Jumprope 10 times for 1 min ea over the course of a workout
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I never said it was working "so well". But it has worked. As you are labeling my workouts as "goofy". If I can make it better via better information, I'll do it. Hence the question. If the significance is great, I'll have to adjust. Simple as that
I actually want to know WHY you think it's goofy since you mention it.
1 calorie diff doesn't make a diff. But 3-4 calories per min would. Hence the questions.
Why is merely asking if 1 min jump rope intervals different than jump rope constantly have a significant calorie burn "goofy"? As said, over time, it is significant.
I think it's not the jump rope part by itself, but the report on what the full workout is that includes it, and what you are trying to obtain with it included, and your stated goals.
For those that have been reaching for your same stated goals (not the workout, the end result), and what can be read from reputable folks - your routine is a far cry from efficient use of time.
You ever compared how much you could lift if you did NOT have the attempt to keep your HR up during the rest time?
Guess what happens if you get to almost failure on the lifts because you overloaded the muscle with heavy weight, not because the muscle was just worn out from all that use?0 -
I think it's not the jump rope part by itself, but the report on what the full workout is that includes it, and what you are trying to obtain with it included, and your stated goals.
Fair enoughFor those that have been reaching for your same stated goals (not the workout, the end result), and what can be read from reputable folks - your routine is a far cry from efficient use of time.
What would be a more efficient use of time? I lift weights 3 times a week and only have about 60 min to accomplish what I need to lift. That won't happen if I don't superset. It's either superset or don't perform certain lifts. And often times, I'll cardio after time permitting. But often times, there isn't time. Doing 1 lift, waiting, then doing another set, waiting etc.. takes waay too much time for meYou ever compared how much you could lift if you did NOT have the attempt to keep your HR up during the rest time?
Yep. I purposely did all of one lift before doing the supersets to see what happens. I bit stronger for sure. But getting strongER and trying to achieve ultimate strength are different.Guess what happens if you get to almost failure on the lifts because you overloaded the muscle with heavy weight, not because the muscle was just worn out from all that use?
No need to guess. But I try to use DIFF muscle groups in order to minimize that effect. Yes, there are some muscle use overlap as compound movements entail using many muscles.
There's no illusions about how my workouts might effect a max strength effort on any given day. I'm not stating this is the BEST way to achieve max strength.
I was merely asking about the jump rope question. The work outs are to clarify the issue of heart rate during the workout. As it seemed to be related to how many calories burned doing a series of 1 min rope session vs 10 min all at once0 -
Do you think it might be worth doing 5 minutes of skipping before you lift weights and then 5 minutes of skipping after you finish lifting weights? That might help you focus more on your goal of gaining strength.
There are plenty of good weight lifting programs out there that take about 60 minutes or less to complete and they include rest between sets.
The original question though, doing 10 x 1 minute skips will not equal 10 minutes straight skipping in calories burned, but does it really matter if your goal is to gain strength?0 -
Thanks. But other goals include fat loss, endurance speed etc. but you make a good point about doing 5 min before and after.0
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Thanks. But other goals include fat loss, endurance speed etc. but you make a good point about doing 5 min before and after.
Ah ok, I must have missed that in the thread, I thought you were after strength gains.
Freeletics looks like it would be good for those types of goals, I have never done it, only watched some youtube videos, but it might be worth checking out if you haven't heard of it.0 -
As I said before, the calorie burn of 1 min x 10 is not the same as 10 mins in one go.
No-one can answer anything more specific than that. There are far too many variables.
I would suggest that skipping between supersets is not an effective use of your time at the gym.0 -
As I said before, the calorie burn of 1 min x 10 is not the same as 10 mins in one go.
No-one can answer anything more specific than that. There are far too many variables.
I would suggest that skipping between supersets is not an effective use of your time at the gym.
Thing is, I'll just sit around while I recover. Might as well do something right? You just sit and rest in between sets? I can do upwards of 27 sets of various exercises in around an hour.0 -
As I said before, the calorie burn of 1 min x 10 is not the same as 10 mins in one go.
No-one can answer anything more specific than that. There are far too many variables.
I would suggest that skipping between supersets is not an effective use of your time at the gym.
Thing is, I'll just sit around while I recover. Might as well do something right? You just sit and rest in between sets? I can do upwards of 27 sets of various exercises in around an hour.
Yes, I just sit (or stretch if I remember...or make coffee...and occasionally eat ice cream) - as I like to recover properly. I use my strength sessions to lift and not for their calorie burn, especially if it's doing something will negatively impact my lifting performance.0 -
As I said before, the calorie burn of 1 min x 10 is not the same as 10 mins in one go.
