Why do I put myself through it?

liz827
liz827 Posts: 193 Member
Hi! I'm not new the board, but I'm new to posting here.

I was on Match, met a few guys, one never called back & some were just plain weird. Match ended, joined EH... didn't meet anyone, but did talk to a couple. One we texted every day for a while, he bailed on the first meeting with an excuse of work, which I bought because I've gotten stuck late. Second one, see ya and all communication stopped :grumble: EH ended so I decided to give Match a try again. When I paid and logged in, I had 2 e-mails (same person) and it was from someone missing some teeth and much older then me. Since signing up again, I've had around 50 views so far and not one e-mail, wink or anything :( I've e-mailed or winked guys just to never get a response back. I think I'm a decent looking person, I'm no supermodel but I'm not butt ugly either, I'm nice, smart and I have good personality.

I save pictures to show friends and they ask the same question as I do... WHY!? Why are you still single again? Why do you keep getting these guys and not someone "normal"? I'm destined to be with someone old, missing teeth and apparently either a full blown out biker dude (vest, earrings, and beard down to his chest) or a blown out country boy with a piece of straw in his mouth and likes to go hunting every day. No where in my profile does it say I'm a country girl or love hunting.

Not really good for the self esteem either.... It's got to be that I'm a single parent, too heavy or just not pretty enough. Why did I sign up again? :sad: I'll stick it out the next 6 months because I've already paid for it, but it's just not fair. You know, I don't remember trying to meet someone being so difficult when I was younger! It just seems to get harder and harder.

/vent.
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  • MissingMinnesota
    MissingMinnesota Posts: 7,486 Member
    Hi! I'm not new the board, but I'm new to posting here.

    I was on Match, met a few guys, one never called back & some were just plain weird. Match ended, joined EH... didn't meet anyone, but did talk to a couple. One we texted every day for a while, he bailed on the first meeting with an excuse of work, which I bought because I've gotten stuck late. Second one, see ya and all communication stopped :grumble: EH ended so I decided to give Match a try again. When I paid and logged in, I had 2 e-mails (same person) and it was from someone missing some teeth and much older then me. Since signing up again, I've had around 50 views so far and not one e-mail, wink or anything :( I've e-mailed or winked guys just to never get a response back. I think I'm a decent looking person, I'm no supermodel but I'm not butt ugly either, I'm nice, smart and I have good personality.

    I save pictures to show friends and they ask the same question as I do... WHY!? Why are you still single again? Why do you keep getting these guys and not someone "normal"? I'm destined to be with someone old, missing teeth and apparently either a full blown out biker dude (vest, earrings, and beard down to his chest) or a blown out country boy with a piece of straw in his mouth and likes to go hunting every day. No where in my profile does it say I'm a country girl or love hunting.

    Not really good for the self esteem either.... It's got to be that I'm a single parent, too heavy or just not pretty enough. Why did I sign up again? :sad: I'll stick it out the next 6 months because I've already paid for it, but it's just not fair. You know, I don't remember trying to meet someone being so difficult when I was younger! It just seems to get harder and harder.

    /vent.

    Seeing I live in the same town as you. I actually had better matches with POF than match and I had almost no matches on EH that weren't 2 hours away. Really EH couldn't find one guy in Charlotte much less Rock Hill. I spend 90% of my time in Charlotte since that is where I work and all my friends live so I would prefer to date someone there than in Rock Hill.
  • Penny_Lane_
    Penny_Lane_ Posts: 163
    Have you tried OKCupid?
    I'm on OKCupid and EH and having a great response on both.
    Maybe try revamping your profile?

    Do you want to post the contents of your profile "About Me" section in specific? Maybe we can help (not insinuating anything is wrong with it but maybe a stranger's perspective might help shine some light on things?)
  • liz827
    liz827 Posts: 193 Member
    I got the same type of guys on POF but I haven't had an account on there for over a year... maybe I should check it out again.

    It's just frustrating!
  • liz827
    liz827 Posts: 193 Member
    Have you tried OKCupid?
    I'm on OKCupid and EH and having a great response on both.
    Maybe try revamping your profile?

    Do you want to post the contents of your profile "About Me" section in specific? Maybe we can help (not insinuating anything is wrong with it but maybe a stranger's perspective might help shine some light on things?)

    Haven't tried OKCupid, don't really know much about it!

