Doctors, tests etc.
KentWhiteRabbit
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I'm 42 and have classic peri-menopause symptoms. The mood swings are the worst, unpredictable and totally screwing up certain aspects of life. Early menopause runs in my family.
The thing is my GP is not too interested about it and so far her only advice was to go on the birth control pill. So how have your doctors been, do they sympathise, what tests do they do? Mine has done a blood test, FSH. The last one I had 6 months ago and the GP said I wasn't menopausal, and I've had another one today.
I've cut down on caffeine, eat healthily, exercise and try and make time to relax. But, the lows are getting very hard to deal with, and I don't know what else I can do to help myself. Any suggestions?
The thing is my GP is not too interested about it and so far her only advice was to go on the birth control pill. So how have your doctors been, do they sympathise, what tests do they do? Mine has done a blood test, FSH. The last one I had 6 months ago and the GP said I wasn't menopausal, and I've had another one today.
I've cut down on caffeine, eat healthily, exercise and try and make time to relax. But, the lows are getting very hard to deal with, and I don't know what else I can do to help myself. Any suggestions?
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Wow I would get a new gyn. Mine was very helpful and offered several different options. Explained a lot to me of how it all works. He didn't recommend any tests because he could see what he needed to know by my exam and talking with me. I wasn't in meno pause either but do still have the mood swings and ups and downs. He recommended a small dose of lexipro to help me take off the edge. I also have some nights where I can't sleep and get the sweats which I guess I have to admit are hot flashes lol. The Lexipro helps that. I don't have to take it all month, I can start is like 2 weeks before my period. The only problem I have with it is I get a killer headache the first two days or so. So I started cutting mine into 4ths and I take a 4th and it works. He also suggested birth control as an alternative and I didn't want to do that.
I thought he was crazy to prescribe this like this for me at first. But after doing some other internet research on it and trying it by taking a 4th about 2 weeks before my period - it has helped. I sleep like a baby and don't wake up in the middle of the night. I have more energy in the daytime and it helps me stay focused. That's just my experience.
I would definitely find a dr that I felt was listening to my concerns though.0 -
How long have you been with this doctor? I am 46 and have had perimenopause symptoms since my mid-30's. I have switched gyno's 3 times over the last ten years. I have not had good luck with GP's doing anything to help. They have tested my thyroid, etc. Basically telling me that this is life and you have to get through it and deal with it! Finally went to a naturopath for help, but that is scary because you don't really know if what they are doing is effective. Depending on what your doctor is familiar with they will recommend different options. My main issues were - night sweats and chills, heavy periods, miscarriages, fibroids, weight gain and backache - along with emotional ups/downs.
The things I have tried are these:
Fibroid surgery
Mirena - IUD, took it out after a year due to increased moodiness and backache
Novasure Ablation - didn't work because of the shape of my uterus
Bioidentical Hormone replacement - Estrogen and Progesterone creams
Acupunture
Yoga
Diet and exercise
Now my doc says I have a cyst on my right ovary that is growing rapidly, from 1 centimeter in February to 3.5 centimeters in September. She wants me to go on Birth Control for 2 months (to suppress my ovarian activity) and then have another ultrasound to see if it has receded - always something!!!
I haven't heard of Lexipro - off to research that one! I also have trouble sleeping on and off. Wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back to sleep. Stressed out about work and the family, generally grumpy and impatient. An all around joy to be around. :laugh:0 -
Lexipro is used primarily for depression. It has been found to allieviate hot flashes and night sweats in low doses. And as my dr. explained to me it helps with the anxiety and mood swings that comes with meno pause too. Along with helping the anxiety and mood swings it helps with weight loss. Because the biggest reason for our weight gain in the middle at our age is the stress factor.
Google - Lexipro for menopause and you'll come up with a bunch of research done on it. I am not one for taking pills and really fought against even after my dr. prescribed it. Since then I have talked to several women who have taken during menopause and all have had good results and one even lost quite a bit of weight on it because she was sleeping at night, had more energy and was just overall less stressed. She was the one who encouraged me to try it again but only take a 4th instead of 1/2 or a whole. Each person is different. So I thought why not and so far so good. Its only been about 2 weeks since I restarted it so we'll see on the weight loss side.
Also, I typically drink quite a bit of wine in the evenings - from 1 to 2 glasses to sometimes almost the whole bottle (yea I couldn't believe I was drinking that much). Well taking the Lexipro I don't drink at all. One, I don't like mixing alcohol with any pills, and I don't really feel the urge to drink. So that alone is cutting my calorie count down.0 -
My GP has never agreed to refer me see a gynacologist. In the UK unless a GP refers you you can't go to a specialist, unless you pay to go private which I can't afford.
I've had depression before (a good few years ago now) and spent a year on anti-depressants which made me suicidal at times and have since been withdrawn from use because of this side effect. Needless to say I'm VERY reluctant to take any anti-d medication.
I don't have heavy periods now. They did get very heavy for a few months, along with starting with no warning signs and flooding for the first 24 hours (that was great fun :grumble: ) but although very irregular they are now back to being fairly light. I seem to get tender boobs at any time of the cycle, random cramps and the mood swings aren't following any particular pattern either...so obviously I'm wondering what the hell is going on.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into the creams etc.0 -
My female GP gave me the worst possible advice when I went to see her about 5 years ago with various peri-menopausal symptoms. She wouldn't prescribe HRT, which I wsn't that keen on anyway. She told me to try herbal remedies and not to worry about gaining weight because "there's nothing you can do about it".
