W1D1 how fast?

Calliope610
Calliope610 Posts: 3,782 Member
I started C25K again, W1D1, and I can't make it past 3 intervals. I tried two weeks ago and that's as far as I made it, so I started walking on a treadmill. I have worked up to 30 mins @ about 3.8 mph, walking over 2 miles in that time. I figured that I needed to work on stamina and endurance before trying C25K again.

Well, I failed at it once again. Maybe I am trying the run part to fast (4.5 mph). To all you beginning C25Ker's, when on a treadmill, what is your "brisk walk" speed and what is your running speed?

BTW, I am a 50yo, 220lb woman. Also, does your stride get longer as you get better at running? My stride (I'm 5'4") seems so short compared to some of the other runners who use the treadmill.

Thanks, Callie

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  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    When I started Week One I did 3.5 for the walk and 4.5 for the run. But you should go as slow as you need to. On the C25K website, it actually says that if you can run slower then you are going too fast.
  • bttrthanevr
    bttrthanevr Posts: 615 Member
    I am similar weight and I remember those first days well. Don't give up and don't worry about repeating days. I'm on week 6 of the program now and I can run for 8-10 mins before I have to slow to a walk. Actually I am trying to go even slower to make the longer distances. Don't worry about speed. Running uses different muscles and engages the body in different way than walking. Your body needs time to adjust to that. Even if your runs are as slow as or maybe slower than your walk it's OK. A short stride length is OK too, actually its better to keep your feet more underneath you. I know that you can do this! Keep with it and you will amaze yourself!
  • fitplease
    fitplease Posts: 647 Member
    Don't worry about speed yet. Go slow. Speed will build naturally over time.

    Do you have a heart rate monitor? It has been suggested to work out at 65% of your max heart rate if you are new to exercise. (You also burn more fat at a lower heart rate than if, say, you tried to work out at 80% max, where you would probably burn carbs.)
  • I repeat days so I can pick up speed.
  • AmazonRDH
    AmazonRDH Posts: 203 Member
    I was around 4mph or even a little less, you can do it!
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I ran and walked at about 4 mph at the beginning. I concentrated on keeping my running speed the same as my walking speed. Just let your body have time to adjust to running again.
  • Calliope610
    Calliope610 Posts: 3,782 Member
    I tried again tonight and was able to complete all of W1D1. I walked at 3.0mph and jogged at 3.5-3.6mph.

    I'm so glad I didn't get frustrated and give up yesterday. But then, I'm not a quitter. Just had to re-evaluate my plan of action.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Looking back at my times, I didn't break 4.0 for a few weeks. Also, about stride length: there are a lot of points of view on this. But, in general, shorter is better. It helps you land with your foot under your body. Much more efficient and less risk of injury.

    Good job with completing Day One. That was my hardest day.
  • AJL_Daddy
    AJL_Daddy Posts: 525 Member
    Just completed W1D1 (again). Treadmill. 2.5 warmup/cooldown, 3.5 walk, 4.5 run.

    Almost 35 YO Male. Current Weight 295-ish pounds.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Way to go, AJL Daddy!
  • Resa52
    Resa52 Posts: 182 Member
    The first time I tried C25k, I spent a long time on the Cool Runnings official C25k boards. Everything I read said that if you can't complete the run, you're running too fast.

    Because of that, I walked at 3.4 and ran at about 3.9. I had to quit in Week 4 due to a back injury.

    This time around, I'm walking at 3.6 and running at 4.8, but I will probably slow down as I get further into the program. (Currently W2D2)
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Great job for starting up again! That shows some real commitment.
  • Mandy_SD
    Mandy_SD Posts: 29 Member
    Don't feel bad! This is my 3rd attempt at Couch to 5k. The first time I did it everyday and ended up with an injury due to overuse. The second time I just lost motivation. This time I have signed up for my very first 5k in June so that should keep me motivated.

    My walking speed is usually 3 or 3.5 and my running is 4.5. I'm also 5'4 and my distance is around 1.90 miles.
  • forestplay
    forestplay Posts: 63 Member
    A better question: "How slow?" The answer: very slow.

    C25K is NOT a program to make you a speedy runner. It's a program to help you gain fitness so that you can sustain an elevated HR for more than a few seconds.

    I'm on week 7. My last run and my next are 20 minutes continuous. I know I am running a slower pace than when I started. My HR now is lower during the run. I feel so much better when I'm done than I did at the start of the program.

    It's really hard to not think about running for speed. I am running in my first 5K in a couple of weeks, just as I finish my C25K program. As I run longer duration training each week, I realize that my desire to run it in less than 30 minutes is unlikely. But, what will happen is I will run for 35 minutes or so -continuously-. That's a huge accomplishment since at the start, just 7 weeks ago, I felt like my chest was going to explode after running just 3 minutes.

    Stick with it and go slow, tortoise.

    -Bob
  • TrishaRN_74
    TrishaRN_74 Posts: 102 Member
    I'm now on my 4th attempt at the C25K program, and today was the FIRST time I made it to W2D1...and I made it THROUGH it! It was tough, but I did it. My first run is usually a bit faster (5 mph or so), but as I get further into the workout, I know I am slowing down. I'm not worrying about my speed so much as I am just making it the full running time. Hang in there, and if you struggle with getting through a particular day, just repeat it. And don't think you have to do the running every day. I usually shoot for every other day, then on my off days, I just walk. Good luck with your journey and feel free to add me if you want some added motivation! :tongue:
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    That is awesome news! Good for you.

    You might want to start slower with your first run too. As one person put it, your goal for your first 5k is to "finish upright," not go for any particular time. Starting with a slow, consistent pace will help you get there.

