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CarlaChalk78
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Hiya 
I could do with a bit of advice and just want to check I will be doing this right...
I am 6 foot tall and weigh 194 (lost 63 pounds on MFP) but I am stuck!
If I eat more than 1400 I start gaining really fast and to lose weight I am having to net under 1200 ...I like to eat - which is why I got so overweight in the first place. I keep binging after so many days of low cals and insta-gain back what I lost lol
To eat I exercise like crazy .... then get really tired and binge. Rinse and repeat! Rinse and repeat and its not working for me and not how I want to be....
Now looking at all this EMTWL idea I need to know my BMR (1677 ) and TDEE (2151) and possibly have a metabolism reset???? 6 weeks at eating my TDEE????
Now I suspect that is going to pack on quite few pounds I sweated to lose...but I am hoping to not run to my bike or just eat apples this time :O
Any ideas how much I might expect to gain back??? and then to clarify one last point... once the 6 weeks are over I go TDEE - 15% - 20%? at the right activity level.
>< argghhh
I could do with a bit of advice and just want to check I will be doing this right...I am 6 foot tall and weigh 194 (lost 63 pounds on MFP) but I am stuck!
If I eat more than 1400 I start gaining really fast and to lose weight I am having to net under 1200 ...I like to eat - which is why I got so overweight in the first place. I keep binging after so many days of low cals and insta-gain back what I lost lol
To eat I exercise like crazy .... then get really tired and binge. Rinse and repeat! Rinse and repeat and its not working for me and not how I want to be....
Now looking at all this EMTWL idea I need to know my BMR (1677 ) and TDEE (2151) and possibly have a metabolism reset???? 6 weeks at eating my TDEE????
Now I suspect that is going to pack on quite few pounds I sweated to lose...but I am hoping to not run to my bike or just eat apples this time :O
Any ideas how much I might expect to gain back??? and then to clarify one last point... once the 6 weeks are over I go TDEE - 15% - 20%? at the right activity level.
>< argghhh
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You basically have it right. The idea is to do a nice reset to re-feed your body so that it can heal and never cut so low again that you feel the need to binge.
You will gain scale weight when you up calories but most of that will be water weight. While you are doing a reset you want to get into/up your intensity of weight lifting. You want to increase your lean muscle mass. Once you finish your reset you can cut. The idea is to cut for 3-4 weeks and then have a week eating at TDEE and rinse repeat that cycle till you have lost all the FAT you want. (Notice I didn't say weight) Once you are where you want to be size/fat wise you basically eat at TDEE.
How much you might gain back varies wildly. Most people will see an initial jump on the scale and then it levels off.0 -
Thank you so much for your reply!
I am going to do the Jillian Michaels body revolution and some strength training workouts (nerd fitness and use your body as a gym). Been doing it a bit for a while and I like it Would that pass as lifting ?? I don't have any lifting equipment barbells etc... 0 -
I'm not really familiar with those workouts, but some strength training is going to be better than none. Lots of peeps on here have run out to get a beginner set of barbells after seeing some others progress here. I am lucky to have a pretty well stocked gym to go to.
My one other piece of advice: Take measurements and pictures NOW. So when you get on that scale and it shows a gain you can whip out your measuring tape and see that your measurements are the same or even lower.0 -
Those were my thought exactly. I've spent way too many years eating 1,200 cal and working out like crazy and not seeing any weight loss at all. I've been with MFP for 3 weeks now and just 2 day's into it I did the calculations at scoobyworkshop & EM2WL and my BMR is 1453 & my TDEE is 2252 so my TDEE cut 20% puts me at 1,800 so on day 3 of my program I switched from 1,200 to 1,800. I was also scared that I would gain a ton of weight and have to do the "reset for 6 wks". All I could think of was OH my, how much heavier am I going to get? But I went ahead and did it anyways. I already knew 1,200 calories wasn't right for me. I workout 5x week (Body Pump, spin, boxing, TM etc) I've lost 2 lbs so far - of course not as much as I would like but at least it's a weight loss. I know this must be "somewhat in the range I need to be". I've got an injury so I haven't been able to do boxing for several months and our spin class was cancelled so right now I do body pump on M & W and use the weight machines on F. I either do the TM or the stationary bike on T & TH and sometimes I do that on the day's I do weights. I workout for anywhere between 45 - 90 minutes a day. I don't "workout" on S & S - only because I go to the gym on my way to work and I get enough of a "workout" around the house - LOL
I hope you are lucky enough to lose weight quick into the program if it's what you decide to do. Good luck and keep us posted0 -
Oh yes - definately take pictures and measurements. I weighed myself at the beginning but didn't take pictures & measurements until last week - I figured it was still early enough in my journey that it would be close enough. Of course nobody is seeing them until I have something to compare them to.0
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I will take a picture this time round
I didnt take any before the 63 pound loss and was very camera shy. I shall make sure I do this time round
I honestly wouldn't care if the scale doesn't go down so long as i can see some actual flabby fat g. I have reached the point I can't carry on with the low cals and mad exercise. Don't get me wrong I enjoy to workout.. a lot... but not so I cant have a day off any more or live on apples ><
I am taking 2 days rest (this was my first in weeks) to repair a bit....I have cramps in my calves that you wouldn't believe right now :O and then I shall have a good bash at eating properly at maintain calculations and then add in the exercise with the JM stuff and some dumbells (only little 4.4lb ones) till I can get something heavier?
