Careful--"Eat More" is a relative term
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I will happily forgo the portion of my calves that refuses to be zipped into a boot to you girls!
I have some extra thigh girth as well....any takers???:happy:
And @ tigerblue--the main forums are chock-full-o-peeps that will give blind advice not applicable to you, or most of us. And bad advice to boot! What we should support is women of all sizes doing the homework to figure out what they should be eating according to their daily activity--and throwing assumptions of 1200 & 2400 out of the window. And in this group--this is exactly what we do.
Taking inspiration from people that work hard, and beyond limitations? I will take that any day!
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I will happily forgo the portion of my calves that refuses to be zipped into a boot to you girls! I have some extra thigh girth as well....any takers???:happy:
Yes please!!! Even in heels I have virtually no calf muscle. Guess it matches my lack of (.)(.) LOL0 -
I would be happy to donate both to you CanGirl if I could!!! 0
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I understand the point you are trying to make. I am 5'3.5, currently weigh 119 pounds and (according to heybale's incredibly useful spreadsheet) am at 19.28% BF. My sedentary TDEE is 1750. If I exercise regularly, I can probably bump it a couple hundred more. The point is, I would need to have an incredibly physically taxing job and do regular intense workouts to be able to safely crest 2200+ calories a day.
I found heybale's spreadsheet to be incredibly eye-opening in its honesty. He helped me in the past when parts of it weren't making sense for my situation and the numbers have never been high.0 -
I understand the point you are trying to make. I am 5'3.5, currently weigh 119 pounds and (according to heybale's incredibly useful spreadsheet) am at 19.28% BF. My sedentary TDEE is 1750. If I exercise regularly, I can probably bump it a couple hundred more. The point is, I would need to have an incredibly physically taxing job and do regular intense workouts to be able to safely crest 2200+ calories a day.
I found heybale's spreadsheet to be incredibly eye-opening in its honesty. He helped me in the past when parts of it weren't making sense for my situation and the numbers have never been high.
Yes although I struggled with it at first, I have found it to be the most accurate estimation available. My results actually back it up.
I struggled both ways. On the one hand, I couldnt believe that my TDEE could be around 1750 (unfortunately, that is moderately active for me). That seemed too high at the time. And at the same time, when I took the % cut that was recommended, I felt chetaed, because I wanted the number to be higher! I know that is not logical, but that is exactly how I felt.
So I bounced all around for several months, hence the weight gain.
Really, it is funny, because TDEE -15% for me actually comes very close to 1200 cals plus exercise. I think that is why I get so put out at the "dont use 1200" posts.0 -
That is a neat method of using the spreadsheet too, estimating what you would need to do to keep an eating level you like.
I've had several mention during reset they really enjoyed their level of food, which was of course exercise TDEE level.
But then with the deficit, found it very difficult to eat less. And not just because of say lifting and the body was hungry to make improvements, but just that they got used to a certain level of eating and enjoying certain foods.
So they experimented with what could be added to get their TDEG up to prior or close to TDEE level, to eat close to where they were at.
You start to find out it takes an awful lot of walking 3-4 mph to increase TDEE, or perhaps too much high cardio then you have time for.
But at least lets you see what you would have to do to increase it. I helped experiment with someone, perhaps you Tiger, and opened my eyes as to why I probably see so many petite women runners. You just got to add on so much to give yourself a fun level of eating. Or practice the intermittent fasting and shove most the calories in to dinner.
I feel for. Every winter doing mainly lifting and little cardio. It's like, where did the food go, I have to put this egg-nog back. 1/2 cup, yeah right!0 -
That is a neat method of using the spreadsheet too, estimating what you would need to do to keep an eating level you like.
I've had several mention during reset they really enjoyed their level of food, which was of course exercise TDEE level.
But then with the deficit, found it very difficult to eat less. And not just because of say lifting and the body was hungry to make improvements, but just that they got used to a certain level of eating and enjoying certain foods.
So they experimented with what could be added to get their TDEG up to prior or close to TDEE level, to eat close to where they were at.
You start to find out it takes an awful lot of walking 3-4 mph to increase TDEE, or perhaps too much high cardio then you have time for.
But at least lets you see what you would have to do to increase it. I helped experiment with someone, perhaps you Tiger, and opened my eyes as to why I probably see so many petite women runners. You just got to add on so much to give yourself a fun level of eating. Or practice the intermittent fasting and shove most the calories in to dinner.
I feel for. Every winter doing mainly lifting and little cardio. It's like, where did the food go, I have to put this egg-nog back. 1/2 cup, yeah right!
