calories up or calories down?
wannaberunner33
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I have been on MFP since 11/2011. I have lost (slowly) 80 pounds. In the beginning I followed MFP's suggestions of 1200 calories and was stalled for a loooong time. I raised my calories to different amounts ranging from 1500 to 1850 since that time. I would like to lose another 20 pounds. I think that it is time again to reevaluate my calorie intake. The past 3 months I have only lost 6 pounds. I run 3 or 4 times a week . I am going to be training to run a half marathon. I know that I should be lifting, but I really don't want to. I have been eating 1750 since May. I am a 45 year old 5 foot 6 inch women that weights (shhh don't tell..... 169.5). My job is pretty sedentary even though I stand most of my day. I know that as I get closer to the goal weight that things could slow down. I would just like to set myself up for success. I hope that I can get some advice from some knowlegable people here. So, should I up the calories or lower them or just keep them the same?? Thanks in advance for your feedback. I appreciate it
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No need to lift heavy weights if you do not enjoy it.
If you are training for a half marathon you need to eat accordingly
Even though your job might be sedentary I at your hight and weight you should increase your calories
When I punch your numbers in the calculator it gives me a TDEE of 2300 with moderate activity level, that would give you a deficit of over 500 kcals I think that your TDEE might be even higher when you are running a lot. TDEE with 5-6 hours of exercise would be 2550.
That means your deficit would certainly be too steep
If anything increase your calories. Try to shoot for 2000 and see what happens. I have a feeling you will just start dropping the weight again if you do so.0 -
Thanks noor13!0
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I agree with Noor! You should be eating enough to be at the very least at a 20% defecit from you TDEE!
Do you know what your burns are when you run? And just out of curiosity--why no lifting?0 -
Thanks for commenting. I wear a heart rate monitor for calorie burn. On average, over the last two months I burn approximately 1200-1400 from my workouts weekly. I am going to try to train for a half marathon in March. I really don't have much equipment for lifting. I have 2 15#each dumbbells. I know my son has some weights and a bench in our shed. The shed has no electricity and no heat. Super hot in the summer, freezing in the winter. I just can't put my finger on it, but more or less I just think that lifting is boring. The lifting .... waiting....lifting....waiting....lifting for the sets just drags. Also, if I had enought plates to use the weight bar and bench, I am alone lifting weights. I receive much more pleasure from cardio. I have been throwing in maybe twice a week a workout from the website muscleandstrength.com. Its a dumbell only workout. I assume that doing that only 2 times a week isn't all that beneficial. I hope you see this post. I have been busy all week and haven't had a chance to reply until now.
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lifting twice a week is great! It will take you to the point of the next level...if and when you chose to dive in a little deeper!
I too am a recovering cardio junkie! lol. I have actually upgraded to HIIT--which you can also do using either light weights or body weight as resistance. LOVE me some HIIT! But...it was frustrating to not lose the lbs like I wanted. So I thought the same as you....boring weights....boring. But.....I started lifting, and could see results...wow kind of results. That spurred me on. I get bored very easily--but there are so many ways to lift weights....the possibilities are endless! Now I skip the cardio classes in favor of working out on my own....I just really enjoy watching my strength increase my inches decrease...really fun!
So you have to do what you love....first and foremost. And your keep going on your 2 x/week sessions! You may just find that you catch the lifting bug!!! BTW....can you move the bench into a corner of your house??? I will check out muscleandstrength.com....not familiar! Happy Friday to you!0 -
Even though you might not be in active training yet for marathon, you may have longer runs, so I'm going to suggest a different method that will work better for that varied workout.
Because really, taking a big calorie burn day, and spreading those calories out through the week for eating back in essence, doesn't really help the day of the big burn. You really need those extra calories after the workout, replace glucose stores for the next workout.
What HRM are you using, and does it have a VO2max stat and maybe self-test?
If not, is your BMI considered in healthy range for your gender and age?
Because your HRM calories may be very under-estimated actually since you've been running.
What you should do is pick a non-exercise level of activity, might be Lightly Active if you have kids or job on your feet.
Then take your reasonable deficit from that.
Now log any exercise above that, with the calories with the same deficit % taken off, and eat that all back.
That way you get calories when you need them, post workout.
So when you start having 2000-3000 calorie burn on a weekend day, you can eat better for breakfast to get glucose stores built up, and have bigger snacks and dinner to replenish what you burned, to have a good recovery. But you'll still get 15% deficit from that extra burn.
Also, HIIT was designed exactly for you, wanting to do cardio only, but want or could use some benefit from lifting type workout.
Which is all out anaerobic push with rests to repeat several times.
So once a week only (should be no more than 20% of cardio time), try the following workout proceeded by a rest day. You need fresh muscles so you can really push hard, if you aren't pushing as hard as muscles can do when fresh, body will have no need to improve the strength of the muscles. Must be done outside, track with softer surface is good. Many Timex watches have interval feature to make this easier, nicer Polar's do to. Garmins very simple to setup.
10 min warm-up walk with some active stretching in there.
2 min jog at aerobic HR zone.
15 sec all out sprint. Don't think about fact of doing it again, push it as hard as possible for the moment.
45 sec walk decent pace. HR should come down, breathing should return to normal, breath deep.
Repeat 8 times. Hopefully it feels like the 8th rep is as fast as the 1st rep, of course it should feel about the same, and hopefully HR is still reaching the same high level. If not, that means muscle is weak, and it will see improvement big time from this.
20 min Jog in Active Recovery HR zone (aka badly called fat-burning zone). Allows recharging ATP stores and clearing out lactate acid from that effort.
1 min sprint at pace below sprint, but still as fast as you can for the whole minute, may take some practice for that pace to sustain for whole min, but should be just as wiped out at the end of it as 15 sec sprint.
1 min walk.
Repeat 5 times. This is wiping out ATP stores and using lactic acid as best as possible, training system for high aerobic level, low anaerobic level. This is not really HIIT, just intervals, improves breathing and oxygen uptake.
10 min cool-down walk with active stretching.
You could also alternate this weekly with hill sprints. Hill should be no longer than 45 seconds full blast up or walk before the top is reached, walk back down, don't run. Jog on the flats, should be at minimum sprint time x 3 for recovery walking before you jog again, get about 10 hills in there, you should feel done. Really reach out the stride to engage the glutes, should feel pain the next day like you did squats, which you did kinda.
Next day should be rest day, or at most a short 30-60 min run in the Active Recovery HR zone, which will feel maybe too slow, but it is what you need. You need to repair muscles, so don't add any new load they need to recovery from, or you'll waste the interval workout.
So that's 2 days taken care of, now you have time for a 60 min aerobic HR zone run, or actually any cardio like bike ride if you want to give joints a rest from the pounding.
Then the long run day, mid-Aerobic HR zone.
Rest day follows and probably proceeds as it gets longer, just walking for muscle recovery.
So you mainly need to be training the aerobic fat-burning system for endurance, but the HIIT and interval routine will increase your lactic acid level, which also expands your aerobic zone.
So that's 4 days of week of running, with 2 big calorie burn days. If you have time, you should throw some upper body strength training in there, day before long run or 60 min aerobic run, or same day as short recovery run. Got all kinds of options for couple upper body routines.
Because even with eating at reasonable deficit, and enough on days of big workouts, you'll still risk muscle mass that is not used, especially on longer runs. So use that upper body muscle.
For your calorie setup to keep it simple, just change your MFP activity level to Lightly Active, unless truly sedentary, and weight loss goal to maintain.
Fitness goal doesn't matter, unless you actually use that on the exercise tab, most don't even know it's there.
Then go to manually setup your net eating goal, since the above just reset it. Take 15% off whatever they put in there already, change macros to whatever you want, and save.
Now log your HRM calories with same 15% removed, and meet the daily eating goal given to you.0 -
Wow! Alot to digest. You guys are so knowlegable. I think that I am actually going to print out a calendar for myself with each workout already typed in. I am more visual. After each workout checking them off. I'm feeling a little overwhelmed, but breaking days into more manageable segments all written out, I think will help me. I'm going to start out and keep you all posted. I am so grateful that I am able to be on this site and have so many valuable resources available to me. You all are great!
Thanks again!0