Stuff my face in order to break my plateau

graciepecie
graciepecie Posts: 135 Member
Hi y'all,

So I've been losing my weight with the TDEE-20% principle. That went very well! Then I hit a plateau (for almost 3 months) which is very normal. In order to get my hormone levels back to normal and eventually break my plateau, I'm currently eating at TDEE.

I must admit I really really REALLY love to eat at TDEE, because I can eat so much right know:tongue: . The big problem now, is that I really feel I stuff my face with sooo much food in order to reach my TDEE. The downside of this all is that I'm feeling like I'm losing my boundaries that I've created since losing weight. I'm now eating almost everything that I didn't this last few months, so I'm worrying that when I reach my goal weight, I will left everything I've learned about food, behind me and go back to my way of eating in the past..

How do you manage these things?

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  • zenalasca
    zenalasca Posts: 563 Member
    I personally think that you may start gaining weight again, but when you return to reduced calories you'll break the plateau.
  • littlepinkhearts
    littlepinkhearts Posts: 1,055 Member
    I believe your TDEE lowers every time you lose 5 or so pounds? Which means your TDEE should be lowering as you move in on your goal weight. So you shouldn't have much of a number gap by the time you reach goal.
  • nmb0717
    nmb0717 Posts: 130 Member
    I feel like that too... With all my activity, it puts my TDEE at like 2900!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I believe your TDEE lowers every time you lose 5 or so pounds? Which means your TDEE should be lowering as you move in on your goal weight. So you shouldn't have much of a number gap by the time you reach goal.

    Depends on what your TDEE is based on for BMR.

    If Katch BMR based on body fat% and you've lost little LBM and mainly fat mass, your BMR and TDEE will not lower much.

    But if you started with an inflated BMR based on age, weight, height, then indeed that would lower down to more correct figures as your ratio LBM to fat mass came more in line with what is expected.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    At that point, you'll probably go to more of a MFP method, eating at non-exercise maintenance, and only eating extra when you exercise.

    But very true that ability to eat more at maintenance makes it easier to go overboard. But remember with stronger body with more retained muscle mass, you have a bigger window for error of eating more sometimes and body will take care of it.
    Obviously you over eat constantly and you'll have problems again, so all about learning what you can and shouldn't have, for your own mental make-up.

    If making that pan of brownies for the family has you eating 1 a day, fine.
    If they are snarfed up before the family ever sees them, better not happen more than once.
  • graciepecie
    graciepecie Posts: 135 Member
    At that point, you'll probably go to more of a MFP method, eating at non-exercise maintenance, and only eating extra when you exercise.

    But very true that ability to eat more at maintenance makes it easier to go overboard. But remember with stronger body with more retained muscle mass, you have a bigger window for error of eating more sometimes and body will take care of it.
    Obviously you over eat constantly and you'll have problems again, so all about learning what you can and shouldn't have, for your own mental make-up.

    If making that pan of brownies for the family has you eating 1 a day, fine.
    If they are snarfed up before the family ever sees them, better not happen more than once.

    Sorry, but this ^^ totally doesn't describes me. I almost never over eat.

    The point is that when I'm losing weight I eat 1600 cals. Now that I eat TDEE for maintenance, I get to eat 2100 cals. That's a big difference, so now I feel like I eat all day. And I don't mind it, because I love food. But it scares me a bit that when I've reached my goal, I won't eat as healthy like I did, because I have a lot of calories left and I fill them up with bad food...

    That was the point I made, not that I stuff my face with a 100 brownies before the family arrived, that's kind of an insult...
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    At that point, you'll probably go to more of a MFP method, eating at non-exercise maintenance, and only eating extra when you exercise.

    But very true that ability to eat more at maintenance makes it easier to go overboard. But remember with stronger body with more retained muscle mass, you have a bigger window for error of eating more sometimes and body will take care of it.
    Obviously you over eat constantly and you'll have problems again, so all about learning what you can and shouldn't have, for your own mental make-up.

    If making that pan of brownies for the family has you eating 1 a day, fine.
    If they are snarfed up before the family ever sees them, better not happen more than once.

    Sorry, but this ^^ totally doesn't describes me. I almost never over eat.

    The point is that when I'm losing weight I eat 1600 cals. Now that I eat TDEE for maintenance, I get to eat 2100 cals. That's a big difference, so now I feel like I eat all day. And I don't mind it, because I love food. But it scares me a bit that when I've reached my goal, I won't eat as healthy like I did, because I have a lot of calories left and I fill them up with bad food...