No-one can answer anything more specific than that. There are far too many variables.
I would suggest that skipping between supersets is not an effective use of your time at the gym.
Thing is, I'll just sit around while I recover. Might as well do something right? You just sit and rest in between sets? I can do upwards of 27 sets of various exercises in around an hour.
Yes, I just sit (or stretch if I remember...or make coffee...and occasionally eat ice cream) - as I like to recover properly. I use my strength sessions to lift and not for their calorie burn, especially if it's doing something will negatively impact my lifting performance.
Since strength is only one of many goals, I choose to superset and triple set so I can get all my lifts in. I don't know how my strength is affected and I don't have illusions about it not affecting any given lift on any given day. But I can tell you that my strength has improved throughout the years.
Question is what is a better use of my time? I'm there to workout, not to make coffee or eat. Problem is this. It's either get my lifts in this way or I won't get some of my accessory lifts in. That might also negatively affect my strength on my main lifts. Or I'd have to take another day to lift and sacrifice a day for cardio.
Oddly enough. It's my strength that's improved. It's my body fat reduction that has stalled. Illmjustnassume when you mean 1 min sessions are different, you mean it burns less calories. Just can't quantify how much. It's odd that that this site doesn't differentiate for calories burnt for jump rope. 1 min for 10 sessions is about the same as one 10 min session.0 -
I have given you the best answer I can (as have others). You asked me whether I sit...I answered - no need for snark about what you are there to do, as if I am there not to lift (which btw - 'there' for me is my house).
The reason that there is no answer is that you have not provided (and most likely will never be able to provide) the necessary information. What is the intensity of each of those 1 minute skips v the 10 minute one is one of the major variables.. Also, there is the indirect impact (think of it as opportunity cost) of any negative impact on your workout as a whole - so you need to look at the session as a total. Until you can quantify all of those, mentally masturbating over it is pointless.0 -
This just sounds goofy as hell.
What does?
Specifically this whole thread but in general a lot of the stuff you post.
Have no idea why. Are my workouts that much different than yours?
The question about the jump rope is pretty simple.
My workouts vs goals might seem goofy to you. No question there. But I do have the benefit of observing what has happened over the course of nearly 4 years of doing supersets. 20 lbs weight loss and gains in strength. I'll take that.
Ok.
If it's been working so well for the past four years just rock on with what you've been doing. What difference does it make whether it burns 13 calories per minute or 14 calories per minute? It's working. You've been getting the results you want. Keep on with it. No need to put up confusing goofy threads.
I never said it was working "so well". But it has worked. As you are labeling my workouts as "goofy". If I can make it better via better information, I'll do it. Hence the question. If the significance is great, I'll have to adjust. Simple as that
I actually want to know WHY you think it's goofy since you mention it.
1 calorie diff doesn't make a diff. But 3-4 calories per min would. Hence the questions.
Why is merely asking if 1 min jump rope intervals different than jump rope constantly have a significant calorie burn "goofy"? As said, over time, it is significant.
It depends more on the length of the rope, the weight and frequency of skips.
Assuming a arc equation of mass moving in a 1.5 m circle with a point mass of 250g and a frequency of 2 Hz is going to be twice the burn than a frequency of 1 Hz.
You got this, the calcs are basic.0 -
No, that wasn't your question. Your question was what's the difference in calorie burn.Question is what is a better use of my time? I'm there to workout, not to make coffee or eat. Problem is this. It's either get my lifts in this way or I won't get some of my accessory lifts in. That might also negatively affect my strength on my main lifts. Or I'd have to take another day to lift and sacrifice a day for cardio.
If you're asking if it's a valid use of your time, sure. A little metcon isn't a bad thing.
Then do more metcon and eat less.Since strength is only one of many goals, I choose to superset and triple set so I can get all my lifts in. I don't know how my strength is affected and I don't have illusions about it not affecting any given lift on any given day. But I can tell you that my strength has improved throughout the years.
Oddly enough. It's my strength that's improved. It's my body fat reduction that has stalled.
That's because it's an estimate, not an exact measure. The difference is insignificant next to the inherent inaccuracy of the estimation.Illmjustnassume when you mean 1 min sessions are different, you mean it burns less calories. Just can't quantify how much. It's odd that that this site doesn't differentiate for calories burnt for jump rope. 1 min for 10 sessions is about the same as one 10 min session.0 -
I forgot to ask, what's your total?0
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I forgot to ask, what's your total?
I like the blueberry pomegranate. Because superfoods!
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You do cardio on non-lifting days, but you need to add cardio to your lifting routine as supersets because...?