What sort of weight did you all start with for squats and deadlifts etc ??? I understand its more about form than straight into heavy but I can't imagine my 4.4 lbs weights are going to be any good lol0 -
Well... I started with the 45lb bar for squats and then was COMPLETELY FLOORED to find that I could do 15 reps easy at about 90 lbs... (I'm 5'5 and weigh about 154.) I was also incredibly surprised to find out that the weak link in all this was NOT my core... It was my LEGS. ;-)
Go for it. Do not be afraid of the weight room. Do not be afraid to ask the dudz for help. DO pay attention to your form. DO lift like a man. And DO enjoy your food!0 -
Yup, you've got it right. I'm in a similar boat too. I spent probably a solid 2-3 years on 800-1200 calories and have done a number on my metabolism. If I eat even a bit more, I see instant gains. It's awful. I've only been about a week on higher calories and am inching up slowly (it terrifies me). I LOVE heavy lifting. Invest in a bar if you can with weights (Walmart has a set that is reasonably priced, though not stellar quality...) or at least heavier barbells.
Good luck! Feel free to add me.0 -
Since 2 different posters in this thread commenting about same thing.
"I eat above xxxx and I gain quickly"
How much does your car weigh with a full tank of gas?
How much less does it weigh if it only has 2 gal in it?
Probably 30 lb difference.
The fuel is needed though, and if you always keep it at 2 gal, you'll have increased opportunity for it to not run - to stall out.
If you keep it always topped off, you'll have little to no chance of that happening.
And it takes more fuel to actually drive it while topped off.
If you have been eating at a level that never lets your glucose stores top off with required water - you will gain weight, water weight, fast.
And while eating enough, you will keep it more topped off rather than almost empty.
But guess what, that increased fuel stored is increased metabolism, takes the body more energy to deal with it. So it is good, needed, beneficial weight.
Also - you were going to gain that back anyway when or if you reached goal weight, if you were going to be able to increase eating level at that time.
So many have lost enough muscle mass (engine size), that their eating level becomes their new TDEE, besides it being suppressed.0 -
Measurements all done and pics (scary lol) on day 3 of TDEE and 2 pounds up on the scale aready! Not stressing about it though because tis likely all the extra food in my very happy belly lol0
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Hi, I'm also near 6 ft and am a yoyo dieter losing at 1200 cal but gaining once I ate normally. I'm currently eating around 1700-1800 after initially going straight up to 1900 eating TDEE -15%, sometimes over on the weekend, did this for 8 weeks.
All of the advice here is spot on, however just from personal experience and as we're kinda similar build and repeat dieting pattern you may see more increase in weight then you expect. I gained steadily every week at 1900-2000 (plus my splurges)and it took me a few weeks to notice that I hadn't stabilised my weight at all. I realised ( through the advice here) that my BMR was obviously lower then calculated on the online calculators, my yoyo dieting had depressed my BMR, and those extra calories of 700 per day were not being burned off as hoped.
so I am currently on 1700-1800 and weight has stabilised however I'm 10lds heavier, so more to lose now :grumble: . Some people are lucky to jump right up there and eat TDEE or minus it, but just be aware of this weight stability phase that seem to be an important marker. Best of luck, hopefully we'll both fix our poor Metabolism and be able to eat and enjoy food again without starving ourselves 0
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