booksandbeaches
    Booksandbeaches Posts: 1,791 Member

    Merle's redemption was positively brilliant! Great shooting for someone who just had a fair amount of straight whiskey, too, especially considering his tolerance is probably pretty low. I also think he might have taken out that kid (the one from Tyreese's group that had been at the prison) when he almost shot the Governor. I kind of felt bad about that because he was just a kid and seemed to be doing what his dad told him to do. By the way, did anyone see if the dad was one of the Woodbury people killed?

    Also, has anyone else noticed that Carol's had some good lines lately? Between her telling that one prisoner about how just because she had short hair didn't mean she was a lesbian to her retort to Merle when he said, "You're a late bloomer," and she said something like, "Maybe you are, too." Snappy but dead-on. I've always liked her, but she's really become one of my favorite characters. I used to think her getting together with Daryl would be weird because it seemed more like a mother-son dynamic, but now I'm not so sure. I kind of hope they do get together.

    I think it was that kid from Tyrese's group. Is his name Ben? I think the dad is named Allen. At first I thought it was that asthmatic teen from Woodbury, but now I think it was the teen from Tyrese's group after all. I would have liked it if his father died, but I didn't see him among those Merle took down. And it was interesting Merle shot them in the arm or leg, not the head. So they were wounded, but it was the walkers that did them in.

    How the heck does the Governor, a man with no depth perception and one good eye, move so fast?! This is the second time he did it. The first time was with Lori in last week's episode. He's incredibly fast.

    Carol has good lines! And I love her. She's my favorite female character. That's why she's doomed.
  • RBXChas
    RBXChas Posts: 2,708 Member
    Carol has good lines! And I love her. She's my favorite female character. That's why she's doomed.

    Nooooooo! Daryl will cry again :sad:
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    I was like, all the abandoned jewelry stores around and Glen goes for a Walker's ring.

    :laugh:

    Yeah, nothing says love like a second hand zombie ring.

    You know I'm kind of glad that Glenn didn't do some big romantic gesture. I don't think that would have matched the tone of their relationship thus far. I mean Maggie didn't even like him at the beginning. And they weren't even speaking to each other before last week's episode. I like that he had the more meaningful speech with Herschel. Especially since Herschel had given Glenn a heartfelt speech at the farm when he gave him the watch.