Texting and Driving
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I usually only text and drive if I'm drunk0
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Funny, you don't HAVE to look down. Actually if you are looking down when you text you are doing it wrong.
If you have the right phone and know what you are doing you can text without looking down at all. I do it all the time and have never had any issues. Its only the retards who have a full keyboard open holding it with both hands while they are trying to drive that get in trouble. My phone stays DOWN, no where near my field of view. I text with one hand holds the phone and the thumb on that hand taps the key pad that I have memorized.
It takes a while to do it this way but it is completely non-distracting. It's like tuning the radio which people do on a regular basis. I actually text this way while walking, biking, and skating around too. If you have to look at your phone you are doing it wrong.. Just like those women who have to look in the mirror to apply makeup because they don't know where their faces are presumably.
I would think it's at least somewhat distracting, at least reduced reaction time because your mind is elsewhere. We're finding out now that even hands-free use is distracting.
http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Study-Hands-Free-Texting-More-Dangerous-Than-Manual-Texting-204594911.html#.UZDdPbXqk1I
The above is absolute bull****... If it were true then people have been getting into accidents for years for using their turn signals Or looking in mirrors. If you cant talk and drive then you shouldn't be driving and you likely shouldn't be talking even while not driving.
Its ludicrous to even think that if someones hands leave the wheel they are unable to maintain control. Driving is a Highly complex task that humans have mastered and some chimps have achieved. Highly complex in that you have Multiple focal points and lines of thought. You cant think about driving straight when you are thinking about looking in your rear view mirror to see if someone is going to rear end you when slowing down quickly because traffic has slowed. If you cant manage this simple functions required of driving stop in to your local DMV and turn in your license.
Next thing you will say is ...You cant drive while listening to the radio. As soon as that happens Good bye Car culture those two things go together Like APPLES & PIE.0 -
im pretty good at drinking and driving. and im certainly more in control doing that than a solo parent in a car dealing with kids. we should ban solo parents from having kids in the car.
.... Sounds pretty ridiculous when you just change one word.
The reality is any activity that may impair you while driving is already illegal and covered under the careless and reckless statutes. This includes every example people have mentioned in order to justify that it is Ok for them to continue to text while driving. No matter how delusional you may be, if you are not paying 100% of your attention to driving you are taking unnecessary risks. Unfortunately, most people don't care until something permanent happens that they will regret the rest of their life.
thats why it should be illegal for a solo parent/adult to be in teh car with a child. at some point they will definitely be distracted.0 -
im pretty good at drinking and driving. and im certainly more in control doing that than a solo parent in a car dealing with kids. we should ban solo parents from having kids in the car.
.... Sounds pretty ridiculous when you just change one word.
The reality is any activity that may impair you while driving is already illegal and covered under the careless and reckless statutes. This includes every example people have mentioned in order to justify that it is Ok for them to continue to text while driving. No matter how delusional you may be, if you are not paying 100% of your attention to driving you are taking unnecessary risks. Unfortunately, most people don't care until something permanent happens that they will regret the rest of their life.
thats why it should be illegal for a solo parent/adult to be in teh car with a child. at some point they will definitely be distracted.
That is a silly argument.
It is not illegal for a person and their cell phone to be in the car. It is illegal for the person to text while driving.0 -
The above is absolute bull****... If it were true then people have been getting into accidents for years for using their turn signals Or looking in mirrors. If you cant talk and drive then you shouldn't be driving and you likely shouldn't be talking even while not driving.
Its ludicrous to even think that if someones hands leave the wheel they are unable to maintain control. Driving is a Highly complex task that humans have mastered and some chimps have achieved. Highly complex in that you have Multiple focal points and lines of thought. You cant think about driving straight when you are thinking about looking in your rear view mirror to see if someone is going to rear end you when slowing down quickly because traffic has slowed. If you cant manage this simple functions required of driving stop in to your local DMV and turn in your license.
Next thing you will say is ...You cant drive while listening to the radio. As soon as that happens Good bye Car culture those two things go together Like APPLES & PIE.
Wow, you went off on a bunch of unconvincing tangents there. I'll just link to the study that showed that reactions time were, in fact, reduced when study participants were both manually texting and using voice texting. The evidence is right there. Accept it or don't.
