Whole 30 starting tomorrow

AmIhealthyyet
AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
I am starting whole 30 tomorrow along with my husband and two college age kids who are home for the summer. We all hope to achieve something different. I can't wait to see if eliminating eggs, night shades, nuts helps me with the pain I have been experiencing in both my hands and feet. I even took before pictures of my hands! Has anyone else seen an improvement in inflammation from following Whole 30? So excited!

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  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    Oh, arrgh, I forgot about eggs. I've been avoiding nightshades and nuts and yes, it has made a huge difference in pain and inflammation in my joints, but I'm not pain free. Maybe it's the eggs?

    I know that nightshades are a problem because I made some paleo spaghetti sauce last Sunday -- it was beautiful and tasty and incredible -- and I was in agony Monday and Tuesday, knees especially, and hands and elbows somewhat. Still have nagging pain in my legs a week later, but oddly enough not much joint pain. More like my hamstrings are aching along their whole length. Don't know if that is diet-related or something else.

    Will have to drop eggs again and see how much difference it makes.

    I'm pretty much eating according to Whole30 guidelines (except the eggs, I guess) right now, from what I remember about reading it almost a month ago. I need to go back and refresh my memory.
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    Oh, arrgh, I forgot about eggs. I've been avoiding nightshades and nuts and yes, it has made a huge difference in pain and inflammation in my joints, but I'm not pain free. Maybe it's the eggs?


    It is great to know you have seen an improvement by eating this way. Eggs , cheese and tomatoes have been a staple in my daily diet. I am praying it works. I also 'crack' a lot now when I move, haha. All my joints seem to be doing it too. If I see an improvement I plan to continue to keep them out of my diet.
  • I am starting whole 30 tomorrow as well. Do you have any links to food lists? I cannot find much online, everything I find is to buy a program.
  • PitBullMom_Liz
    PitBullMom_Liz Posts: 339 Member
    I'm on day 24 of my Whole 30 and feel really great. Never really had major cravings, but it's gotten easier to turn down non-compliant food. I don't feel like I've lost weight, maybe a few pounds, but that's okay. I just feel GOOD.

    Here is good info - get the book the from the library but if you scroll down there are a ton of PDF's with info: http://whole9life.com/itstartswithfood/
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    I will look for more links! I originally just googled, Whole 30, great outline was on there explaining it! I have tried before and failed, I think in part because instead of feeling as if I was gaining back good health I felt I was losing something. I am ready to lose junk food in order to feel better!
  • karmahealer
    karmahealer Posts: 38 Member
    So I think I may have missed something with the eggs?? Are they not whole30..? I;m interested in the joint pain conection with them as well:flowerforyou: Please share more :)
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    So I think I may have missed something with the eggs?? Are they not whole30..? I;m interested in the joint pain conection with them as well:flowerforyou: Please share more :)

    Eggs are great for Whole 30, however after reading the book Practical Paleo which helps you break things down more by conditions I discovered that they don't recommend eggs, night shades, nuts for autoimmune conditions or issues of severe inflammation. A lot if not most joint pain is due to inflammation. I love the book but if you get it buy the hard copy, not kindle, it doesn't do it justice.
  • Paleo_wolf
    Paleo_wolf Posts: 28
    You can count me in as well! Feel free to add me :)
  • justaspoonfulofsugar
    justaspoonfulofsugar Posts: 587 Member
    here is the list you were looking fort.
    I did the challenge last summer for 45 days and saw great improvements in my health overall
    http://whole9life.com/2012/08/the-whole30-program/
  • iyamkristin
    iyamkristin Posts: 7 Member
    I felt great after my first Whole30 though I did not eliminate nightshades or eggs. Maybe I'll feel even better if I ditch those items.

    Found a really great prep-ahead plan for Whole30 freezable meals: http://blog.stuffimakemyhusband.com/p/whole30-oamc-freezer-menu.html
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    Thanks for the info!i can't wait to check them out!
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    I don't think it's necessary for everyone to give up eggs. I certainly am doing that reluctantly, but it is because my knees hurt almost constantly, and the autoimmune protocol for paleo has you eliminate eggs, nightshades, and nuts to see if you improve.

    Here's a website I found helpful:
    http://www.thepaleomom.com/the-autoimmune-protocol-aip

    You can also google "paleo autoimmune" to find more info.

    HTH!
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    Oh, here's another website I ran across just now with a helpful chart (things to permanently delete, things to eliminate for 30 days and then test (as in reintroducing one at a time to see if you react, I think -- I haven't read the whole page yet), and things to consider taking.

    http://paleononpaleo.com/paleo-autoimmune-protocol/

    Info about nightshades:

    http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62
  • craudi
    craudi Posts: 126 Member
    I'm thinking about starting Whole 30/auto-immune protocol for my fiance. He's got a family history of rheumatoid arthritis and has been really hurting lately. So we're going to see how it goes! He loves nuts and seeds, we both love eggs, and we might not be able to live without tomatoes...but we're going to give it a shot for a while. Oh and cheese...damn. It's for the best though! :) Feel free to add me as well, anyone! I'd love to get more ideas of what people are doing for meals during this. :)
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    Ah, well. I was going to start the Whole30 today, but woke up feeling under the weather. Thought it might be a UTI so started drinking cranberry juice every few hours. Ate Whole30 breakfast (leftover dinner: chicken, rutabagas, carrots, onion all baked together a couple of nights ago) but not sure if I'll be able to eat anything else today because the body is acting more like a stomach bug than a UTI now. (Not going to write any more about that for fear of TMI!)