So I took her advice.......
I tried various herbal things but they didn't do anything for my main problem of night sweats
........ and I stopped worrying about the weight which just kept piling on. I found this site by accident two years ago and haven't look back since.0 -
My doctor is also not interested, always feel rushed and not great advice! I've had most of the symptoms mentioned here, especially the mood swings, irregular periods and sleepless nights. I recently went to the local health food store and talked to a very helpful lady there. She said about taking a vitamin/tablet for PMS as I'm not really ready for full on HRT. So with that and eating healthier I'll give it a go.0
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I am 43 and had to have a complete hysterectomy this past year, so I went into a medical menopause. My OBGYN does not want to do HRT because of my age and it could promote breast cancer. So, I am taking Effexor, which is an anxiety pill, but many menopausal woman take it for the mood swings and hot flashes. It took about a month to start working but it does the trick. I also take Black Cohosh which you can buy in the vitamin section and it helps with moods and sweats but it also takes a couple of weeks to kick in. I also watch my sodium and try to get enough sleep at night. I hate it when doctors do not listen to what your feeling and disregard. Good luck to you.0
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lscheun - Thanks for the info and I wish you the best of luck coping without HRT, my Mum had a hysterectomy in her mid 40s and it was hard going even with HRT, although obviously medical knowledge has moved on since then. I will try the Black Cohosh when I can find some, our local shop didn't have it so I'll have to look online.
To try and avoid SSRIs and SNRIs (the Anti-Ds I'm concerned about which includes Lexipro and Effexor), I've increased my vitamin intake and I'm now taking 5-HTP a 'natural' anti-d. I'll let you all know how that goes. This is what I'm taking if it is of help to anyone else.
http://www.totallynourish.com/patrick-holford-optimum-nutrition-pack/en?#productAnchor
http://www.totallynourish.com/biocare-5-htp-50mg-60-caps/en?#productAnchor
Also, blood results tomorrow, so will see if the GP has anything else to offer.0 -
I will try the Black Cohosh when I can find some, our local shop didn't have it so I'll have to look online.
I tried that for a while (with Sage), I think it helped a bit. You should be able to get it from most good herbal products stockist. You might even try Boots or Tesco as I have seen it there.0 -
Update: Finally got to speak to a slightly more understanding GP, still no referral though :-(
She has put me on the birth control pill (progesterone only) to see if that evens out my moods, started it today so will see if it helps.
I'll try anything before resorting to anti-depressants, they just make me a zombie from previous experience and I want my life back.0 -
I think birth control is a good alternative. Its been around forever and very minimum side effects. It does seem to help a lot people with symptons. Good luck I hope you get some relief!0
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I never wanted to go on HRT, so I stayed away from Rx medication as I went into menopause. I did get good results for the mood swings and hot flashes with Black Cohosh and Soy Isoflavones. One warning I saw for the Black Cohosh is you should take a break from it about every 6 months or so.0
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Update: Finally got to speak to a slightly more understanding GP, still no referral though :-(
She has put me on the birth control pill (progesterone only) to see if that evens out my moods, started it today so will see if it helps.
I'll try anything before resorting to anti-depressants, they just make me a zombie from previous experience and I want my life back.
Best of luck!0 -
The right BC pill can do wonders for keeping all sorts of hormonal madness at bay, and it reduces your chances of developing ovarian cancer. You have many choices.0
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I am 41 and have been having a lot of the menopausal symptoms for a couple yrs now. I would say i noticed it about 38 and as time went on it became more and more noticeable. A couple yrs ago i quit smoking and started on low dose BCP. Now i hardly notice most of the signs. Still get a bit moody and sleep isn't perfect but it is all doable. Periods have been EXTREMELY light and almost non existent. But the last couple months they have been a bit off. I never used to stress over things and have always been a calm person, but the last yr or so i have had a hard time dealing with that same stress ,and i am more on edge than i have even been. Some of the treatments you all have mentioned might be in my future. It's great to have other avenues to look into.0
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I went to the health food store and purchased high-potency B-complex, 400 mg magnesium and a sub-lingual 500 mcg B-12. Taking these in combination helped a lot with the anxiety and depression, especially the B12. Make sure it is sub-lingual (goes under the tongue) as stomach acid destroys B12.
Another thing that helped was Iron. I had some testing done with an Osteopathic doctor that showed I was iron deficient. You might have your GP test your iron levels to see if you are anemic.
Overall find ways to simplify your life and relieve stress. If you're in a high-stress job, find a low-stress job. Cut lifestyle choices down until bills are easily manageable and you can have some savings. Try to refuse to participate in stress heaped on you by other people. Above all get plenty of sleep.
If you are still having depression or it worsens, as your GP for a referral to a Psychiatrist for the depressive symptoms. If he feels a referral to another specialist is in order, you may get one. Otherwise, maybe the Psychiatrist -- who is also an MD -- will prescribe something to help you with the depression.
It is very helpful to attempt to balance your hormones, but it is often not covered by insurance and can be costly. If you can't afford to go see a specialist on your own, you wouldn't be able to afford the practitioner, testing and hormones for balancing yours with bio-identical hormones either. You might check into the cost and save up for it though.0 -
Going on the pill, as the least intrusive treatment there is, is a reasonable place to start. Your GP doesn't sound bad. It's less likely to make you grow a beard than Depo Provera.0