Here's the abstract:
"Text messaging is no longer limited to manual-entry. There are several mobile
applications that aim to assist the driver in sending and receiving text messages by incorporating
a voice-to-text component. To date, there has been no published research that evaluates the
impact of voice-to-text mobile applications on driver behavior and safety. To address this issue,
43 participants drove an instrumented vehicle on a closed course for a baseline as well as three
texting conditions: manual-entry, using Siri, and using Vlingo. Results indicate that driver
reaction times were nearly two times slower than the baseline condition, no matter which texting
method was used. Eye gazes to the forward roadway also significantly decreased compared to
baseline, no matter which texting method was used. Additionally, it took drivers longer to
complete the same texting task using the voice-to-text applications than it did when texting
manually, though Siri produced the fewest errors. Self-assessment feedback revealed that
participants felt less safe using any of the three texting methods compared to the baseline, but
felt safer using either voice-to-text application than when manually texting. These results have
immediate implications for improving our understanding of the dangers of texting while driving
and the potential safety improvements of using voice-to-text options."
http://tti.tamu.edu/group/cts/files/2013/04/voice-to-text-Yager-Apr23.pdf0 -
im pretty good at drinking and driving. and im certainly more in control doing that than a solo parent in a car dealing with kids. we should ban solo parents from having kids in the car.
.... Sounds pretty ridiculous when you just change one word.
The reality is any activity that may impair you while driving is already illegal and covered under the careless and reckless statutes. This includes every example people have mentioned in order to justify that it is Ok for them to continue to text while driving. No matter how delusional you may be, if you are not paying 100% of your attention to driving you are taking unnecessary risks. Unfortunately, most people don't care until something permanent happens that they will regret the rest of their life.
Do careless and reckless driving just apply after something bad happens? Probably differs by area. IIRC, here in MD they just changed the texting law again. When they originally made it illegal, they couldn't pull you over for it. They could cite you for it if they pulled you over for something else too. Now they can pull you over for it.
I have seen people get careless driving tickets in addition to speeding tickets. Reckless is generally given after an accident. Someone in law enforcement could probably give more details.0 -
im pretty good at drinking and driving. and im certainly more in control doing that than a solo parent in a car dealing with kids. we should ban solo parents from having kids in the car.
.... Sounds pretty ridiculous when you just change one word.
The reality is any activity that may impair you while driving is already illegal and covered under the careless and reckless statutes. This includes every example people have mentioned in order to justify that it is Ok for them to continue to text while driving. No matter how delusional you may be, if you are not paying 100% of your attention to driving you are taking unnecessary risks. Unfortunately, most people don't care until something permanent happens that they will regret the rest of their life.
thats why it should be illegal for a solo parent/adult to be in teh car with a child. at some point they will definitely be distracted.
That is a silly argument.
It is not illegal for a person and their cell phone to be in the car. It is illegal for the person to text while driving.
its a lot easier to ignore a ringing cell phone than it is a child. there should always be a 2nd adult in the car to attend to their needs.
and just because you lack the skills to tweet and drive dont think everyone is the same.0 -
i cant wait until i get Google Glass it will make doing all of this while driving even easier!0
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i cant wait until i get Google Glass it will make doing all of this while driving even easier!
Contradiction! This implies it is not so easy for you to text while driving!0 -
im pretty good at drinking and driving. and im certainly more in control doing that than a solo parent in a car dealing with kids. we should ban solo parents from having kids in the car.
.... Sounds pretty ridiculous when you just change one word.
The reality is any activity that may impair you while driving is already illegal and covered under the careless and reckless statutes. This includes every example people have mentioned in order to justify that it is Ok for them to continue to text while driving. No matter how delusional you may be, if you are not paying 100% of your attention to driving you are taking unnecessary risks. Unfortunately, most people don't care until something permanent happens that they will regret the rest of their life.
thats why it should be illegal for a solo parent/adult to be in teh car with a child. at some point they will definitely be distracted.
That is a silly argument.