    Going to go and cuddle on the couch with the Giant Schnauzer and snooze. Will be rooting for you all who started this journey today!
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    My first day is going OK! In the past it was day four that killed me! I think my motivation for doing it this time makes it easier for me. I want to be done with the pain!
  • nemrut
    nemrut Posts: 397 Member
    Yes, pain and other physical issues are certainly motivation for sticking with it. You can do this! I am on day 13 and made it through having my dad and stepmother to dinner last night. I cooked a healthy dinner, but there were drinks and snacks beforehand and chocolate treats at the end, all of which are temptations for me, but I was able to resist. Drank an awful lot of sparkling water to compensate though! Having your family in on it should really help, as well as purging your house of all the temptations. My husband eats all kinds of things that I am avoiding so I need to be extra vigilant and make sure I don't inadvertently pop something into my mouth that I shouldn't.
  • karmahealer
    karmahealer Posts: 38 Member
    I gradually discovered that I could NOT tolerate nightshades. Feel so much better when I avoid them for sure.
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    Oh, here's another website I ran across just now with a helpful chart (things to permanently delete, things to eliminate for 30 days and then test (as in reintroducing one at a time to see if you react, I think -- I haven't read the whole page yet), and things to consider taking.

    http://paleononpaleo.com/paleo-autoimmune-protocol/

    Info about nightshades:

    http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=62

    These are great, thanks for sharing! I had never really understood what a night shade was!
  • karmahealer
    karmahealer Posts: 38 Member
    Thanks for the sites! I am interested in checking them out :)
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    I actually managed to eat within Whole30 guidelines yesterday, despite being sick. I only strayed in one thing (and that was because at the time I wasn't feeling well and so I went on memory rather than looking it up) -- I had butter on my baked yam. Funny how I craved baked yam rather than our typical sick day Sprite-and-toasted-GF-bread! I guess my body's getting used to grain free eating, nearly a month into this different way of eating. Back to the butter... Today I'm going to clarify the pastured organic butter that is in my fridge and then it will be Whole30 compliant.

    For breakfast I had leftover pot-roasted chicken, carrots, and rutabagas from the weekend. It's easy -- just warm it up -- and I don't have to think about food much. Even though I'm not really hungry, it went down easily, and seemed almost as much a comfort food as chicken soup might be. I'm not queasy today, just lacking in energy. Not surprising -- my body thoroughly cleaned itself out yesterday.

    How are you doing on *your* Whole30 today? Any tips to share?
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    Oh! And my knees are *much* better today! Woohoo!
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    My first day is going OK! In the past it was day four that killed me! I think my motivation for doing it this time makes it easier for me. I want to be done with the pain!

    Pain is such a great motivation. I have not been tempted to "cheat" at all since I dropped grains (even GF) and sugar on May 22. It cut the pain down to a dull roar with only occasional flares of incapacitating pain. (Like when I went off nightshades for a week, and then had a nightshade-heavy meal (lots of tomatoes and peppers in homemade spaghetti sauce) and could barely move for two days after.)

    I think the low-level (dull roar) pain might have been related to the fact that I hadn't dropped eggs yet. After two days off eggs, even that background pain seems to be subsiding. It just may be working. I found a couple of egg-free mayo recipes online yesterday, but one is cashew-based (and avoiding nuts is part of the autoimmune protocol) so I'm going to try the other one (today, if I can get up the energy). I can't remember what all is in it except it has coconut oil and lemon juice and is better in cold dishes, is safe at room temp, and tend to turn very liquid in warmer weather.

    I hope when I reintroduce eggs a month from now all will be forgiven and my body will reconcile nicely with them. If not, well, being pain free is worth the restrictions.
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    I am only on my second day and it is hard to imagine being pain free,or even less pain! I am also following the AI plan and am OK with the extra restrictions if it really works for me! I am determined not to get frustrated if I don't see fast results, I realize even a slight improvement this first 30 days is an improvement. That will be enough to keep me motivated.
  • lrmall01
    lrmall01 Posts: 377 Member
    I'd like to get in on this! The giving up dairy will be tough - Fage yogurt, cheese and milk are pretty common in my diet but perhaps eliminating them will be good.

    Is anyone taking photos, measurements, etc. to share before and after?
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    I'd like to get in on this! The giving up dairy will be tough - Fage yogurt, cheese and milk are pretty common in my diet but perhaps eliminating them will be good.

