Why can't people enter items correctly?
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Why though?
Why do you try to use arithmetic to adjust nutritional information to incorrect amounts instead of just copying the label and using MFP as a calculator as it was intended?
Why do you input portion sizes as packet or can, so that other users have to try and work out a fraction of a packet or can they want to eat instead of putting the portion in grams (and then adding any notes after in brackets)?
Why don't you put the type of item first, such as soup, lettuce, cheese, tomato, bread etc. first? Why is it completely random where any item is because it starts with Fresh, Good for you, Wholewheat, Smart price, Mini, Dark, White, Super, Medium, Classic, Light, Microwave, Value, Fat free, etc, etc, etc.?
I put packets or cans sometimes because its easier to judge by eye if you're having half a pack of something. Just because it's not how you'd do it - that doesn't mean its been done wrong. Also - putting an accurate item description is means that confirmation and barcode searches work better.0 -
Why though?
Why do you try to use arithmetic to adjust nutritional information to incorrect amounts instead of just copying the label and using MFP as a calculator as it was intended?
Why do you input portion sizes as packet or can, so that other users have to try and work out a fraction of a packet or can they want to eat instead of putting the portion in grams (and then adding any notes after in brackets)?
Why don't you put the type of item first, such as soup, lettuce, cheese, tomato, bread etc. first? Why is it completely random where any item is because it starts with Fresh, Good for you, Wholewheat, Smart price, Mini, Dark, White, Super, Medium, Classic, Light, Microwave, Value, Fat free, etc, etc, etc.?
I put packets or cans sometimes because its easier to judge by eye if you're having half a pack of something. Just because it's not how you'd do it - that doesn't mean its been done wrong. Also - putting an accurate item description is means that confirmation and barcode searches work better.
The nutrional info isn't provided per packet or can, so you have done it wrong.
The search and barcodes will work despite word order, so I've no idea what your point is there.0 -
Why though?
Why do you try to use arithmetic to adjust nutritional information to incorrect amounts instead of just copying the label and using MFP as a calculator as it was intended?
Why do you input portion sizes as packet or can, so that other users have to try and work out a fraction of a packet or can they want to eat instead of putting the portion in grams (and then adding any notes after in brackets)?
Why don't you put the type of item first, such as soup, lettuce, cheese, tomato, bread etc. first? Why is it completely random where any item is because it starts with Fresh, Good for you, Wholewheat, Smart price, Mini, Dark, White, Super, Medium, Classic, Light, Microwave, Value, Fat free, etc, etc, etc.?
I put packets or cans sometimes because its easier to judge by eye if you're having half a pack of something. Just because it's not how you'd do it - that doesn't mean its been done wrong. Also - putting an accurate item description is means that confirmation and barcode searches work better.
The nutrional info isn't provided per packet or can, so you have done it wrong.
The search and barcodes will work despite word order, so I've no idea what your point is there.
It is on the labels I'm putting it in from. Where do you get that the labels don't give it for a portion size? Some don't - and for those I'll use the 100g/ml info but plenty do, so according to you I'm wrong because I do what you don't personally like.
Likewise putting "Soup, Heinz Classic Tomato" instead of "Heinz Classic Tomato Soup" appears to be your personal preference and not something to be critisising others for0 -
They have the portion size in grams on the back, where they list the complete nutritional info, not the partial one on the back that misses out several pieces of information that others may be tracking.
Because I realise some prefer to add by portion, I put the amount in grams first, followed by the portion description in brackets. This allows the people that want accurate measurements to still select 1g x serving, but the 'eyeballers' can still use the portion description.
There is a correct way, and an incorrect way to write an inventory/database, the same way as you're supposed to park between the lines in a carpark.
I realise it is the preference of others to park on roundabouts, kerbs, straddle lines, double yellows, block driveways, and against the flow of traffic, but this doesn't make it right. (You're also supposed to put Heinz under brand, not description.)
I think you're missing the theme of this thread, and seem to be confusing 'why can't' with 'why won't'.
I know people are capable of doing it properly, it's just that they truly believe that they are the only person that matters, and couldn't give a stuff about people.0 -
This annoys me too, I am Dyscalculic/number blind and trying to figure out how much I've eaten using the 0.5 etc is a complete pain. To be honest I find just weighing my food difficult as I don't see numbers very well. There are a few things that annoy me but this just makes my time at MFP more difficult, when I was hoping for the food input to be easier, it's just plain stressful at times.0
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Annoying as it is, people like to use values that they feel comfortable with and if that means just calories, then so be it.
Given this is a US site, the vast majority of MFP defined values for items comes from http://ndb.nal.usda.gov which is US based, but even then there are variations on MFP to what's listed there.
There's nothing stopping you from using other resources or creating your own items to use - this is a free site/app and does a good job of giving folks a starting point.0 -
The portion size thing does my nut mostly in terms of things entered as "cups"
a cup has never been and will never be very accurate ggrr!
though neither are my kitchen scales which only work in even numbers ... stupid scales!
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Just get off your high horse, just enter your own products into the database then you'll know its correct and you can use it again. Every body is different and uses this site to suit them. I find it easy to add my own foods to the data base with a code that i know is my food which Cals etc. have been taken off the packet. If scanning isn't working simple don't use it.
Hey if it annoys you that much how about applying to work for MFP and you could put everyone straight,0 -
Agree that people who won't enter items correctly are annoying. That said, I would blame MFP for being so lenient, not the "uneducated masses" who (by definition) wouldn't know any better.
Or perhaps the MFP system should be more democratic with a system of "upvote/downvote" that would actually order food by number of "upvotes" (related to "accuracy" of the measurements).
Then we would see if the average person prefers measuring in "handfuls" or grams. It is likely that grams would appear consistently higher in the ranking, as a handful is just a personal way of measuring and so would never be "upvoted for accuracy" - everyone would end up with different values.
These lazy @sses should be the ones scrolling down to find their crappy entry. Not us.0 -
It would be good if manufacturers entered the data for their products and maintained it. They could come to an agreement that it is tagged in some way that it is an official entry.0