It is not illegal for a person and their cell phone to be in the car. It is illegal for the person to text while driving.
its a lot easier to ignore a ringing cell phone than it is a child. there should always be a 2nd adult in the car to attend to their needs.
and just because you lack the skills to tweet and drive dont think everyone is the same.
As an adult that has driven solo with children and a cell phone I can confirm that both can be ignored easily.0 -
its a lot easier to ignore a ringing cell phone than it is a child. there should always be a 2nd adult in the car to attend to their needs.
and just because you lack the skills to tweet and drive dont think everyone is the same.
So if some people are good at it, then everyone should be allowed to do it, even if it were conclusively shown that traffic accidents are rising because of texting? Maybe it can be part of your driving exam.0 -
and just because you lack the skills to drink and drive dont think everyone is the same.0
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And again, I ask that people look into the research on multi tasking. By the way, as a younger driver I distinctly remember insisting on radio off and kids quiet when I was looking for a location in heavy traffic in an unfamiliar area. I guess I shouldn't be driving, according to some of the posters?0
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i cant wait until i get Google Glass it will make doing all of this while driving even easier!
Contradiction! This implies it is not so easy for you to text while driving!
its quite easy but it would just be easier....and its not really the texting part that im looking forward to with Glass...its surfing the internet and having it on a HUD.0 -
As an adult that has driven solo with children and a cell phone I can confirm that both can be ignored easily.
thankfully you are able to handle it but most arent...ive seen countless solo parents swerve when dealing with children...for the safety of us all that should not be allowed.0 -
its a lot easier to ignore a ringing cell phone than it is a child. there should always be a 2nd adult in the car to attend to their needs.
and just because you lack the skills to tweet and drive dont think everyone is the same.
So if some people are good at it, then everyone should be allowed to do it, even if it were conclusively shown that traffic accidents are rising because of texting? Maybe it can be part of your driving exam.
that would be fine..those who pass get a Twitter symbol on their tag to let cops know.0 -
Well, it seems I must defer to much better drivers than myself. After 30 years of driving I find that anything that distracts me from the driving makes my driving worse. Even having a chat show on can affect the driving. I, therefore, must be one of those drivers that fits into the CDC statistics.
It's nice to meet drivers that are so much better than everyone else.0 -
Tell that to all the people I see driving while eating their favorite McDonald's, applying makeup, brushing hair, reading newspapers (yes I have seen this), programming GPS's, reading maps, singing, listening to music, and playing/talking/ disciplining kids in the back seat of their cars. People do a lot of things while driving and always have, so unless they make EVERYTHING but driving illegal they can go take a flying leap.
Every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot. Every day, a third of them (82 daily) died. and yet your government still allows guns. I'd say that's a bigger problem than texting wouldn't you?
Thankfully where I live we are still allowed to text while driving. Though most people who do it with any regularity (such as myself) limit our long texts to red lights0 -
Every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot. Every day, a third of them (82 daily) died. and yet your government still allows guns. I'd say that's a bigger problem than texting wouldn't you?Thankfully where I live we are still allowed to text while driving. Though most people who do it with any regularity (such as myself) limit our long texts to red lights0
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So, are you saying that because more people are killed by guns then those killed be distracted drivers should be ignored? Or is there some kind of limit to the numbers we should care about?
Maybe that's the problem. We need to work on one problem at a time! We can't multitask. Texting and driving is just more proof!0 -
You'd rather live in a country where one person's right to drive dangerously outweighs another person's right to life?
We live in a country where one person's right to choice of convenience outweighs another person's right to life. Oh, wait......wrong debate. Sorry.0 -
So, are you saying that because more people are killed by guns then those killed be distracted drivers should be ignored? Or is there some kind of limit to the numbers we should care about?
Most people are busy living their lives, dealing with their own ****e. People get pissed off at other people normally for one of 2 reasons.. They are jealous because they can not do whatever the other person is doing, OR they feel slighted that the other person is 'getting away' with something that offends their moral character.You'd rather live in a country where one person's right to drive dangerously outweighs another person's right to life?
I'd rather live in a country where I am prosecuted based on actually DOING something to harm someone else, not someones perceived notion that they THINK that what I choose to do is dangerous. If I kill myself while I'm texting that's my problemIt's nice to meet drivers that are so much better than everyone else.