    Is anyone taking photos, measurements, etc. to share before and after?

    I took photos! OMG talk about bad! I also took some of my hands which are very sore and puffy! I am on day 3 and I am doing okay with out dairy! I also dropped eggs (for AI protocol) .. So far so good but from past experience for me the 4 day is the toughest!
  • homesweeths
    homesweeths Posts: 792 Member
    I'd like to get in on this! The giving up dairy will be tough - Fage yogurt, cheese and milk are pretty common in my diet but perhaps eliminating them will be good.

    Is anyone taking photos, measurements, etc. to share before and after?

    I took photos! OMG talk about bad! I also took some of my hands which are very sore and puffy! I am on day 3 and I am doing okay with out dairy! I also dropped eggs (for AI protocol) .. So far so good but from past experience for me the 4 day is the toughest!

    You can do it!

    In my experience, the change was so gradual that I didn't really notice I was getting better until all of a sudden I noticed I was able to climb up stairs again without really thinking about each step. The improvement was not all of a sudden, just little by little, so that I didn't really notice until the little bits added up. By the second week I was feeling much better, which is why I got cocky and added back nightshades at the end of the second week. Big mistake!

    ...so hang in there.

    I'm reminded of my running days. In my 20s I ran 3 to 6 miles a day. I was in the best shape of my life, I think, despite my vegetarian diet and periodic sugar binges. Even so, the first mile was always agony. No exceptions. The closer I got to the one-mile point, the worse I felt, almost as if I was running myself into the flu. My whole body ached, my legs felt like lead, and the feeling that I just needed to quit, it wasn't going to work that day, I just needed to quit and walk back home, that feeling got stronger and stronger the closer I got to the one-mile point. And then suddenly the runner's high would kick in (it was always around the one-mile point), all the pain and effort would drop away and I'd feel like I was running on air, like I could run forever.

    Maybe day 5 (or 6 or 7) is your one-mile point...

    How about on day 4 if you treat yourself with something special, like steak? (Around here, steak is a treat. Don't know what you'd consider a Whole30 treat.)
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    I'd like to get in on this! The giving up dairy will be tough - Fage yogurt, cheese and milk are pretty common in my diet but perhaps eliminating them will be good.

    Is anyone taking photos, measurements, etc. to share before and after?

    I took photos! OMG talk about bad! I also took some of my hands which are very sore and puffy! I am on day 3 and I am doing okay with out dairy! I also dropped eggs (for AI protocol) .. So far so good but from past experience for me the 4 day is the toughest!

    You can do it!

    In my experience, the change was so gradual that I didn't really notice I was getting better until all of a sudden I noticed I was able to climb up stairs again without really thinking about each step. The improvement was not all of a sudden, just little by little, so that I didn't really notice until the little bits added up. By the second week I was feeling much better, which is why I got cocky and added back nightshades at the end of the second week. Big mistake!

    ...so hang in there.

    I'm reminded of my running days. In my 20s I ran 3 to 6 miles a day. I was in the best shape of my life, I think, despite my vegetarian diet and periodic sugar binges. Even so, the first mile was always agony. No exceptions. The closer I got to the one-mile point, the worse I felt, almost as if I was running myself into the flu. My whole body ached, my legs felt like lead, and the feeling that I just needed to quit, it wasn't going to work that day, I just needed to quit and walk back home, that feeling got stronger and stronger the closer I got to the one-mile point. And then suddenly the runner's high would kick in (it was always around the one-mile point), all the pain and effort would drop away and I'd feel like I was running on air, like I could run forever.

    Maybe day 5 (or 6 or 7) is your one-mile point...

    How about on day 4 if you treat yourself with something special, like steak? (Around here, steak is a treat. Don't know what you'd consider a Whole30 treat.)

    Totally LOVE the analogy! Four isn't tough in regards to food as much as cutting back on my carbs. But we do. Have a 'fun dinner' planned. Going boating and stopping at our favorite spot to eat a whole 30 dinner. AI for me too! I already told myself if I start to feel better I won't add night shades, I will give it the 30 days and reevaluate my plan. I am so cool with eating this way if it means I can be pain free! I really do have to keep your story in my mind, so perfect, thanks for sharing it!
  • superjean1
    superjean1 Posts: 78 Member
    I've been doing the Paleo with an autoimmunity twist for a few weeks. Initially no eggs, nuts, nightshades. I last week I tested out nuts a couple of times with no noticable change. Last night I ate tomatoes and am waiting to see what happens.

    Thanks everyone for the great links.
  • AmIhealthyyet
    AmIhealthyyet Posts: 361 Member
    I've been doing the Paleo with an autoimmunity twist for a few weeks. Initially no eggs, nuts, nightshades. I last week I tested out nuts a couple of times with no noticable change. Last night I ate tomatoes and am waiting to see what happens.

    Thanks everyone for the great links.

    So you felt better when you eliminated those foods?