    I can do that, just not until later when I get home, rather not pull it up here at work, lol
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
    When I was on match, I had the same problem. Hardly any winks and only a couple emails. I'm not psycho, I swear!
  • Hawkeye_74
    Hawkeye_74 Posts: 205 Member
    I have found that dating in your 30's really sucks. I have given up on all internet dating/match sites intirely. Had the same results as you. I found it was the single parent issue that turned away a lot of the ladies I was communicating with. I am very attractive, a gentleman, honest and a hard worker with solid career, but that just didn't seem to be enough. I have found some great friends here on MFP that I regularly communicate with. Distance now being with that. Really hope you have some better luck in these next six months. I'll be right there with you.
  • MelodyinGa
    MelodyinGa Posts: 202 Member
    Not really good for the self esteem either.... It's got to be that I'm a single parent, too heavy or just not pretty enough. Why did I sign up again? :sad: I'll stick it out the next 6 months because I've already paid for it, but it's just not fair. You know, I don't remember trying to meet someone being so difficult when I was younger! It just seems to get harder and harder.

    /vent.

    You are beautiful! It's not you! I have the same problem. I was on match and had a few dates, but nothing materalized. I joined POF about a month go, decided not to post pics because I was tired of feeling like I was part of a meat market. Needless to say, I started communication with a guy who never asked for a pic until we started texting. We spent this weekend together...it's been amazing. Idk what it will lead to...but I'm tired of worrying. And like Emptball said, it is so much harder to date in your 30's. But only because we now realize what we want out of life and not willing to settle.
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    Try looking at your profile as well as your pictures...

    Make sure you've got flattering pics up, face pics as well as full length. Some that show a little personality as well. :)

    Keep your profile as brief as possible while still giving a glimpse of yourself. Also, keep the tone positive and try to make your profile stick out by focusing on some of your unique qualities or hobbies. Stay away from cliches and the same old stories. If you have kids and want to mention them outside of the standard "do you have kids" question, mention them only briefly. That's a conversation to be had when you're actually talking and comfortable together. Anyway....just some thoughts.
  • Moe4572
    Moe4572 Posts: 1,428 Member
    I think the dating sites all go through a feast or famine type of cycle.......you will get a bunch of messages all at once and then none for awhile......though this was never true for me on Match.....never got anywhere with that site.

    Anyway, good luck and maybe try another site?
  • MissingMinnesota
    MissingMinnesota Posts: 7,486 Member
    Have you tried meetup.com at all? The Charlotte area has a lot of them for many different things. You don't have to go to the singles things but find something you enjoy and look it up.
  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    I'll admit I usually had profiles up at the same time on a few different sites. I found it was better to diversify if you're not getting very many messages because it multiplies your chances of meeting people, and some people just have better luck on different sites. It's good that there are a couple decent free ones out there.

    It was pretty frustrating for a while, but I eventually put my mind to it and started experimenting with different profiles to see what worked best. For me it turned out to be more of a minimalistic approach, while still being a little clever and funny. You can do the same with pictures too. Every couple weeks change your main picture or add some new ones to see if you get any more responses.

    I also only emailed people that were active within a couple of days. I figured if they hadn't checked their email in 2 weeks they weren't very likely to respond to me. Little things like that will save time and emotional distress. Obviously only try to email people that you have a few things in common with and don't appear to be way out of your league. If not, don't be too surprised when they don't write you back, or be pleasantly surprised when they do.

    It took a while, but eventually I stopped caring as much about rejection and it turned out to be a lot of fun. I think my emails stopped sounding desperate and an began sounding more relaxed. It really does take practice.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Careful of how you sound in your profile. If you come across as very negative a lot of people will gravitate away from that. A lot of online dating has little do to with appearance since everyone portrays themselves as better looking than they are and get an inflated sense of where on the "ladder" they are. Many people get preoccupied with appearances. Online dating can be a fun convenient tool but make sure to try out real life things too. After work stop as a casual bar for a happy hour drink and talk to someone. Just one drink on your way home or something. On the weekend go to a park for a run and chat with someone when you stop to tie your shoe. Stuff like that. Making friends and increasing your social circle with increase your chances for finding a real match.
  • UrbanLotus
    UrbanLotus Posts: 1,163 Member
    I have no idea whais wrong with Match, but my friends & I have all had similar experiences of not getting any interest. I signed up 5 days ago and have not gotten one message from anyone I would be remotely interested in. I've written several messages, winked at maybe 20 guys - no response. AND there are 2 guys who said they were interested in me (from the daily matches I guess?) - I wrote to them, even they didn't respond!!! Given that I'm very new there, this should be the time when you get tons of interest!