So you have never met anyone in your life who was better than you at doing something?? really? Just because you have been doing something for years does not mean there is no one better at doing whatever it is than you.0 -
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I'd rather live in a country where I am prosecuted based on actually DOING something to harm someone else, not someones perceived notion that they THINK that what I choose to do is dangerous. If I kill myself while I'm texting that's my problem
thats what i was getting at with banning solo adults from driving with kids in the car. i can perceive that as potentially dangerous so then it shouldnt be allowed in the name of public safety. i mean if it saves just one life right?
do the same people whining about texting and driving also want to ban having a drink (coffee/soda) while you are driving? it means taking 1 hand off the wheel.0 -
So, are you saying that because more people are killed by guns then those killed be distracted drivers should be ignored? Or is there some kind of limit to the numbers we should care about?
Most people are busy living their lives, dealing with their own ****e. People get pissed off at other people normally for one of 2 reasons.. They are jealous because they can not do whatever the other person is doing, OR they feel slighted that the other person is 'getting away' with something that offends their moral character.You'd rather live in a country where one person's right to drive dangerously outweighs another person's right to life?
I'd rather live in a country where I am prosecuted based on actually DOING something to harm someone else, not someones perceived notion that they THINK that what I choose to do is dangerous. If I kill myself while I'm texting that's my problemIt's nice to meet drivers that are so much better than everyone else.
So you have never met anyone in your life who was better than you at doing something?? really? Just because you have been doing something for years does not mean there is no one better at doing whatever it is than you.
Can you promise that it will only be you who dies? It must be wonderful to have a car that, no matter how stupid you are, is capable of ignoring the fundamental laws of physics when there are other people in the area.
Is the car called K.I.T.T., perhaps?
Or are you just talking out of your backside to try and cover up your own idiocy?0 -
Tell that to all the people I see driving while eating their favorite McDonald's, applying makeup, brushing hair, reading newspapers (yes I have seen this), programming GPS's, reading maps, singing, listening to music, and playing/talking/ disciplining kids in the back seat of their cars. People do a lot of things while driving and always have, so unless they make EVERYTHING but driving illegal they can go take a flying leap.
Every day during 2007, about 266 Americans were shot. Every day, a third of them (82 daily) died. and yet your government still allows guns. I'd say that's a bigger problem than texting wouldn't you?
Thankfully where I live we are still allowed to text while driving. Though most people who do it with any regularity (such as myself) limit our long texts to red lights
"Thankfully"? You do know that 2/3 of gun related deaths in America are suicide, right? That means roughly 50 of those 82 people that died on a given day in 2007 killed themselves, not someone else. ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2013/01/22/who-knew-the-leading-cause-of-gun-death-is-suicide/ )
A person who's texting while driving is more likely to kill someone else. The death rate in 2007 from "distracted driving" was nearly 6,000. That's 16 per day ( http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/24/news/la-heb-distracted-driving-20100924 ). That number has since dropped to the previously mentioned 9 per day ( http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/distracted_driving/ ), probably due to the recent laws where texting while driving is a primary offense (ie - you can be pulled over for it) in many places.0 -
so everyone agrees we should ban having a coffee or soda while you drive right?0
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so everyone agrees we should ban having a coffee or soda while you drive right?
The coffee lobby is stronger then the text lobby so I think you are SOL.0 -
so everyone agrees we should ban having a coffee or soda while you drive right?
The coffee lobby is stronger then the text lobby so I think you are SOL.
maybe the ACLU can get involved with texting and call it a freedom of speech thing.0 -
As an adult that has driven solo with children and a cell phone I can confirm that both can be ignored easily.
Right! While the radio is also considered a distraction, I just turn the radio up while the kid is screaming until she quiets down... my husband on the other hand is HORRIBLE about being able to ignore her when she screams.0 -
Personally, I am weary of the whole "lets ban everything that is percieved as socially unacceptable"... there was a law in our state legislature that wanted to ban laws that banned something... seriously. Some people are better at multitasking in the car and some just are not.... my husband can text and drive, but he can't handle a screaming baby... I can handle a screaming baby but I cannot look at my phone and drive.0
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