Advice/Comments? Thoughts about Bypass Surgery
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Hello all! My name is Mary. I am a 46 yr old mom to three teenage boys (15, 18, 19), and happily married. I am currently at 237 pounds. This is the most I have ever weighed in my life!! I have been a gestational surrogate four times, and carried and birthed 7 children (triplets, a singleton, twins, and a singletom) for others who could not carry their own. It was the most rewarding thing I have ever done, but even being pregnant with triplets I never weighed this much.
I cannot stand to look at myself in the mirror. I look ugly. I look fat. My face looks bloated to the point that my eyes look half closed. I cannot tell you how much I hate the way I look. And it's time for me to change that....
I have high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, high tryglicerides, fatty liver disease, and now a horrific case of plantar faciitis that I cannot get to go away. In January I started eating healthier and working out. I hired a personal trainer, and was doing an hour of cardio a day. I worked up to an hour on the elliptical and going 4 miles. And then, you got it, the heel pain became so excrutiating that I can no longer work out. I had to stop working out in March. I had lost a wonderful total of 14 lbs and felt freakin awesome!! Now I can't walk without severe pain....
I have since gained back everything that I had lost. My diet went to *kitten* again. I cannot continue like this.....I can't continue to hate myself.....so, I want to do gastric bypass.
My question is to all of those that have had it, please share with me your pros and cons, what you didn't expect, what surprised you, would you do it again? What to do with all that lose skin!
I go to my "informational session" next Tuesday. I am extremely excited about it and can't wait. Due to co-morbidity issues, my insurance will cover the surgery 80%.....will I have to pay the 20% up front before the surgery? Did you have to do the 6 months supervised diet? My plan has a 90 day requirement that can be done instead of the 6 month thing, and I am desperately hoping that I can do that instead.
Thank you all, and I look forward to getting to know you!
I cannot stand to look at myself in the mirror. I look ugly. I look fat. My face looks bloated to the point that my eyes look half closed. I cannot tell you how much I hate the way I look. And it's time for me to change that....
I have high blood pressure, fibromyalgia, high tryglicerides, fatty liver disease, and now a horrific case of plantar faciitis that I cannot get to go away. In January I started eating healthier and working out. I hired a personal trainer, and was doing an hour of cardio a day. I worked up to an hour on the elliptical and going 4 miles. And then, you got it, the heel pain became so excrutiating that I can no longer work out. I had to stop working out in March. I had lost a wonderful total of 14 lbs and felt freakin awesome!! Now I can't walk without severe pain....
I have since gained back everything that I had lost. My diet went to *kitten* again. I cannot continue like this.....I can't continue to hate myself.....so, I want to do gastric bypass.
My question is to all of those that have had it, please share with me your pros and cons, what you didn't expect, what surprised you, would you do it again? What to do with all that lose skin!
I go to my "informational session" next Tuesday. I am extremely excited about it and can't wait. Due to co-morbidity issues, my insurance will cover the surgery 80%.....will I have to pay the 20% up front before the surgery? Did you have to do the 6 months supervised diet? My plan has a 90 day requirement that can be done instead of the 6 month thing, and I am desperately hoping that I can do that instead.
Thank you all, and I look forward to getting to know you!
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I am almost 48 years old. When I was 42, I had gastric bypass surgery. Second only to adopting my kids, it was my best decision ever. Can't think of a single con. Weight loss surgery gave me my life back.
Here are my before/current pics (highest weight was 340, current weight around 140). I am 5'7" tall and generally wear a size 6.
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I am 45 and had gastric bypass surgery 20 months ago. My highest weight was 242--I am 5'5"" tall. I am a type I diabetic and have been since I was 15. Prior to surgery, I was using over 150 units of insulin thru the pump per day and my blood sugars were very uncontrolled. I had extremely high blood pressure, high cholesterol, sleep apnea, asthma, and was in the early stages of kidney failure. I also had a hiatal hernia. I couldn't walk from my house to my mailbox without being winded, needed a shopping cart to hold myself up in the grocery store. I could not clean my house. I couldn't get in and out of a bathtub, couldn't bend over to pick something up off the floor. There were far too many could nots!
I was told by my doctor that I "had reached the point of no return."
Gastric bypass surgery saved my life. I now weigh about 130, give or take a pound or two here or there. I wear mostly 6's, but some 8's, depending on brand. I don't have asthma or sleep apnea. My blood pressure and cholesterol are perfect. My insulin use is now about 25 units per day thru the pump and my diabetes is in excellent control.