If your weightloss is stalling you're eating too many calories.0 -
No, that wasn't your question. Your question was what's the difference in calorie burn.
If you're asking if it's a valid use of your time, sure. A little metcon isn't a bad thing.
Correct. And the reply was it's different. But no one is saying it's burns LESS or MORE. If one knows it's different, then one should be at least be able to state it generally burns more or less.
And it was two of you that said it wasn't a good use of time so I asked her what is a better use of me time. She hadn't elected to quantify as ou did here.Then do more metcon and eat less.
PerhapsThat's because it's an estimate, not an exact measure. The difference is insignificant next to the inherent inaccuracy of the estimation.
You said that already. But as said above, if one can it's different, then one should be able to state if it burns more or less w/o giving a specific number0 -
I forgot to ask, what's your total?
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No, that wasn't your question. Your question was what's the difference in calorie burn.
If you're asking if it's a valid use of your time, sure. A little metcon isn't a bad thing.
Correct. And the reply was it's different. But no one is saying it's burns LESS or MORE. If one knows it's different, then one should be at least be able to state it generally burns more or less.
And it was two of you that said it wasn't a good use of time so I asked her what is a better use of me time. She hadn't elected to quantify as ou did here.Then do more metcon and eat less.
PerhapsThat's because it's an estimate, not an exact measure. The difference is insignificant next to the inherent inaccuracy of the estimation.
You said that already. But as said above, if one can it's different, then one should be able to state if it burns more or less w/o giving a specific number
It burns less to do it one minute at a time versus 10 minutes all at once. But since it's only ten freakin minutes in the first place the difference in calorie burn is inconsequential. This is pretty much common sense which is why no one thought they needed to spell it out for you. I imagine no one will mistake you for having it in the future.0 -
10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?0
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10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?
It's 10 minutes in the course of a workout you're already doing. No. It's not significant in that context. I ran for ten minutes in the warm up and cool down for my "actual run" this morning. I didn't count the calories in those two activities. I don't care. I also didn't count the calories I burned taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Nor did I count the calories I burned scratching my *kitten* the day I fell into poison ivy.
Figure out what you're doing in your workout as a whole rather than focusing on every infinitessimal detail of it individually.0 -
:laugh:I forgot to ask, what's your total?
I like the blueberry pomegranate. Because superfoods!0 -
10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?
No, it's what you've been trying to see the difference between.
10 min solid vs 10 x 1 min. That difference is insignificant.
The solid will burn more if you keep the pace (frequency) the same and the height jumped the same. But what, 20 calories?
Because the 1 min method will include some getting up to speed and coming down in speed, burning few calories less.
But if the 10 min solid causes you to tire out and slow down, then that doesn't burn as much.
Or perhaps the 1 min method causes you to do it even faster.
Regarding the good use of your time - you seem to perhaps not know why the rest is useful.
Same reason there applies to same reason on day after day workouts.
Would you do the exact same workout day after day, working the same muscles, and expect as good a benefit from it as having a rest day between?
Why?
That same reason applies to the rest between sets on a high level.
If you aren't aware of how rest is a useful part of the workout, need to do some research.
Because actually, it's the rest that even allows the effort to make changes.
Your body can indeed make some changes without it, especially coming back or starting out, but you'll plateau faster.
Just as spikes in cortisol is beneficial, but elevated all the time from stress is not, your workout is probably just one big stress on your body.
If 60 min isn't giving you enough time to get everything in, then everything sounds like too much, or doing too many sets.
As mentioned, metcon is a valid workout, you can make some strength gains from it, but not nearly what you could gain doing a real lifting workout, if strength and size is your goal.
Did you get to read those 2 links to Lyle's site given in my prior post? See the difference, the recommendations, and the why.
Or because you power lifted before, you got this all down and there is nothing more to learn.0 -
10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?
It's 10 minutes in the course of a workout you're already doing. No. It's not significant in that context. I ran for ten minutes in the warm up and cool down for my "actual run" this morning. I didn't count the calories in those two activities. I don't care. I also didn't count the calories I burned taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Nor did I count the calories I burned scratching my *kitten* the day I fell into poison ivy.
Figure out what you're doing in your workout as a whole rather than focusing on every infinitessimal detail of it individually.
It's significant to me 128 calories = 384 calories during the course of a week. On top of the workout I'm doing.
How many calories does scratching your snarky *kitten* burn? haha0 -
Then do more metcon and eat less.
I looked at one of the metcon workouts. It was push ups, pull ups and shuttle runs. set of 10, 9,8 etc.. down to one. That's 55 reps for each exercise.