    Funny thing is, my profile is exactly the same as the one I had on OKC & POF (I just deactivated those last week), same pics and everything. I regularly got several messages a day on those sites, even though I had been on for months. And many were normal guys. I don't get it??
  • nolachick
    nolachick Posts: 3,278 Member

    It was pretty frustrating for a while, but I eventually put my mind to it and started experimenting with different profiles to see what worked best. For me it turned out to be more of a minimalistic approach, while still being a little clever and funny. You can do the same with pictures too. Every couple weeks change your main picture or add some new ones to see if you get any more responses.

    this. do the minimalistic approach. keep your profile short sweet and to the point. be fun and upbeat, not nagging or desperate. (eg. i'm tired of men, why doesn't anyone want me, this is my 10th time on match,lol u get the idea).

    minimum pics. only need 3 -5 max. try do show different sides of yourself eg. 1 pic casual, 1 pic done up, 1 group pic where ur having fun with your friends, etc.

    also, since match has the option of "see who's viewed me", I never sent emails or winks, because if a guy saw that I viewed their profile more than once they would get the hint if they were interested and contacted me.

    and if a guy winked at me and I was interested I would wink back to give him to go ahead to email me. but I would not initiate the email.


    I know a lot of people are going to criticize this for playing hard to get, but unfortunately it kind of is a game at first.

    Check out this book:

    The Rules for Online Dating: Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right in Cyberspace by Ellen Fein and Sherrie Schneider

    They have pretty good advice.
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member

    also, since match has the option of "see who's viewed me", I never sent emails or winks, because if a guy saw that I viewed their profile more than once they would get the hint if they were interested and contacted me.

    and if a guy winked at me and I was interested I would wink back to give him to go ahead to email me. but I would not initiate the email.

    See, I was told a little something different by some guys.... I had viewed their profiles a couple times in hopes that they would email (they didn't). When I added them as a favorite, they did. When we were out on our first dates, they said that they assumed I wasn't interested if I looked and kept on going. But, 99% of the time when I added a man as a favorite, I'd receive a nice email. Not one of the "form" emails they send out to 100 women at once, but an actual email talking about things that caught their eye because they already knew I was interested.
  • AnnaPixie
    AnnaPixie Posts: 7,439 Member
    It's got to be that I'm a single parent, too heavy or just not pretty enough.

    Well, you're definitely pretty enough!! :flowerforyou:

    I think some guys will date single mothers, and others won't. We've had a few forum discussions about it. Same goes for weight. Very subjective and you can't please all the people all the time.

    But yeah, look at your profile content and your pics. Get a friend to critique it. Or post it here.

    You also have to be active on the site to show up first in searches. And definitely try the free sites too :flowerforyou:

    But mostly, do NOT get down on yourself because online dating sucks!! Seriously!!
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    When I paid and logged in, I had 2 e-mails (same person) and it was from someone missing some teeth and much older then me.
    I think I'm a decent looking person, I'm no supermodel but I'm not butt ugly either, I'm nice, smart and I have good personality.

    I thought this was a golden nugget. What if he had a good personality?
  • kimad
    kimad Posts: 3,010 Member
    I think online dating is hard.. I don't think anyone thing makes you get more response than others, or any one site.

    I am in Canada, and I had no response on Match from decent men... in 3 months I got 1 date and only gross men emailing me. I was on POF and only had one date, and the response was mainly sexual. I have been on EH for 6 months, have went on MULTIPLE dates, but noone seems to pan out.

    So yay EH gives me more dates, but nothing quality there yet.

    I was on heavy, I was on average, I have close ups, full body shots, activity shots. I show humor, I say more, I say less.. nothing changes. I think online dating is what it is... Moe says it well - feast or famine.

    Gotta just go in with an open mind, try to have fun, and ride it out. Trust me, I get the frustration though - poor moonshadows got an earful tonight similiar to what you have said here yourself. It's frustrating becuase we know we are worth it.

    I think I am about to lean more to meetup.com to meet people doing activities I enjoy, etc. Give this online dating thing a rest for awhile. I don't know.

    So w hile I don't know the answers, I symphatize (sp?) with you!
  • 2stepz
    2stepz Posts: 814 Member
    Re: online dating... I wish they wouldn't show me just how many people have viewed my profile. I'd rather not know that 'x' guys visited my profile and none even said hello.
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    Re: online dating... I wish they wouldn't show me just how many people have viewed my profile. I'd rather not know that 'x' guys visited my profile and none even said hello.

    If you see a guy has viewed, but not emailed, do you send a message? If not, why not try? I don't initiate the emails often, but if there's someone I really think I'd have a good connection with, why not reach out and say something?

    I do like to see who's viewed me. It helps to see if my profile is attracting the men I'm looking for. If not, I'll change the profile picture, tweak my profile and move on. Don't dwell on it. :)
  • MissingMinnesota
    MissingMinnesota Posts: 7,486 Member
    When I paid and logged in, I had 2 e-mails (same person) and it was from someone missing some teeth and much older then me.
    I think I'm a decent looking person, I'm no supermodel but I'm not butt ugly either, I'm nice, smart and I have good personality.

    I thought this was a golden nugget. What if he had a good personality?

    Missing teeth = bad hygine and no mater how good a personality a guy has he will never make up for that.
  • christine24t
    christine24t Posts: 6,063 Member
    Re: online dating... I wish they wouldn't show me just how many people have viewed my profile. I'd rather not know that 'x' guys visited my profile and none even said hello.

    If you see a guy has viewed, but not emailed, do you send a message? If not, why not try? I don't initiate the emails often, but if there's someone I really think I'd have a good connection with, why not reach out and say something?

    I do like to see who's viewed me. It helps to see if my profile is attracting the men I'm looking for. If not, I'll change the profile picture, tweak my profile and move on. Don't dwell on it. :)

    If you use the feature that picks your best matches, it might count as a page view when in fact the guy just came across you in his matches to say "yes" or "no" and chose no.
  • JanieJack
    JanieJack Posts: 3,831 Member
    I had poor results from eH. The ONE guy in all of Shreveport it gave me was a guy who was interested in my friend (and also on her matches but we already knew each other from church). When I expanded my search to try and get SOME interest I got some very weird guys from either end of the country- none of which had any inclination to actually meet.

    I had very good response on Match.com. Like others have said, my profile was short and sweet. If you want, you can post yours or PM it to me and we'll edit. We've done that for a couple folks here in the forum.
  • 2stepz
    2stepz Posts: 814 Member
    Re: online dating... I wish they wouldn't show me just how many people have viewed my profile. I'd rather not know that 'x' guys visited my profile and none even said hello.

    If you see a guy has viewed, but not emailed, do you send a message? If not, why not try? I don't initiate the emails often, but if there's someone I really think I'd have a good connection with, why not reach out and say something?

    I do like to see who's viewed me. It helps to see if my profile is attracting the men I'm looking for. If not, I'll change the profile picture, tweak my profile and move on. Don't dwell on it. :)

    About half the time I'll say something... and only a fraction of those respond. I'm not afraid of making a 'first' move, but I am tired of being the only one making moves.
  • JanieJack
    JanieJack Posts: 3,831 Member
    I do like to see who's viewed me. It helps to see if my profile is attracting the men I'm looking for. If not, I'll change the profile picture, tweak my profile and move on. Don't dwell on it. :)

    About half the time I'll say something... and only a fraction of those respond. I'm not afraid of making a 'first' move, but I am tired of being the only one making moves.

    I've never approached a guy online and had it turn into a date. Never. In the initial days, I did reach out to some and I did the "look at his profile and hope he'll look at mine" thing.

    The best trick for me was, like Run said, tweak my profile until it started getting attention. That meant better pictures and shortening the text. The 2 top text changes were taking out "I want to get my PhD in 5 years" and also, thanks to a guy I used to date, I took out the "I'm looking for marriage" and replaced it with "I'm not in a rush, let's just see what develops." Stuff like that scares away the "good guys."
  • JanieJack
    JanieJack Posts: 3,831 Member
    Before anyone lectures that you "have to be yourself," remember you also have to play the game.

    If you put on there you wanna get married, most (not all but most) guys will assume you are gonna rush them into marriage whether or not you are compatible and no one really wants that over their head right now. No guy wants to be the "random man you check the marriage block" with, just like no woman wants to be the random woman he gets off with that night. A guy who is looking for marriage often won't even write "marriage" in his profile. He'll write that he's looking for a relationship or put he's "not in a rush." Those are relationship codewords.