    You're actually "supposed" to do the program about three days a week, so you're doing it right.
  • kristafb
    kristafb Posts: 770 Member
    I love knowing I'm not alone! I wondered if I was going fast enough as well but I walk around 3-3.5 and my run is around 4.5 but I don't push to be faster right now (w1d3). I just really want to complete the program without my chest exploding like Bobs :)
  • Julie_Donahue
    Julie_Donahue Posts: 394 Member
    I started C25K at around 280 pounds. At first, I was running at about 3 MPH. Now (just finished week 7), I am up to 3.5 consistently, although I start at 4.0 (and try to make it through 1 song before I drop down!!)
  • jackilync
    jackilync Posts: 30 Member
    Today was the first time I got through Day 1. It was my third try. I am only 23 but I am 264lbs and I thought I was going to die. I walked 2.7-3.5 depending on how crazy my heart was being and "ran" at 4-4.5. I am definitely not very fast but I got through it and that makes me happy. Good luck! You can do it!
  • bharr228
    bharr228 Posts: 2
    Hey, everyone. I'm 33y.o., 5'11", 160. Recently stopped smoking and have been walking/jogging off and on for months now, so I figured I's try this out. I started this workout and my shins were killing me and assumed it was my Reebok Reflex (too tight and definitely worn out) . I got a pair of Asics gel-lyte 33 and decided to try again. Now, the problem seems to have shifted to my calves and I can't even "go" on the treadmill for as long as I could. After only about 15 minutes into the first workout, my calves couldn't get any tighter. My legs always seem to be tight and I definitely try stretching and have been using a foam roller to no avail. I am beginning to think I'm just not cut out for this. I'm starting to get very frustrated. I am walking at a speed of 3. 3.5 is a brisk walk for me...I started out running at 5.5-6, but bumped that down to a 4 to see if that would help. So, even with 3 walk and 4 jog, I can't do it because everytime I try it seems like I'm going to get a Charleyhorse (sp.? - hahaha). I think what is most frustrating is that I don't seem to be getting winded at all and smoking for 15 years, I figured that's where my problem would be...I feel like I could go further and faster if my calves would cooperate. I'm thinking it may be the shoes, but like I said my old ones seemed to be causing shin splints. I would like to be professionally fitted at a running store, but since I live in BFE (middle of nowhere), the closest running store is 2 hours away. Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  • ruwise
    ruwise Posts: 265 Member
    I'm 36 and weigh 215lb's and 5 foot 4 and my average pace so far (only on week 2 day 2 is 9.30 per km. I am more than happy with that as I have some friends who are doing it. They have tried to go faster and have ended up with injuries. I figure if I can get through the programme at a slow pace once I have the stamina to do the distance and have lost more weight I will naturally get faster. I'm doing it outside on the road though and obviously the UK has to be having its first heatwave in many years so it is hard work at the moment!! I'm just chuffed I'm sticking with it.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I'm 36 and weigh 215lb's and 5 foot 4 and my average pace so far (only on week 2 day 2 is 9.30 per km. I am more than happy with that as I have some friends who are doing it. They have tried to go faster and have ended up with injuries. I figure if I can get through the programme at a slow pace once I have the stamina to do the distance and have lost more weight I will naturally get faster. I'm doing it outside on the road though and obviously the UK has to be having its first heatwave in many years so it is hard work at the moment!! I'm just chuffed I'm sticking with it.

    You should be happy with yourself!

    If you just get out and do it three days a week, you WILL finish, you WILL be able to run for 30 minutes straight and you WILL get faster. All you need to do is run when the nice lady say run, walk when she says walk and go as slow as you can without stopping.
  • ASPhantom
    ASPhantom Posts: 637 Member
    Short stride is more safe. Prevents injury too.

    You can do it and don't worry about speed.
  • hdtracy
    hdtracy Posts: 49 Member
    My story sounds a lot like yours - 210ish, 5'3"ish, and NOT a runner. I tried C25K about 2 months ago and almost died after the first 10 minutes, and was really sore the following few days. This was when I was doing a walk at about a 3.0 and a run at about a 4.5. It was ridiculous.

    We got a treadmill, and I worked up a walking base. I was doing about a 3.1 or 3.2 walk for 30-40 minutes every day. And wanted to give C25K another try. When I looked up this very question, over and over I read people not only saying going as slow as you want, but literally as slow as you CAN. It's about building endurance, not speed. I jumped back in walking at 2.9 and running/jogging at a 3.4 and I've actually been able to make some progress. I've made it through the first two runs without too much trouble, and I'm actually looking forward to my next.

    The question if you're just into running, and trying a program like this, is not how slow SHOULD you run - it's how slow CAN you run? Figure that out, then start there.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    My story sounds a lot like yours - 210ish, 5'3"ish, and NOT a runner. I tried C25K about 2 months ago and almost died after the first 10 minutes, and was really sore the following few days. This was when I was doing a walk at about a 3.0 and a run at about a 4.5. It was ridiculous.

    We got a treadmill, and I worked up a walking base. I was doing about a 3.1 or 3.2 walk for 30-40 minutes every day. And wanted to give C25K another try. When I looked up this very question, over and over I read people not only saying going as slow as you want, but literally as slow as you CAN. It's about building endurance, not speed. I jumped back in walking at 2.9 and running/jogging at a 3.4 and I've actually been able to make some progress. I've made it through the first two runs without too much trouble, and I'm actually looking forward to my next.

    The question if you're just into running, and trying a program like this, is not how slow SHOULD you run - it's how slow CAN you run? Figure that out, then start there.

    ^^^Brilliant!!!
  • fjrandol
    fjrandol Posts: 437 Member
    When I started out with C25K, my fast walk and slow run speeds were almost the same (3.7 and 4.0mph, respectively) I think you definitely just need to slow it down. :smile: