Help..brand new to emtwl

Lonasue32
Lonasue32 Posts: 109 Member
Really sorry if this post is like a million others. I am 200lb, 5'4", female, 43 years old. I have been eating 1200 cals for over a year. Probably 6 months was more like 1000 cals. I have a desk job. I have been doing jillians 30 day shred daily level 1 till tomorrow. Think this might be considered 20 min circuit training. I have lost 35lbs in the last 12 months but have been tired and hungry. I just upped my mfp goals to 1330 two days ago but am wondering do I do a reset? Not sure exactly how that works. And if not do I try to go all the way up to TDEE - 20% all at once? Do those calories need to all be healthy? Realistically it may be hard to bump up a lot all at once and I'm not the best Eater.

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  • conniedj
    conniedj Posts: 470 Member
    Let me be the first to welcome you!!!!!

    I already sent you the link for Heybale's most AWESOME spreadsheet--were you able to fill it out and get your TDEE and BMR?
    TDEE=Total Daily Energy Expenditure...this is how many calories YOU burn on a given day with a set amount of activities. ( including work, sleep, working out, etc.)
    BMR=Basal Metabolic Rate...this is the amount of calories require for maintaining basic bodily function.

    Basically eating a a low deficit over time will cause the body to compensate by lowering your metabolic rate...this can cause you to lose weight--at first, but then either plateau or even gain while the deficit becomes greater and greater. If this is the case...a RESET is in order! You can work up to your TDEE either slowly, 100-200 calories at a time, or jump in head first ( like I did!). How long is a reset? Each person is different. It just really depends on how depleted your body is to how much time it requires to heal. So you decide...what is your long term goal? You've done a great job losing so far...but you want to be healthy....and face it eating to be healthy is way better than feeling yucky, tired and hungry all the time!

    As for your workout....it's circuit training if you are doing either body weight for resistance ( like pushups, squats), and your are going at a rate that doesn't allow a break in between sets. Have you or are you planning on starting a lifting routine? It's not mandatory....but really an awesome way to build lean muscle mass, which helps re-shape your body!
  • Lonasue32
    Lonasue32 Posts: 109 Member
    I was able to get the spreadsheet to work. It says the following:


    Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) 1,547

    Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) 2,235

    Total Daily Eating Goal (TDEG) 1,585

    Average Daily Deficit Calories 650


    So you just jumped in and ate your TDEE? and did a reset. How long did you eat at your TDEE? I can't even imagine trying to eat 2235 calories unless I just ate constantly all day and ate crap food. Or a lot of almonds I really like almonds and usually only eat 10 at a time because of calories. But it also looks like I have been WAY under eating if this all calculates right. Hadn't planned on doing weight training.

    Thanks for all of your help with this Connie.
  • 22sep2013
    22sep2013 Posts: 13 Member
    I can't even imagine trying to eat 2235 calories unless I just ate constantly all day and ate crap food. Or a lot of almonds I really like almonds and usually only eat 10 at a time because of calories. But it also looks like I have been WAY under eating if this all calculates right. Hadn't planned on doing weight training.

    Thanks for all of your help with this Connie.

    I don't think 2235 calories a day is too much ... and if you eat crap food you will be surprised that your calorie intake may go over 3000 ... we usually tend to underestimate how much we eat in terms of calories ...

    If you plan your meals well i am sure 2235 calories won't be that much ...

    Best of luck to you
  • 22sep2013
    22sep2013 Posts: 13 Member

    I already sent you the link for Heybale's most AWESOME spreadsheet--were you able to fill it out and get your TDEE and BMR?
    TDEE=Total Daily Energy Expenditure...this is how many calories YOU burn on a given day with a set amount of activities. ( including work, sleep, working out, etc.)
    BMR=Basal Metabolic Rate...this is the amount of calories require for maintaining basic bodily function.

    Unfortunately this sheet isn't working for me at all ... no matter how many times i alter the activity level my TDEE stays nearly the same ... my real activity level is as follows:
    90 minutes of lifting / 45 min twice a week
    160 minutes fast walking / 55 minutes three times a week

    here my TDEE is 1958

    so for experiment sake i went ahead and altered my activity level to this:

    5 days a week of strength training / one hour each (this means 5 hours of strength training/ lifting a week)
    2 Days a week of high cardio / 2 hours each (4 hours of high cardio a week)

    what is the TDEE i got? 2030 ! which is only 72 calories difference ... how is that possible?

    on other calculators like scooby's my (after altering the activity level) TDEE was 2762 ...i think this is a huge difference ...
    i also got a TDEE of 2800 on fatsecrets.com calculator

    later on i made several changes to my activity levels and my TDEE stayed nearly the same

    am i doing anything wrong? is activity level so irrelevant?
  • conniedj
    conniedj Posts: 470 Member
    @ Lonasue: It is up to you to eat good fats, and good calories. I don't eat much junk food.....non-gmo potato chips, and ice cream for me. I do nuts, granola, whole raw milk, fruits, veggies, meat, eggs, CHEESE!!. And I just cut down to 2500 from 2800. While it is an adjustment, it can be done wisely! I have to have breakfast now....especially on days I work out: I do a green shake, and an organic peanut butter and fruit spread on good bread with a glass of whole raw organic milk. Plus my daily green shake. It's really up to you! Why invest in just losing weight when you can invest in a better, amazing healthier you??

    @22sep2013--Post all your stats. Either you have very little to lose--which I suspect, or your missing a number somewhere. Not sure which....and Heybale's will probably be along to help you adjust!
  • 22sep2013
    22sep2013 Posts: 13 Member

    @22sep2013--Post all your stats. Either you have very little to lose--which I suspect, or your missing a number somewhere. Not sure which....and Heybale's will probably be along to help you adjust!

    Thanks Conniedj :)

    Current Weight 70 kg
    Ideal weight (according to the spreadsheet) 58 Kg
    Height 167 cm
    Strength training/ twice a week/ 45 minutes each (without warm up and stretch)
    Walking (not the slow type/ mostly uphill and downhill) 3 times a week / 55 minutes each
  • Wait to see the replies. I have some of the same kind of questions.
  • FourIsCompany
    FourIsCompany Posts: 269 Member
    Lonasue32 and Peppermint - I'm 300 lbs, 56 and have lost 80 lbs. This is my experience up to now:

    I started my reset on Aug 19. I upped my calories 100 per day and stayed there for a week. Then I did that again, and again, and again, every Monday, till I reached TDEE. It was wonderful to eat and feel energy again! Then I stayed there (at TDEE) for 2 weeks and started slowly gaining weight. This past Monday, I cut my calories back 15% under TDEE, which brings me to about 1825 calories per day and I have started to lose.

    I'm lifting weights 3X per week and swimming twice per week.

    I thought it would be impossible to eat 2200 calories, but I found it was pretty easy to do while limiting junk food. It just takes some planning. I made sure to eat an early breakfast and have snacks (rice cakes w/peanut butter, fruit and cheese stick, almonds and a banana).

    I think everyone's experience is a little different and depends on your dieting history. While I have spent some time on 1200 calorie dieting (and less) I usually couldn't stay on the diet very long and ended up cheating or even binging. I also did lo-carb, paleo, and several other things, so my calories were all over the place. I'm not sure how damaged my metabolism was, but my body was certainly confused as to my intentions... Now, I think I've convinced my body that I'm not going to withhold the fuel that it needs.

    In my opinion, lifting weights is the single most important thing you can do to help your body get well. Good luck!
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Unfortunately this sheet isn't working for me at all ... no matter how many times i alter the activity level my TDEE stays nearly the same ... my real activity level is as follows:
    90 minutes of lifting / 45 min twice a week
    160 minutes fast walking / 55 minutes three times a week

    here my TDEE is 1958

    so for experiment sake i went ahead and altered my activity level to this:

    5 days a week of strength training / one hour each (this means 5 hours of strength training/ lifting a week)
    2 Days a week of high cardio / 2 hours each (4 hours of high cardio a week)

    what is the TDEE i got? 2030 ! which is only 72 calories difference ... how is that possible?

    on other calculators like scooby's my (after altering the activity level) TDEE was 2762 ...i think this is a huge difference ...
    i also got a TDEE of 2800 on fatsecrets.com calculator

    later on i made several changes to my activity levels and my TDEE stayed nearly the same

    am i doing anything wrong? is activity level so irrelevant?

    Sorry I missed this.
    90 min lifting, 160 min med cardio - activity factor 1.37 x BMR

    300 min lifting, 240 min high cardio - activity factor 1.69 x BMR

    Ya, your copy is messed up for some reason. I had someone on another thread use the Excel conversion, and it was messed up copy.
    So you might download again.
    If this is the Google spreadsheet, I've had times where it didn't update correctly until I deleted entries I just changed. Very strange.

    Without having the BF% stat, so no Katch BMR as foundation, using Mifflin the TDEE is 1909.
    So I'm betting the 1954 was using Katch BMR, and is the more correct one.

    Why would that TDEE be so different than the websites?
    Is 1 hr of walking the same calorie burn as running, or as lifting? No.
    Also, with 4 hrs you probably selected Moderately Active 3-5 hrs right? But that's a range actually from half way between one level and the other.
    I am concerned they are that far off though, what activity level did you pick, and what BMR did they use?

    Also, I didn't include any increased daily activity from more than sedentary desk job as your 40 hr work week time.
  • Lonasue32
    Lonasue32 Posts: 109 Member
    Well I got the sheet to work. I am going get serious now and try not to be under/over the target calories. Today I committed to upping my calories. I am going from 1200 to 1547 I had been playing with it for a few days and calculated everything and am going to really give it a go this week. I am afraid but I know I can't live on 1200 calories the rest of my life.

    Just so I have a starting point I can look back on here are my stats.

    CW 200
    GW 136

    Waist 41 on 10/05/2013
    Hips 49.5 on 10/05/2013
    Bicep 13.5 on 10/05/2013
    chest 44.8 on 10/05/2013
    Thigh 23.5 on 10/05/2013
    Belly Button Waist 44.5 on 10/05/2013
  • conniedj
    conniedj Posts: 470 Member
    Courage: Seeing that which you know you must do, sense the fear rising within you, doing it anyway! Go Courage!