Do I think I could have lost the weight on my own? I don't know, I like to think so because I was determined. I fought through 3 denials before I was approved and had already began losing on my own. When my approval came, I went ahead and did it because I had another issue that had to be taken care of also.
I have no regrets. After nearly two years, I do enjoy a treat now and again and am not ashamed. I lost all my weight in 9 months and have maintained easily.
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I was 52 when I had surgery, RNY. It was the best thing I ever did. I'm no longer diabetic, blood pressure is low, cholesterol is low. Everything is so much better. I walk a lot and am active, but I do no formal exercise. Weight loss is all about eating, not exercise. I have some loose skin, but don't care. A little loose skin is far, far better than hauling around almost 300 extra pounds.0
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WOW!! You all are so amazing and give me hope!!! My Dr thinks I meet all of the co-morbidity requirements, so I am hoping there are no delays. I am going to hate the either 3 or 6 months diet portion because I really want to get this done NOW. I am a huge sweets eater, and I know that I will not be able to do that again in the future. While I will miss it, I know that not being able to have sweets is one part of the process that will make surgery successful! I know that the first three days after surgery will be difficult...only having 1 oz of water every 15 minutes. I have done so much research, watching youtube videos of others experiences, etc.
All of you look incredible, and I can't wait to post before and after pics!!
Can you tell me how long the process took before you actually had the surgery?0 -
I am 46. I am the mother of 2 boys (5 & 7). I had RNY Bypass 2 years ago. When I had surgery I weighed 347.5lbs. Today I weigh 170lbs and am working to lose 35 more. I am 5'7". I went from a size 28 pant to my current size 10. My husband had the same surgery 2 months later and he has lost 180lbs in 6 months and held. He currently weighs 185lbs and is 6'2".
My surgery was quite easy. It was laparoscopic. Compared with my 2 C-sections it was a walk in the park. I was up walking around within hours after surgery. My only negative side effect was an allergic reaction to the acid inhibitor prescribed post op. Once that was switched out I was good as gold. My husband had no negative side effects.
Prior to surgery I had high cholesterol, but no sleep apnea, my blood pressure was good and I had no other health problems. My husband had high blood pressure and sleep apnea (both are gone now).
The key is to follow the rules and do what your surgeon says. This is not a magic bullet. It's a tool, but you still have to watch what and how much you eat and you still should exercise. If you don't you can and probably will regain the weight. Though to be honest my husband doesn't exercise at all. I do now (a lot, I'm training for a 1/2 marathon), but I didn't for the 1st year post op. My sister in law lost 130lbs with RNY bypass 10 years ago and has regained nearly all of it through snacking.
As for the loose skin question.... Yes we have some loose skin. My husband's is mostly around his neck, and abdomen and it isn't to bad. My thighs have quite a bit, I could use a tummy tuck and I have some under arm wings. None on my face or neck. All and all not as bad as I was expecting though. I have a hernia right now so I might try to combine a hernia repair with a tummy tuck to save on costs. The rest I may just live with. I depends on your genetics, where you carried your weight, how much you lose, if you exercise etc.
I'm a 46 year old woman and I never expected to look like a 20 year old.0 -
My insurance was awful--I started with Texas Medicaid in August of 2011--I was on SSI Disability for many health reasons. Two months later, Texas laws changed and the insurance changed to a Medicaid HMO called Amerigroup. I fought for a year to have my surgery. Normally, I would have only had 6 dietary classes, one psych eval, and a naso gastric test, which would be done over a 6 month period. 3 denials later, and my surgery happened on 9/27/12. A year and two months later. It was well worth the wait!
And I am NOT a fan of exercise, but do try to get a little in. I believe completely that it's about diet and food management. I log every morsel that enters my mouth--weigh and measure accurately. I DO, at 20 months out, incorporate a sweet treat here and there--like ONE cookie instead of four, a small sliver of pie or cake. I've learned to savor every bite. Not hard and it's a way of life. Just comes natural now. And interestingly, my sons, who are 24, 23, and 21 have learned smaller portions are the way to go too and have all lost a few inches themselves!0 -
Can you tell me how long the process took before you actually had the surgery?