One of my workouts is bench 4 sets of 10, pull ups 4 sets of 10 and then jump rope for 1 min. Basically 40 sets per exercise. I'm not sure that metcon workout is that much different than what I do. At least for that specific example. IMHO0 -
10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?
No, it's what you've been trying to see the difference between.
10 min solid vs 10 x 1 min. That difference is insignificant.
The solid will burn more if you keep the pace (frequency) the same and the height jumped the same. But what, 20 calories?
Because the 1 min method will include some getting up to speed and coming down in speed, burning few calories less.
But if the 10 min solid causes you to tire out and slow down, then that doesn't burn as much.
Or perhaps the 1 min method causes you to do it even faster.
Regarding the good use of your time - you seem to perhaps not know why the rest is useful.
Same reason there applies to same reason on day after day workouts.
Would you do the exact same workout day after day, working the same muscles, and expect as good a benefit from it as having a rest day between?
Why?
That same reason applies to the rest between sets on a high level.
If you aren't aware of how rest is a useful part of the workout, need to do some research.
Because actually, it's the rest that even allows the effort to make changes.
Your body can indeed make some changes without it, especially coming back or starting out, but you'll plateau faster.
Just as spikes in cortisol is beneficial, but elevated all the time from stress is not, your workout is probably just one big stress on your body.
If 60 min isn't giving you enough time to get everything in, then everything sounds like too much, or doing too many sets.
As mentioned, metcon is a valid workout, you can make some strength gains from it, but not nearly what you could gain doing a real lifting workout, if strength and size is your goal.
Did you get to read those 2 links to Lyle's site given in my prior post? See the difference, the recommendations, and the why.
Or because you power lifted before, you got this all down and there is nothing more to learn.
Thanks. I know my workouts might not be optimal. It is what it is. I rest my particular muscle group inbetween sets but I'm not resting inbetween sets. Once my triple set is done, then I'll take a short break and do it over again.
I do not do the same workout every day.
Metcon seems like a lot of body weight exercises done right after each other. I think it's a great cardio type workout but I don't think I'd benefit strength wise if I substituted that with my free weight workouts. I do some bodyweight exercises as part of my supersets.
As far as being tired, my heart rate might be slightly elevated when I get back to the main 1st lift, but my muscles are ready to go.0 -
Then do more metcon and eat less.
I looked at one of the metcon workouts. It was push ups, pull ups and shuttle runs. set of 10, 9,8 etc.. down to one. That's 55 reps for each exercise.
One of my workouts is bench 4 sets of 10, pull ups 4 sets of 10 and then jump rope for 1 min. Basically 40 sets per exercise. I'm not sure that metcon workout is that much different than what I do. At least for that specific example. IMHO
Good! Go do it!0 -
10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?
It's 10 minutes in the course of a workout you're already doing. No. It's not significant in that context. I ran for ten minutes in the warm up and cool down for my "actual run" this morning. I didn't count the calories in those two activities. I don't care. I also didn't count the calories I burned taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Nor did I count the calories I burned scratching my *kitten* the day I fell into poison ivy.
Figure out what you're doing in your workout as a whole rather than focusing on every infinitessimal detail of it individually.
It's significant to me 128 calories = 384 calories during the course of a week. On top of the workout I'm doing.
How many calories does scratching your snarky *kitten* burn? haha
Reading comprehension fail. I said I don't count it.0 -
10 min = 128 calories. That's not significant? When does it become significant to you?
It's 10 minutes in the course of a workout you're already doing. No. It's not significant in that context. I ran for ten minutes in the warm up and cool down for my "actual run" this morning. I didn't count the calories in those two activities. I don't care. I also didn't count the calories I burned taking the stairs instead of the elevator. Nor did I count the calories I burned scratching my *kitten* the day I fell into poison ivy.
Figure out what you're doing in your workout as a whole rather than focusing on every infinitessimal detail of it individually.
It's significant to me 128 calories = 384 calories during the course of a week. On top of the workout I'm doing.
How many calories does scratching your snarky *kitten* burn? haha
Reading comprehension fail. I said I don't count it.
Actually I asked when DOES it become significant but I understand your need to get your snark on.0 -
Isn't it time for you to jump rope ten times or something?
ETA: The calorie burn from scratching my *kitten* never becomes significant.0 -
Isn't it time for you to jump rope ten times or something?
Isn't it time for you to jump into a poison ivy bush naked?
BTW. If you are running 10 miles, yes the 5-10 jog warm up isn't going to impact the calories.
But I estimate that the lifting sessions burn around 150 calories. If the 10 min of jump rope represents another 130 calories I consider that significant in the context of that workout.0
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