    And with the PhD thing, if you're totally academic and that's what you are looking for, fine (but a lot of those guys aren't necessarily looking for an academic girl either). But "get my PhD" instantly communicates "she's no fun" so you have to think about things like that. How is your good trait, the one you're proud of, coming across to these guys (or gals). Does your long page on why your cat is amazing communicate your passion for animals (a good thing) or does it tell him you are going to be too much for him to handle (not true but that’s what he sees) so he moves on to find a woman who will be less needy.

    Last example, one I made with my first profile: If you put on there “no sex before marriage” even guys who believe that won’t approach you (or, at least, they didn’t approach ME) because they figure you’re that aggressive up front without even getting to know them you’re already laying down the law. They don’t want that- they already have a mother and a boss. They’re looking for a girlfriend. I didn’t realize I was coming across that way. I was just trying to save him time if he wasn’t cool with waiting for sex. Hint hint: saying you won’t rush into anything is also codeword for no sex on the first date.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    I would like to add that all of Janie's advice is spot on - if that's the kind of relationship you are looking for.

    I follow almost none of that advice, but my desires and compatibility levels are completely different from hers. I think games and codewords are stressful, I prefer to be straight up and blunt and there are also guys that function with that mindset as well.

    Edit: Just to clarify, as it has been pointed out to me that I sometimes come across negatively, I say all this with full respect for Janie and I think she's an incredible lady who has found success following her own advice :) I just wanted to further elaborate that there are other methods with which to find a match if you don't want to do games and rules and whatnot.
  • poncho33
    poncho33 Posts: 1,511
    Before anyone lectures that you "have to be yourself," remember you also have to play the game.

    If you put on there you wanna get married, most (not all but most) guys will assume you are gonna rush them into marriage whether or not you are compatible and no one really wants that over their head right now. No guy wants to be the "random man you check the marriage block" with, just like no woman wants to be the random woman he gets off with that night. A guy who is looking for marriage often won't even write "marriage" in his profile. He'll write that he's looking for a relationship or put he's "not in a rush." Those are relationship codewords.

    And with the PhD thing, if you're totally academic and that's what you are looking for, fine (but a lot of those guys aren't necessarily looking for an academic girl either). But "get my PhD" instantly communicates "she's no fun" so you have to think about things like that. How is your good trait, the one you're proud of, coming across to these guys (or gals). Does your long page on why your cat is amazing communicate your passion for animals (a good thing) or does it tell him you are going to be too much for him to handle (not true but that’s what he sees) so he moves on to find a woman who will be less needy.

    Last example, one I made with my first profile: If you put on there “no sex before marriage” even guys who believe that won’t approach you (or, at least, they didn’t approach ME) because they figure you’re that aggressive up front without even getting to know them you’re already laying down the law. They don’t want that- they already have a mother and a boss. They’re looking for a girlfriend. I didn’t realize I was coming across that way. I was just trying to save him time if he wasn’t cool with waiting for sex. Hint hint: saying you won’t rush into anything is also codeword for no sex on the first date.

    I think this is all pretty good advice. I think you should always be yourself above all else but I don't see this advice as games. The profile is a snapshot of you, not your deepest darkest secrets or whatever, so leaving some stuff for later conversation is perfectly ok.
  • FitnessPalWorks
    FitnessPalWorks Posts: 1,128 Member
    I have found on sites like POF for instance, if you are female, the less you type the better. We women are chatty creatures by nature and truth be told, the men really just look at the pictures. Men are visual.

    I get more action on my POF page now that it's 6 sentences long than I ever did with my four witty and descriptive paragraphs about myself.....
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    Agreed, everyone has different styles in how to write, how to date and basically how to live.

    I won't "code" my profile, but I don't see what Janie wrote as code either. I may tone down some of the things. One day I'd like to get married again, but that's not a conversation for early in the dating stages, so I leave it out of my profile. I will leave out anything work or school related and try to let my personality come out. I don't want to blend in with the others. I'll put in a little joke sometimes, mention activities I enjoy, favorite local spots, etc. This gives him an idea of who I am, as well as opportunities for opening an email.

    I've had good results when I've emailed a man, good results when he's emailed. And, if not, oh well....it's dating. Nothing is ever guaranteed, but better to try than sit back and wait.