I went to my seminar in November 2007. I had to do the six month diet for insurance and then had to wait for a couple months for my doctor to have room on his surgery schedule. My surgery was September 2008.0 -
Just a word of warning...the side effect of dumping when eating sweets and fats DOES NOT affect everyone! I am only saying that because I was also very excited about that side effect prior to surgery. As a "sugar-addict" I thought that the surgery would make it impossible for me to eat that junk. Not so - seven months post surgery I can eat pretty much anything (except some dense proteins like chicken). I feel that the dumping side effects are widely touted as a benefit prior to surgery, and the impression is that you will never be able to tolerate the sweets and high fats foods that many of us overweight people struggle with. I've read studies that say the actual number of post GB patients that dump is as low as 30%. Now that said, seven months later I am still 80lbs lighter. My BP meds are 1/4th of what I was taking, heartburn and heart palpitations are gone, sleep apnea has improved, Blood sugar is lower and in normal range (I was pre-diabetic), fatty liver has improved, back and joint pain improved, even my asthma symptoms are reduced. I have loads more energy and walk 2-4 miles at least 4 days a week. The surgery definitely gave me a "reset" period, but I will have to continue to add exercise and control my eating - not so much quantity, but substance, to continue my weight loss. I would still say it is probably the best thing I've done for myself.
Oh, and I also had a six month diet and pre-testing period....it flew by. Don't even worry about that. I have six tiny laproscopic scars on my abdomen, no big deal. I am starting to notice some flappy arm wings as we head into summer, but I'm going to add more strength-training and see if that doesn't help. I've only walked for exercise so far as I hate lifting weights (boring), but I know I need to do more. Strength training is beneficial for a lot of reasons as women get older.0 -
Thank you all for the great information!! Although I still do not want to do the 6 month diet thing (If I could diet and lose weight in 6 months I wouldn't need the surgery!)
I hope the Dr will do the other 3 month option that my insurance offers!
Can you tell me if you had to pay your portion that insurance does not cover up front?0 -
I'm 21 months post RNY. and have been successful in my journey thus far. I'm 32 and weighted 340 lbs. I'm down to 193 now. I had hypertension, sleep apnea, fatty liver disease and was pre-diabetic. All of my conditions cleared up within 4 months of surgery. So yes, that part is great!
Now, here comes the not so good part. The reality is that 50% of weight loss surgery patients gain it all back within 5 years. Yes, even with the bypass you can gain it all back, especially if you are one of those few that don't dump (I don't unless I eat vast amounts of sugar). This surgery is a tool that basically forces you to undergo a total system reset. You will lose the majority of your weight in the first 8-12 months. I was told to expect about 100 lbs lost from the surgery itself. After that, you have to put the work in. I track my food (mostly) and I spend 4 to 5 hours a week in the gym. I keep track of my weight, my food and my exercise. When I want to, I can loosen my diet up some. Then when I notice that I've gained, I crack down and reduce my calorie intake. That's maintenance in it's basic form.
So, just keep it in mind, that there is no easy way out. Sure, the first 6 months are amazing due to losing all the weight, but keep in mind that you will have to work for it.
Here are a few things that you may want to consider for RNY:
1: Is not reversible. It is the most extreme weight loss surgery available. It cannot be revised to anything else. It permanently modifies your digestive tract. Other surgeries can be revised.
2. Because it modifies your digestive tract, you will no longer be as efficient at absorbing vitamins and minerals. You will need to take vastly more vitamins than a "normal" person, for the rest of your life. I take 3 mutlivitamins, 3 calcium chews, 6000 iU of extra D, B complex, extra C (for iron absorption) and iron. Iron deficiency is very common in RNY patients.
3. You should wear a medical bracelet for the rest of your life. A blind NG tube can puncture your new pouch.
4. Your "hungry" feeling will return after a few months. That portion of the stomach is still intact, unlike a VSG.
5. You may want to consider a VSG. They are becoming much more popular, however have a longer initial recovery.
Suggestions:
1. Keep up with the exercise, and make sure to start strength training now. Muscles will help to reduce the amount of extra skin you have, and will help you recover faster. I have extra skin everywhere, but my neck, inner thighs and abdomen are the worst areas.
2. Start tracking food now. Get yourself a nice digital scale if you don't have one already. You'll need it.
3. Don't stock up on protein. Your tastes will completely change post surgery.
4. Don't worry about the pre-op stuff, or the short term recovery. Focus on your goal, and the long term. That is where the biggest difference is made. If you can't handle a few months of recovery how would you handle a lifetime of living with the surgery.
5. Get a support system in place now, even if it's just on the internet. I've been so successful because my wife had the RNY 6 weeks before I did. It really helps having somebody in the house that knows what I've gone through.
