Cheaters/Short cuts
PaleoChocolateBear
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I'm curious if anyone has people at their box that cheat just to get the win. We've got a few at our box and I don't get it I love to win but I'd rather lose not cheating and get a great workout then cheat to win and not do all the reps.
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I have never noticed anyone at my gym "cheating." I agree with your mindset regarding cheating though. I try to only compete with myself anyway, not anyone else.0
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It causes you to do extra burpees at our box and you are humiliated,shunned and exiled to the corner. lol0
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It causes you to do extra burpees at our box and you are humiliated,shunned and exiled to the corner. lol
Wish we did that, but we just have some coaches who won't coach them anymore because they are willing to work0 -
Personally, I don't think too much into it anymore. Yes it's annoying to know that you are following the rules while they are blatantly breaking them, but that happens every day in life as well. All cheaters will get outed at one point or another even if no one else notices them right now. When the Open comes around or any competition that they may try out since they think they're so bad-A, they'll have a judge counting their reps and it will become very very clear that they have not been doing what they claim to have been doing.
Dirty laundry always gets aired sooner or later.0 -
Yeah, I don't get the point of cheating. Like ascrit said, we're only competing against ourselves really. That's especially true for me since I'm just finishing my first month at my box. I feel like a pansy with some of the weight that I'm lifting, but I know I'll get there soon enough and I'm more focused on learning the proper technique than putting up huge weight. So, as long as I finish the WOD, I don't really care if I'm last...for now. My competitive fire will be lit soon enough, but I still won't cheat.0
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I have never noticed that any of the folks that I work out with regularly are cheating, but my coach did tell us that one of the kids who attends was cheating. He did not name names, but I know that he addressed it with him personally.
As others have said, they are only cheating themselves and will eventually be found out. Like 1PatinetBear, I am nearly always the last to finish, but I really couldn't care less about that. For me, it's about getting the work done and getting it done right.0 -
Really how would you know unless a coach told you or you watched another class. If you noticed while you were working out then you aren't pushing yourself hard enough. We had a split class one time and I noticed then. I also noticed someone that completed more rounds than she wrote down. I use to tell em don't worry about keeping up with mine and I didn't want it posted, oh the shame. lol0
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I've never known it to be formally addressed at my box, but I know I have seen several people cheat to be at top of fininshers. And like most of you have said, it's usually the people who think they are the super bad-*kitten* that are doing it. Weak-sauce!0
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Really how would you know unless a coach told you or you watched another class. If you noticed while you were working out then you aren't pushing yourself hard enough. We had a split class one time and I noticed then. I also noticed someone that completed more rounds than she wrote down. I use to tell em don't worry about keeping up with mine and I didn't want it posted, oh the shame. lol
I agree. I probably wouldn't recognize it because I was too busy killing myself on my own workout.0 -
I always say I'm the worst counter in CrossFit. Why? Because I give everything I've got and realize it's not about the white board. If someone wants to be a busy body and count my reps or rounds, be my guest. I promise you I've missed some and I've done extra. Of course, I've maybe finished three times in two years.
The people I work out with do not give a rats-*kitten* about the "win" during class.
I gotta say this whole post just rubs me the wrong way.
ETA: I will say that I know all of the lifting PR's of my girls. Why? Because we cheer and celebrate and that makes it memorable for me.
That's what I pay attention to, victories.0 -
Big question is, why do you care?
Mind your own workout, them shorting themselves isn't hurting you.0 -
I always say I'm the worst counter in CrossFit. Why? Because I give everything I've got and realize it's not about the white board. If someone wants to be a busy body and count my reps or rounds, be my guest. I promise you I've missed some and I've done extra. Of course, I've maybe finished three times in two years.
The people I work out with do not give a rats-*kitten* about the "win" during class.
I gotta say this whole post just rubs me the wrong way.
ETA: I will say that I know all of the lifting PR's of my girls. Why? Because we cheer and celebrate and that makes it memorable for me.
That's what I pay attention to, victories.
Well said!0 -
I always say I'm the worst counter in CrossFit. Why? Because I give everything I've got and realize it's not about the white board. If someone wants to be a busy body and count my reps or rounds, be my guest. I promise you I've missed some and I've done extra. Of course, I've maybe finished three times in two years.
The people I work out with do not give a rats-*kitten* about the "win" during class.
I gotta say this whole post just rubs me the wrong way.
ETA: I will say that I know all of the lifting PR's of my girls. Why? Because we cheer and celebrate and that makes it memorable for me.
That's what I pay attention to, victories.
And this is why we like you, Karin. Well said.0 -
Well this led to an interesting discussion, and it's been interesting at my box it's funny because the two that are accused of cheating are females and I've never noticed when I have done a wod with them because I just go to work out and get better. My personal thoughts on it is if someone is cheating or short cutting intentionally that's their loss, they aren't getting better and they're wasting money you get into any workout you do what you put out. Apparently at my box this has become an issue for some but if someone is that pressed about the white board then that's their issue I love my time and rounds whether fast or slow high or low. I'm to the point I'm almost rxing every wod and that means the world to me so if I go a bit slower doing rx but getting screw a win.
I was just wondering if this was a discussion that happen at anyone else's box0 -
I can only adequately describe my appreciation for this post with this picture.I always say I'm the worst counter in CrossFit. Why? Because I give everything I've got and realize it's not about the white board. If someone wants to be a busy body and count my reps or rounds, be my guest. I promise you I've missed some and I've done extra. Of course, I've maybe finished three times in two years.
The people I work out with do not give a rats-*kitten* about the "win" during class.
I gotta say this whole post just rubs me the wrong way.
ETA: I will say that I know all of the lifting PR's of my girls. Why? Because we cheer and celebrate and that makes it memorable for me.
That's what I pay attention to, victories.
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I can only adequately describe my appreciation for this post with this picture.I always say I'm the worst counter in CrossFit. Why? Because I give everything I've got and realize it's not about the white board. If someone wants to be a busy body and count my reps or rounds, be my guest. I promise you I've missed some and I've done extra. Of course, I've maybe finished three times in two years.
The people I work out with do not give a rats-*kitten* about the "win" during class.
I gotta say this whole post just rubs me the wrong way.
ETA: I will say that I know all of the lifting PR's of my girls. Why? Because we cheer and celebrate and that makes it memorable for me.
That's what I pay attention to, victories.
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I always finish in the bottom somewhere, not for lack of trying to not, but hey the workout is rough. I work hard to get all my numbers done, but you know what sometimes you just can't make that final snatch, it just isn't in you, but for me it is not to finish first, because that never happens, it's just that I can't, especially if I just moved up in weight.
I hate cheating and I try hard to get every count, because I am paying that lump sum of cash to my box each month, only person I am short changing is myself0 -
Forgive my ignorance, but cheating HOW? I mean, what is cheating in crossfit and what is it versus scaling? What if someone scaled the workout reps or weight? I guess I'm not following what exactly cheating is unless there's some sort of award.
I look at crossfit as a form of exercise, and my prize is meeting my fitness/weight loss goals. I don't see it as if I'm the fastest/strongest I'll get a major award at the end.....unless there are boxes that do that.
Are there any? I may need to find those.0 -
Forgive my ignorance, but cheating HOW? I mean, what is cheating in crossfit and what is it versus scaling? What if someone scaled the workout reps or weight? I guess I'm not following what exactly cheating is unless there's some sort of award.
I look at crossfit as a form of exercise, and my prize is meeting my fitness/weight loss goals. I don't see it as if I'm the fastest/strongest I'll get a major award at the end.....unless there are boxes that do that.
Are there any? I may need to find those.
I look at it this way; if you are scaling then that is something you decide to do before your workout, like doing ring rows instead of pull ups or doing 10 reps instead of 20. Cheating is saying you did 20 reps when you really did 10 or yelling out, "TIME!" when in reality you still have reps left to do of lying about whether you scaled or not.0 -
Forgive my ignorance, but cheating HOW? I mean, what is cheating in crossfit and what is it versus scaling? What if someone scaled the workout reps or weight? I guess I'm not following what exactly cheating is unless there's some sort of award.
I look at crossfit as a form of exercise, and my prize is meeting my fitness/weight loss goals. I don't see it as if I'm the fastest/strongest I'll get a major award at the end.....unless there are boxes that do that.
Are there any? I may need to find those.
I look at it this way; if you are scaling then that is something you decide to do before your workout, like doing ring rows instead of pull ups or doing 10 reps instead of 20. Cheating is saying you did 20 reps when you really did 10 or yelling out, "TIME!" when in reality you still have reps left to do of lying about whether you scaled or not.
perfect. It's claiming to do something that you did not in fact do, or attempt to do since sometimes reps get miscounted or mixed up (an easy easy thing to do!). If I even feel like I miscounted, I never put my rounds or time for others to see. And if I track it in my notebook I put a "?" next to it so that I know I wasn't absolutely certain that I did every rep I was supposed to.0 -
I often just get a post-it and a pencil and keep track of my rounds that way. Easy-peasy. :-)0
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Okay.....Got it. So it's a whiteboard/Wodify thing? I'm guilty of miscounting or losing track of my reps or jumps when doing singles (easy when trying to count to 450). Typically I try to do extra to compensate.
Heck half the time I forget to enter my Metcon time/reps into Wodify. I'm trying to get better at putting my weightlifting amounts there because I can never remember.
Again - I'm too tired/focused/exhausted to know what's going on around me. Plus, I couldn't care less if they did lie. It cheats them in the end, not me.0 -
it does happen in our box, but the coaches seem to spot it, and speak to the person individually. its important not to cheat as our coaches use our times, weights etc in order to design their programming around our capabilities. So pretending your a super hero isn't going to do anyone any favours in the end.
If I think i've messed up a count, i'll add a few extras at the end. If I know i'm likely to miscount rounds/reps in a particularly insane or action packed WOD, i'll use a clicker.0 -
We track each classes scores on the board. You can spot the cheaters pretty quickly if you compare times and loads. Granted there are the Ninjas who are just beasts at WODs, but you know who they are by reputation.
I'm talking about the people who post Filthy 50 times of less than 20 minutes when more experienced & fit CrossFitters are posting 30 minute times. If you lie about the time did you really win? And is there a win in a daily WOD? It's not the games bro!
Bottom line, I'm there for me and I don't really care if someone is cheating themselves. If they are, it shows their character. Besides, if they ever do a competition their lying will be exposed immediately LOL.0 -
I have never noticed anyone intentionally cheating at my box, but apparently it happens. There have been a few times now where the coaches have made statements about cheaters only cheating themselves, blah blah blah. Honestly, I don't really care what anyone else does. If you can afford to pay that much money to cheat yourself, whatever man. The only time I even look at the board to see other people's times/reps/score is to estimate approximately how long a workout will take me or approximately how many rounds I might do.0
