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So why did you choose this over NROLFW?
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I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?0 -
I done sl for 8 weeks, just enough to get me or of a plateau. lost 19 inches over that time frame. Boring as Crap though, so I'm in stage 3 of nrol4w. I am losing viseral body fat, and for so much stronger and I like the Mises and the book showed you exactly what to do. But either is up to you. I tell every one that it's a good thing to go sl first just to get the lifts down. G ood's luck0
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I have actually already done the NROLFW and absolutely loved it and had incredible results from it. I finished it in January, I changed my program and did really well for the next 4 months and then hit a wall. I am so close to maintenance just want those last few inches off and toning.
I am starting this as a new challenge to push those last few inches off that have been stuck for 2 months since I plateaued.0 -
I did the first stage of NROLFW.
Then, in the second stage, there was an exercise where you stand on one foot and lift dumbbells. I can not do it. I could not do even one set.
Plus, I detest lunges. Hate them with a burning passion and there are a lot of them in NR.
I know they're good for me, but they make my knees hurt something awful (like my kneecap is going to pop off).0 -
I did the first stage of NROLFW.
Then, in the second stage, there was an exercise where you stand on one foot and lift dumbbells. I can not do it. I could not do even one set.
Plus, I detest lunges. Hate them with a burning passion and there are a lot of them in NR.
I know they're good for me, but they make my knees hurt something awful (like my kneecap is going to pop off).
If your kneecap pops off, it's a sure sign they're not good for you! I have d1cky knees (hahaha, anybody who's Australian will giggle at that!) and can't do lunges. I love that!!0 -
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I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
The majority of the emails are just Mehdi boasting his 'inner circle" that is a paid membership group. I do not find them beneficial. I didn't read much of his manual and referred to Tameko's threads instead.0 -
I didn't choose one over the other. I did NROLFW first, and then did SL. I would recommend that you decide which one appeals to you most and go for it. You really cannot go wrong either way.
^ What she said. I started with a few phases of of NROLFW - liked the explanations/argument for lifting in the book and eventually found that I liked the simplicity of Stronglifts more.0 -
I did the first stage of NROLFW.
Then, in the second stage, there was an exercise where you stand on one foot and lift dumbbells. I can not do it. I could not do even one set.
Plus, I detest lunges. Hate them with a burning passion and there are a lot of them in NR.
I know they're good for me, but they make my knees hurt something awful (like my kneecap is going to pop off).
I do lunges with power 90, I actually don't mind them too much and between them and the squats my thighs have really started to ing up.
Of course the only weight in loved is my own...I may not like the so much if weights are involved.
I just picked up the nrol4w book. I'm excited to read it to gain some knowledge on lifting. I still think I will start with StrongLifts after our cruise...we embark tomorrow.
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because it's free. I want to get the Starting Strength book though.0
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It's free, it's simple and basic, and a lot of the women I admire used it, some switching from New Rules and like this better.0
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I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
No. Mehdi tends toward being a sexist, pompous *kitten*.0 -
I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
No. Mehdi tends toward being a sexist, pompous *kitten*.
Lovely! Nice arms, btw!0 -
I've done both. I started with NR because I lift at home, and didn't have all the equipment I needed. NR is pretty adaptable. It is also more roundabout than strong lifts/ starting strength, as far as progress and physique changes go (at least for me). I've seen much more progress since I switched.0
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I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
No, it's him trying to convince you to join his "inner circle". It's pretty expensive if I remember correctly.0 -
I've done both. I started with NR because I lift at home, and didn't have all the equipment I needed. NR is pretty adaptable. It is also more roundabout than strong lifts/ starting strength, as far as progress and physique changes go (at least for me). I've seen much more progress since I switched.
Since you switched to StrongLifts or nroflw?0 -
I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
No. Mehdi tends toward being a sexist, pompous *kitten*.
Agreed. It's a shame. Know he wants to develop this elitist hardman vibe for his group to make it aspirational, but he'd probably get more members if he was a bit more inclusive.0 -
I tried NROLFW first but found the workouts in later stages to be difficult and too long (as many have commented).