6. Work on your 30/30 rule pre surgery. No liquids for 30 minutes before or after your meal, and take 30 minutes to eat your meal.
7. You will have good days, and you will have very bad days. Eat the wrong thing, and you could be out of commission for hours. Be diligent in what you put in your mouth during the first few months. Only try one new food at a time. Treat your pouch like an infant learning to eat for the first time.
8. You will have buyer's remorse at some point. Just push through it, and realize that it's a journey, not a race. Each day is different. You will get stronger and feel better with time.0 -
Thank you very much for the words of wisdom. I realize that this will not be an end all fix all, but just a reset period to get me back to where I should be. I go to the information session tomorrow and will start from there. I cannot work out right now due to severe plantar faciitis. I love lifting weights and may be able to do that portion at least for now. I am very anxious to see how things go tomorrow!!0
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Thank you very much for the words of wisdom. I realize that this will not be an end all fix all, but just a reset period to get me back to where I should be. I go to the information session tomorrow and will start from there. I cannot work out right now due to severe plantar faciitis. I love lifting weights and may be able to do that portion at least for now. I am very anxious to see how things go tomorrow!!
Hope things went well with your appointment. I had my sleeve about 3 years ago. Weighed 386 at my largest, 226 right now with another 60 to lose. I had a lot of the same issues you do and this surgery gave me my mobility back as well as my self confidence and pride. I can't say enough positive things about the gastric sleeve. I really had no issues with the surgery or recovery. I will point out here though that all of the surgeries are really just tools. Use the tool and you get the weight off. Keep using the tool and you keep the weight off.
PS - For the heal pain, the best advice I ever got and used was wearing Birkenstocks. I work in the corporate offices of a bank so I'm not talking about their sandals. I wear those too, but most of the time I wear the clogs and shoes. Expensive yes, but so worth it because I no longer have that aweful heal pain!0 -
Did you have to do the 6 months supervised diet? My plan has a 90 day requirement that can be done instead of the 6 month thing, and I am desperately hoping that I can do that instead.
Thank you all, and I look forward to getting to know you!
I am going to speak in favor of a multi-month period between "the decision" and the surgery. I ended up getting my insurance approval prior to the first appointment with the bariatric program folks. I had had six months of non-successful appointments with my Primary Care Physician, and unfortunately hit the magic 50 BMI where the insurance was automatic.
When I went to the 8 hour bariatric information session, I came out both inspired and overwhelmed with how big the changes needed to be. I started right away with their recommendations (roughly, 1500cal, minimum 64 oz of water, log everything, move more, no caffeine, carbonation or alcohol). The process has been very successful for me right away, but having a few months to "dry-run" the process will be a good thing for me.
I have taken care of all of the pre-requisites (except the Advanced Care Directive . . . need to talk with my wife about that this week) and meet with the surgeon next Wednesday. I am excited to get a surgery date, but depending on when they will be ready for me, I may need to push it back to August to fit it in with our family schedule.
I'm not too concerned about the timing, as the pre-surgery protocol is working for me!
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Hi Mary,
I had VSG about 11 months ago. I'm 5'6" and I was 275 when I started pre-op. (Highest weight was 290). I wore size 24 pants and 3X tops. I also had high blood pressure and had bouts of plantar fasciitis for many years (omg! Painful!). My knees hurt all the time, but I never saw my doctor for it because I knew it was due to the weight I was carrying. I was 52 but felt 75. I lost and gained hundreds of pounds over the years but always wound up heavier than ever.
Since having surgery I've lost over 110 lbs and am nearly to my goal of 155 lbs. I wear a size 10 pants and M tops. I haven't worn that size since college! My blood pressure is normal. No meds. No more plantar fasciitis or knee pain. I love to take long walks and in January I took 2 teenage boys to Disney and walked them into the ground. They were begging me to slow down, lol.
I feel so much better. It's hard to even describe. I am so happy that I had surgery and was given a chance to get my life back. Surgery is not an easy way out, but it is a fantastic tool and will give you a real shot at achieving and maintaining a healthy weight. The only downside, IMO, is that I didn't do it sooner.
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My doctor said RNY in theory is reversible because nothing has been removed. I doubt that the plumbing would work well though, if they tried. Sleeve is definitely NOT reversible: once they take the 80% of the stomach out, it is gone forever although, I guess they could make a RNY of it.0
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It is reversible, but I think there are only 6 surgeons in the country who are qualified to do a reversal.0