Cutting - when did you see results?

andrea_kohlman
andrea_kohlman Posts: 47 Member
Hi all,

I am 3 weeks into my cut and I got on the scale today because I was curious. Yikes!

I haven't been eating the best lately; but it isn't completely horrible. I have been working out more & doing 30DS and just am generally more active with the kids (pool is open!) When I got on the scale today, I am 3 pounds above what I was when I finished my reset (12 weeks, due to a long time of VLC dieting). I didn't work out yesterday, not TOM & didn't have more sodium than normal. Either way, the scale punched me in the face -- in a good way; it gave me a wake up call and I plan on getting my eating under control again...not as many treats

Those of you that have reset & have cut; how long was it until you noticed a difference?

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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    At the least, you should have immediate water weight loss which happens to everyone when they first restrict calories.

    Treats and such can be very difficult to judge sizes.
    Have you used a scale for minimum 2 weeks to see how sizes may not be what you thought they were?

    Not that you should be able to overcome a 300-700 calorie deficit (whatever yours is), unless you just got really sloppy on the food intake estimates.
  • andrea_kohlman
    andrea_kohlman Posts: 47 Member
    No, I haven't used a scale for two weeks (at least not consistently!) That is a good idea and I will try that and hope that it helps me finds something that I am missing.

    I haven't been completely sloppy; but I have been a lot more lax than before (which I have remedied today). And it isn't like I am getting McDonald's Big Macs every day...or at all. I just thought more would have happened by now and I shudder to think that for some reason this isn't going to work for me and I added 12 pounds over a 12 week reset. I went from 2450 calories to 2005; so it was a decent cut to start with.

    Any and all suggestions are very much welcomed!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    12 lbs over 12 weeks.

    Was that slow and steady amount for the whole gain?
    Or first week had bigger water weight gain and then the rest?
    Or big gain then slow and steady until last few weeks of no gain?

    First indicates eating above TDEE the whole time.
    Second indicates the same, but water weight first.
    Third indicates raising metabolism if last few had no gain.

    If 1 or 2, you can calculate how much over TDEE you were really eating, and get a better TDEE figure for whatever the workout and daily activity was during that time.

    Amount gained in last 28 days, from weigh-in to weigh-in.
    Amount eaten daily on average during that same 28 days.
    BMR for that weight during that time.

    With that info, can get real specific for you.
  • CanGirl40
    CanGirl40 Posts: 379 Member
    I am in a similar boat...I did a "reset" in March/April where I ate a little over TDEE. I was about 128lbs before the reset. On April 29th, I went on a "cut" but I haven't been able to lose the 4-5 pounds I gained during the "reset". It is very frustrating! I am now at 132 these last 8 weeks. Ugh!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I am in a similar boat...I did a "reset" in March/April where I ate a little over TDEE. I was about 128lbs before the reset. On April 29th, I went on a "cut" but I haven't been able to lose the 4-5 pounds I gained during the "reset". It is very frustrating! I am now at 132 these last 8 weeks. Ugh!

    Have you done the 2 week 250 calorie test?

    250 calories more daily, for 2 weeks, would cause 1 lb slow gain, that's all. If you are truly eating at TDEE. If lifting, great, it'll be used for gain there, but still a slow gain.

    If fast water weight, you were not really at TDEE yet with your estimate.
  • CanGirl40
    CanGirl40 Posts: 379 Member
    I am in a similar boat...I did a "reset" in March/April where I ate a little over TDEE. I was about 128lbs before the reset. On April 29th, I went on a "cut" but I haven't been able to lose the 4-5 pounds I gained during the "reset". It is very frustrating! I am now at 132 these last 8 weeks. Ugh!

    Have you done the 2 week 250 calorie test?

    250 calories more daily, for 2 weeks, would cause 1 lb slow gain, that's all. If you are truly eating at TDEE. If lifting, great, it'll be used for gain there, but still a slow gain.

    If fast water weight, you were not really at TDEE yet with your estimate.

    Heybales, you rock...I will try it...but I need to message you a couple of more questions. I don't want to hijack this thread:)
  • andrea_kohlman
    andrea_kohlman Posts: 47 Member
    Heybales-

    I went back over my diary for the last 28 days and figured out my average daily calories & workout minutes. I gained about 3 pounds in the last 28 days. I really tried to hit my macros each day; but rarely got all my protein in...although I am eating about twice as much as I used to.

    Average Daily Calories - 2,222
    Average Workout Min. - 59 (a few days of all day painting upped the average)

    When I put my initial information in to Scooby, this is what they gave me:

    BMR - 1642
    TDEE - 2258

    I changed from moderate to light exercise about halfway through because I cut back on my workouts, quite a bit, so my TDEE went down a little from what I wrote in my original post. Looking back through my diary, I checked the types of food I ate and for the most part (85% of the time) they were good choices and I made sure to write everything down, even the bad stuff for me. I have given up salad dressing & ketchup, pop, etc. Obviously, there is something I am missing...I hope you can help! Thanks in advance. :)
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    So 3 lbs gained x 3500 = 10500 / 28 days = 375 calories excess daily.

    Avg eaten daily 2222 (if this was a certain level of weighing, then don't change the method, as this is likely under-estimated, so don't get more accurate as you eat less, which means eating even less).

    2222 - 375 = 1847 better TDEE estimate.
    1845 - 15% = 1570 daily goal.

    Now, take your MFP Mifflin BMR, and 1845 / BMR = your multiplier for whatever your avg activity was during that time. No need for guess of which 5 levels you are.

    As weight drops, and BMR goes down, multiply by your number and get new TDEE for new weight - if activity stays pretty much the same as it was during that 28 days.
    Take deficit again, new eating goal.

    If activity changes decently, that last part is no longer valid of course.

    And it may be that if you went by bodyfat%, and Katch BMR based on that, your TDEE estimate would be right along those lines anyway. Just means your have less muscle mass than expected for avg gal your age, weight, height.
    Not good, but only only lifting will get you out of that right now.