I did SL for 14-ish weeks and made incredible strength gains, but I began to plateau and was finding the 5x5 taking too long at higher weights due to the increased time needed for rest between sets.
I have switched to Wendler's 5/3/1 and LOVE it. Am on cycle 7 now. I think I could have done Madcow, but Wendler's seemed simpler to me and at 4:30 AM, simple is greatly appreciated!
Best of luck and enjoy your cruise!
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I like SL because I was new to heavy lifting and it seemed like a good basic start. Plus I liked I could easily track my reps, weight, and schedule on my iphone with the SL app0
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I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
No. Mehdi tends toward being a sexist, pompous *kitten*.
Agreed. It's a shame. Know he wants to develop this elitist hardman vibe for his group to make it aspirational, but he'd probably get more members if he was a bit more inclusive.
Actually decided to get off my bum and take the bull by the horns (as it were) - just emailed him! No idea whether he actually reads his emails or not. I was perfectly polite - just asked what he thought about his female followers. I hope I don't get blasted in his next email update, or simply ignored. Finger's crossed!0 -
I need to unsubscribe to Mehdi's emails like yesterday!
They aren't beneficial?
No. Mehdi tends toward being a sexist, pompous *kitten*.
Agreed. It's a shame. Know he wants to develop this elitist hardman vibe for his group to make it aspirational, but he'd probably get more members if he was a bit more inclusive.
Actually decided to get off my bum and take the bull by the horns (as it were) - just emailed him! No idea whether he actually reads his emails or not. I was perfectly polite - just asked what he thought about his female followers. I hope I don't get blasted in his next email update, or simply ignored. Finger's crossed!
I'd be curious to hear what he says.0 -
I started SL 4 weeks ago and although my progression is slow, I prefer it over NROLFW, which I read 3 weeks ago. There's a ton of good info but I couldn't see myself remembering to also carry a notebook and write all of that down and try to maneuver around the gym to various locations needed for the different exercises. It seemed complicated. But if I don't achieve my goals by the end of the summer, which would mean 12 weeks of SL, I'll switch to NROLFW.0
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Actually decided to get off my bum and take the bull by the horns (as it were) - just emailed him! No idea whether he actually reads his emails or not. I was perfectly polite - just asked what he thought about his female followers. I hope I don't get blasted in his next email update, or simply ignored. Finger's crossed!
I'd be interested in his response also.0 -
Just came across this old thread. Did Mehdi ever respond?
What programme all you ladies doing now? I'm one week into SL after doing two stages of nrol.0 -
Simplicity! :-)
THIS, FTW!0 -
I started with NROLFW and got to the second phase where you have to stand on one foot with the other behind you while lifting a barbell and decided I needed something less...complicated.
With SL, I don't have to have a book open the whole time to tell me what I'm doing.
Plus, I HATE lunges. 0 -
I did the first stage of NROLFW.
Then, in the second stage, there was an exercise where you stand on one foot and lift dumbbells. I can not do it. I could not do even one set.
Plus, I detest lunges. Hate them with a burning passion and there are a lot of them in NR.
I know they're good for me, but they make my knees hurt something awful (like my kneecap is going to pop off).
I stopped at the same stage you did, with the stand on one foot while lifting dumbbells....couldn't even do one.
I never had knee problems, but lunges started them. I just could not get everything aligned correctly to keep myself from hurting. I know what you mean about the feeling that the kneecap was going to pop off, that is EXACTLY what I felt.
I see some people doing them easily and others struggling with them, I really am starting to suspect that some people's knees are just different enough that they don't work the same way with that exercise, but I can squat clear to the ground fairly easily, which my lunge-loving friend has trouble with.
If your kneecap pops off, it's a sure sign they're not good for you! I have d1cky knees (hahaha, anybody who's Australian will giggle at that!) and can't do lunges. I love that!!0 -
I don't look at books or write down anything when I work out. Everything for me needs to be simple and straight to the point when it comes to fitness or I lose interest. NROLFW is challenging and great but 5x5 is simple enough to do at the gym in less than 20 mins.0
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Just came across this old thread.
What programme all you ladies doing now? I'm one week into SL after doing two stages of nrol.
I ended up doing 4 cycles of All Pro and then switched to StrongLifts.0
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