    That was the point I made, not that I stuff my face with a 100 brownies before the family arrived, that's kind of an insult...

    Sorry, I thought I knew exactly what you were talking about actually.
    And I thought I said what you just said - "eat more at maintenance makes it easier to go overboard" - "it scares me a bit that when I've reached my goal, I won't eat as healthy like I did, because I have a lot of calories left and I fill them up with bad food..."

    You are concerned you'll make bad food choices to use up now more calories available.

    And my example was merely an example - notice I did provide 2 possible outcomes.

    So you aren't the second example, fine, no need to feel insulted because it was examples of what is possible. I wasn't like stating what i think you do in either case, it's for you to ask yourself.
  • graciepecie
    graciepecie Posts: 135 Member
    At that point, you'll probably go to more of a MFP method, eating at non-exercise maintenance, and only eating extra when you exercise.

    But very true that ability to eat more at maintenance makes it easier to go overboard. But remember with stronger body with more retained muscle mass, you have a bigger window for error of eating more sometimes and body will take care of it.
    Obviously you over eat constantly and you'll have problems again, so all about learning what you can and shouldn't have, for your own mental make-up.

    If making that pan of brownies for the family has you eating 1 a day, fine.
    If they are snarfed up before the family ever sees them, better not happen more than once.

    Sorry, but this ^^ totally doesn't describes me. I almost never over eat.

    The point is that when I'm losing weight I eat 1600 cals. Now that I eat TDEE for maintenance, I get to eat 2100 cals. That's a big difference, so now I feel like I eat all day. And I don't mind it, because I love food. But it scares me a bit that when I've reached my goal, I won't eat as healthy like I did, because I have a lot of calories left and I fill them up with bad food...

    That was the point I made, not that I stuff my face with a 100 brownies before the family arrived, that's kind of an insult...

    Sorry, I thought I knew exactly what you were talking about actually.
    And I thought I said what you just said - "eat more at maintenance makes it easier to go overboard" - "it scares me a bit that when I've reached my goal, I won't eat as healthy like I did, because I have a lot of calories left and I fill them up with bad food..."

    You are concerned you'll make bad food choices to use up now more calories available.

    And my example was merely an example - notice I did provide 2 possible outcomes.

    So you aren't the second example, fine, no need to feel insulted because it was examples of what is possible. I wasn't like stating what i think you do in either case, it's for you to ask yourself.

    Okidoki!
  • AnitraSoto
    AnitraSoto Posts: 725 Member
    I think I know exactly what you mean --- I live in constant fear of gaining my weight back. Even though I really don't think it will happen, it has certainly happened before...

    The only way I am able to keep on track is to not allow myself to have those foods which I consider to be "unhealthy". I just can't have them around me at all. As much as I love them, I just can't have them in the house, or at about 8pm, when I become weak, it would all be over! I am an all or nothing kind of person, and know that and have to plan accordingly and avoid thee "trigger foods".

    Now that I am at maintenance, I am just continuing to lift heavy to try and build muscle so I can continue to eat at this level. I try to eat at a slight deficit of about 2200 calories a day (my TDEE is around 2300), and then on Friday, I continue to eat my healthy foods, but don't worry about the calories at all. Sort of a mental break day. Knowing that Friday is coming makes it easier to resist things through the rest of the week. Perhaps if you set up a plan like that where you plan a mental break day?

    For me, I know how much better I feel when I am eating "clean"er and try to avoid the processed "bad" foods. To reach my calorie goal, on days when I am low, a handful of almonds has an amazing way of filling out my diary! If I do want a treat, like CHOCOLATE, I will buy a small portion of something high quality and enjoy it all ! No jumbo sized packages for me :-)

    I am just trying to find a way that I can maintain where I am not miserable thinking about calories every single second of the day and obsessing over every little thing :-)
  • littlepinkhearts
    littlepinkhearts Posts: 1,055 Member
    I believe your TDEE lowers every time you lose 5 or so pounds? Which means your TDEE should be lowering as you move in on your goal weight. So you shouldn't have much of a number gap by the time you reach goal.

    Depends on what your TDEE is based on for BMR.

    If Katch BMR based on body fat% and you've lost little LBM and mainly fat mass, your BMR and TDEE will not lower much.

    But if you started with an inflated BMR based on age, weight, height, then indeed that would lower down to more correct figures as your ratio LBM to fat mass came more in line with what is expected.

    Thanks, that's good to know. I'm using the one on your spreadsheet which is the Katch if I remember correctly.