Any tips for lifting with pain?

3foldchord
3foldchord Posts: 2,918 Member
I know I am not supposed to spam the same message everywhere, I hope it's OK to have this here and in my Stronglifts for Women group. You folks always have such good advice , so I thought you might have advice on this issue.

(Info: female, age 41, day #10 of Songlifts, barely at 'suggested starting weights')

This morning I noticed an odd achey tingly pain down my leg, After walking a bit, I recognized it; radiating from my hip was the return of sciatic nerve pain.

I had this a few months ago (in the other hip). And have been doing a few sciatica stretches before my lifting session. (3 of the 8 I know)

Maybe I should have been doing all 8 each time.

It's not HORRID yet. And today is Squats, OHP, Deadlift.

I'm thinking of trying to get the session done, going light if need be, with extra stretching before and after. I should probably ice afterwards, too. Maybe heat before?

Any specific tips on sciatic nerve pain with these lifts I am doing today? (I hate to skip today, it is actually away withOUT a migraine or headache! These days are rare)

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  • heidi5k
    heidi5k Posts: 181 Member
    I'm looking forward to an answer to this too...
    Had mild tennis elbow, started lifting a couple weeks ago, and OUCH!
    I am laying off the lifting for now, and hoping to let that heal up. Doing some other exercises to strengthen muscles around that area...
    Is this a good idea?
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    I got nothing on this at the moment. I'll ask the more intelligent mod.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I got nothing on this at the moment. I'll ask the more intelligent mod.

    :glasses:

    Oh, and tagging!
  • 3foldchord
    3foldchord Posts: 2,918 Member
    I did ONEbsquat at a light, warm-up weight and it was very clear I would not be doing more. I did my warmups and half my OHP. Warm ups felt fine, but the pain got worse after each set of 5 at my max weight (with was 5 less then I hoped). So 8 stopped and didn't even try my deadlifts.
  • FrnkLft
    FrnkLft Posts: 1,821 Member
    Yeah this is a question best left to someone with sports medicine experiance, though my common sense tells me that you should lay off of it for a while, and possibly use a tennis brace to provide some support in any case.

    Personal experiance? My shoulders get tweaked in a really weird way when I put down heavy dumbbells (release my grip). I continue to learn more about it, but at the onset I wasn't being so careful, and it just got more and more sore. I gave it a rest for a solid week just recently actually (zero exercise, maybe a little love making... lol) and that really helped. Now I just focus on not aggravating it.

    I wouldn't continue to aggravating it though, it won't get better in that case.
  • 3foldchord
    3foldchord Posts: 2,918 Member
    I did ONEbsquat at a light, warm-up weight and it was very clear I would not be doing more. I did my warmups and half my OHP. Warm ups felt fine, but the pain got worse after each set of 5 at my max weight (with was 5 less then I hoped). So 8 stopped and didn't even try my deadlifts.

    I have now in today. The last time I had this the I tensely was two weeks and the residual pain was at least two weeks. Maybe catching it the first day and doing stretches and working the joint (instead of laying in bed due to the pain) helped?

    And of there is no pain today, makes no sense to see a doctor this time.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Just checking in to see how you are doing now?
  • 3foldchord
    3foldchord Posts: 2,918 Member
    Just checking in to see how you are doing now?
    Thanks.

    Fine still. I had a lot of hip pain, that felt just like the last time I had the sciatic nerve pain, assumed it'd last 2-4 weeks again, but I got started on all the stretches right away, and did a light day with my weight lifting, and the pain was gone the next day .. Mostly.

    I am still doing the full set of sciatic nerve stretches before each workout and I can feel a bit of a twinge in my hips sometimes, but that,s it.
  • bumblebums
    bumblebums Posts: 2,181 Member
    I have experience with back pain... 21 years of experience, actually. (But I am not a doctor, and do not play one on TV or on the internet, so do take this with a grain of salt.)

    I would lay off barbell squats and deadlifts for the time being--if there is anything even slightly off about your form, you can damage yourself further, and you do not need that. Once you recover and have no pain, you can introduce them back slowly with the lightest weights, and increase weight slower than the standard progression recommends. And pay special attention to the lower back. You might be overextending or rounding and not realizing it.

    What you can do in the meantime to strengthen your back and legs: for legs, try one-legged presses. Yes, on a leg press machine. It is virtually impossible to round your back when you are doing a single-leg press, and you will gain leg strength. For back strength, definitely avoid anything that rounds the back, and even exercises that require you to bend at the hip should be approached with caution. I would stick to push-ups and planks, actually, as they strengthen your core muscles and require decent alignment.

    [edit: Do you have a Roman bench at your gym? You could try back extensions, and you can do them while holding an extra weight. But be careful--some people's backs love extensions, and some really hate them. With lower backs, there is no rule that works for everyone, hence it's hard to give advice.]
  • craigmandu
    craigmandu Posts: 976 Member
    I've had two lower back surgeries...so I'm all too familiar with the pain you are talking about.

    I would personally suggest laying off if you are getting "radiating" pain. And if you haven't, you may want to consult a physician...the same pain can be caused by a "slight" bulging disk that hasn't yet gotten to be a major factor in your life or a full blown herniation.

    Having had two lower back disectomies (L4/L5 and L5/S1), I can tell you that you probably don't want to cause additional damage, if this is what is happening.

    Good Luck and don't push it if you think you are!
  • 3foldchord
    3foldchord Posts: 2,918 Member
    the pain is never in my back. just my hip joint and I get a lot of relief from the sciatic nerve stretches. next time it flairs up I will call the dr to double check, but so far-so good with the additional sciatica stretches I have been doing.
  • craigmandu
    craigmandu Posts: 976 Member
    the pain is never in my back. just my hip joint and I get a lot of relief from the sciatic nerve stretches. next time it flairs up I will call the dr to double check, but so far-so good with the additional sciatica stretches I have been doing.

    That's how mine started...just a dull ache in my hip...it literally took years for it to progress...

    Some folks live with that their whole lives. Not trying to scare you or anything. Sounds like you a good stretching regimen to help alleviate, re-align. I used an inversion table for a while, when it started to get "worse"...and that did wonders for a little while..then they gave me some steroid shots and those were absolutely amazing in the beginning.

    Just pay attention to it, if it is simply nagging, may not be a big deal....I would bring it up to my doc the next time I was in to see him/her for anything regular, just to see if they would recommend or give a referral to get a more in depth "picture".
  • bumblebums
    bumblebums Posts: 2,181 Member
    With lower back injuries, the pain is often nowhere near the injury. It may even be on the other side from where the injury is. You can get "referred pain", or you might be shifting your weight away from the injured side and using your healthier side more, which makes the uninjured side hurt more.

    About stretching--I've had mixed results with stretching. One of the worst, howlingly awful back pain incidents I experienced was when I was at the height of my yoga practice coiling into pretzels. I get better results from focusing on alignment and strengthening and working on symmetry. It's very common for one leg to be longer than the other, and leg strength is also often uneven. Over the years, this translates into back pain. That's why I recommended single leg presses--they will help you diagnose uneven development really fast. They are also a low-risk exercise for the back, compared to full compound lifts and regular (double) leg presses. Improperly performed compound lifts and regular leg presses allow you to round the back and compress those lower vertebrae, allow for the sacrum to separate from the iliac crest, and all the other lovely things that cause back agony.
  • 3foldchord
    3foldchord Posts: 2,918 Member
    With lower back injuries, the pain is often nowhere near the injury. It may even be on the other side from where the injury is. You can get "referred pain" ...

    well, that's just rude of the pain. how inconvenient.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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