You`ve got it! I have to "save" calories for date night so I can have a glass of wine. Or a MARGARITA!!
And that probably IS why you see lots of petite women runners. Also because it is something that we more naturally can be good at. After all, we dont have nearly as much mass to move through space! That gives us an advantage. And just because we are small doesnt mean we dont have a LARGE competitive spirit! I could never get into playing ball of any kind because the larger people shoved me out of the way. I still have a hard time understanding why people get so worked up about a ball game! (and I get to watch plenty of them--I live in a "man cave" as the only female in the house!) But I love running and trying to improve either my time or my length of run. Mostly I am just thankful to have an exercise activity that I like. Now if I could just like lifting weights. . . .0 -
But I love running and trying to improve either my time or my length of run. Mostly I am just thankful to have an exercise activity that I like. Now if I could just like lifting weights. . . .
Ohhhh, just think how much it could help your running!
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I completed Heybales' spreadsheet again (did so a year ago) and the numbers are the same...TDEE is about 2050. TDEG is 1726. BMR is 1300. My weekly Fitbit daily average is just over 2,000 cal/day. Pretty accurate I'd say! Finally got under 130 again for the first time in about 6 months. Feels good and there's a lot less bloat/tummy!0
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I completed Heybales' spreadsheet again (did so a year ago) and the numbers are the same...TDEE is about 2050. TDEG is 1726. BMR is 1300. My weekly Fitbit daily average is just over 2,000 cal/day. Pretty accurate I'd say! Finally got under 130 again for the first time in about 6 months. Feels good and there's a lot less bloat/tummy!
Sounds like you maintained LBM and muscle mass, great job doing that.0 -
Great conversation. Bumping to read again! Wow! Y'all are smarter than me!!0
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I am pleased to report that I have lost 1.6 lbs since August 2! I have averaged 1450-1600 calories (gross) a day. I have been alternating running and circuit training that combines weights with some cardio. I have been pretty consistent with all of this (minus the week lost to the stomach flu--didnt eat much at all, and then ate like crazy while my body made up for it! And I felt so rotten that I could not work out for nearly a week!). I upped my protein and dropped my carbs a bit (I am trying to keep the carbs under 150 most days, and always under 200--nothing drastic). My entire family is trying to eat cleaner. The bodyfat measurement on my scale has gone down a percentage point (I never really take the number at face value, but it does seem to read fairly consistently from day to day, so I am hoping it is accurate at showing changes). My clothes seem to fit a bit better (I was able to get into a pair of my size 2`s today!), and someone commented today that I looked like I had lost a lot of weight! Really, truly it is only 1.6 lbs, but it must be coming off in the right places!.
This is really slow progress--about 0.5 lbs per month--but I am thrilled. This is the first time I have seen consistent downward movement in over a year. And if my size and shape continue to change, I may not need to lose all 9 lbs that I thought I wanted to lose. That would be good too!
Heybales, I tried to paste your link into my web browser, but it said the server could not be found. I would love to read it. . . . .0 -
I am pleased to report that I have lost 1.6 lbs since August 2! I have averaged 1450-1600 calories (gross) a day. I have been alternating running and circuit training that combines weights with some cardio. I have been pretty consistent with all of this (minus the week lost to the stomach flu--didnt eat much at all, and then ate like crazy while my body made up for it! And I felt so rotten that I could not work out for nearly a week!). I upped my protein and dropped my carbs a bit (I am trying to keep the carbs under 150 most days, and always under 200--nothing drastic). My entire family is trying to eat cleaner. The bodyfat measurement on my scale has gone down a percentage point (I never really take the number at face value, but it does seem to read fairly consistently from day to day, so I am hoping it is accurate at showing changes). My clothes seem to fit a bit better (I was able to get into a pair of my size 2`s today!), and someone commented today that I looked like I had lost a lot of weight! Really, truly it is only 1.6 lbs, but it must be coming off in the right places!.
This is really slow progress--about 0.5 lbs per month--but I am thrilled. This is the first time I have seen consistent downward movement in over a year. And if my size and shape continue to change, I may not need to lose all 9 lbs that I thought I wanted to lose. That would be good too!
Heybales, I tried to paste your link into my web browser, but it said the server could not be found. I would love to read it. . . . .
Congrats.
Hard fought battle there, not only in doing what you needed to do, but wondering why you couldn't do what others do.
I'm sure you have lost more fat too, though it really packs a volume per lb.
That link, it is messed up.
You have to highlight what you can see, and then use the shift key pressed down and right-arrow over a few more characters that got chopped off. URL was too long.
Putting it here again. Yep, too long with no spaces to cut between lines. What I said above.
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