July 21, 2014

KarenZen
KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
edited February 28 in Social Groups
Good morning, lovelies!

The sun is shining again here in Maine. We are having an AMAZING summer of good weather, so needed after a horrible, long, icy, snowy winter.

My weekend was crazy busy and great. Best part was that hubs set up my studio (it's a screenhouse on the deck overlooking the lake) so I now have a mosquito free zone to do art with all the neighborhood kids and to work on my Bigfoot erotica (not at the same time!!!). I usually hang fairy lights, move in a big table, fill a shelf with art bins, and drag my pottery wheel out there. When friends come over for dinner, we eat in the studio.

So that's my happy place!

Carly, check your messages re: your swimsuit.

Diana, I owe you a prize for Heather's Birthday challenge. How do you want it delivered? (Everyone, Diana lost 18 pounds during the Challenge!!)

Topic for discussion? How about hunger pangs? What do you do with them? How do you know when they're really real?
K.

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  • blondageh
    blondageh Posts: 923 Member
    That sounds like pure Heaven. Seriously, a lake view, working on Art. That does pretty much sound like you are living the life!

    Hunger pains...goooooood question. I only get brain pains. As in my brain singles me saying OMG, I want food and I want it NOW. Othwrwise, my tummy talks to me sometimes when it growls, but I have never noticed being hungry when it does that which is funny. I know I have tuned out true hungry for so long I have messed up my cues. I get headaches, light headed and naseauted. But nothing compares to the psychological hunger. The wake up or laying in bed trying to go to sleep and all I can think about is running to the pantry to calm my nerves.
  • mikesgirl4evr
    mikesgirl4evr Posts: 363 Member
    Good morning peeps!!! Karen, I have to agree with Heather, your studio sounds like absolute heaven. Today is a day of running for me. Here, there and everywhere, lol.

    As for hunger pains, that's a crazy one for me. I haven't had a true hunger pain since April 2006 when I had my surgery. If I get a hunger pain it's completely psychological. I can actually go all day without eating and not notice. At most, my blood sugar will drop and remind me that I need to eat.

    Have a great day all, have to run for the bus.
  • NorahCait
    NorahCait Posts: 325 Member
    Good morning!

    Oh, Karen, I'm so glad you're having nice weather! And how exciting to have a studio! It sounds like a lovely little spot. The house my mom left had a little room off the garage with huge windows on 3 walls that she used as a little studio. (I have a feeling you two would get along famously!)

    Hunger is soooo difficult! I'm lucky in that my antidepressant acts as a mild appetite suppressant. One way I know if I've forgotten it is if I'm ravenously hungry before noon. Once that effect wears off (usually midday), it's a little more of a will power thing. Drinking a lot of water definitely helps, as does getting up and moving around a bit. Nothing like sitting at a desk all day to make you fantasize about what you want to eat. Knowing when it's real is hard. I know for sure it's real hunger when those little packets of tuna I keep in my desk drawer start sounding like the Best Thing Ever. It's harder when I'm having a specific craving because it takes a little while to suss out if I'm Actually Hungry or just craving.

    When I get a craving, I tend to play a little game with myself: drink 1/4-1/2 of my 1L water bottle, and tell myself I'll reassess in 10 minutes. Sometimes I forget about it and then, obviously, it's not real hunger. If I don't forget, I'll try to do that same thing again. Usually if I get to 3 rounds, I know it's real and I should eat something (I try not to give in to cravings and make a better choice, but sometimes it happens).
  • catladyksa
    catladyksa Posts: 1,269 Member
    Gosh, good question Karen...I don't recall getting 'hunger pains'...probably because I am not starving myself...I try and eat several times a day...small feeds, so I don't get hunger pains. I guess I know myself well enough now, that if I let myself get to the point where I have hunger pains....I will be stuffing way too much food in my mouth and I don't want to go overboard with the food.

    Your studio sounds heavenly!!! What a nice way to relax...pottery, art etc!!! Hope you all have a great day!!!!
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    A couple of years ago, I went through a 4 week eating disorder program (called "partial hospitalization"--basically from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. every day during the week). Every morning when the nurse took my vitals, she would listen to my abdomen with her stethoscope, and she would say, "nope, nothing yet." Because my eating was so erratic--usually binging in the evening and then starving myself all day--my body was not digesting food as it should. It was hoarding it rather than processing it. , And I honestly never felt what I would call physical hunger. Rather, I kept feeling "brain" hunger--this compulsive need to eat food that would trigger the release of endorphins, so sugar and fat, high carb stuff.

    In the program, we ate three meals and two snacks every day. The first week or so, after every meal I would feel exhausted and cold. The nurse explained that in order to learn to digest again, my body was directing more blood flow to my organs and less to my appendages. Around day five, when she was listening to my abdomen, she said, "ah ha!" and then she let me listen. For the first time, there were actually NOISES in my belly. My stomach was working again. By the end of the four weeks, I had actually learned to recognize physical hunger again, something I hadn't been able to do since childhood.

    I try to remember this when I'm tempted to skip meals. Our bodies are designed to conserve during famine, and we can create false famines by not eating. One of my colleagues lost quite a bit of weight last year, and she said her secret was that she started eating more and more often. I'm trying to keep 100 calorie, high protein snacks in the fridge. Yoghurt, hard boiled eggs. cheese sticks.

    Now all I need is a pair of tall, muscley, tanned men to feed me my snacks in the studio and fan me with palm fronds when the air gets too still.
    Karen
  • blondageh
    blondageh Posts: 923 Member
    Well I am doing good today then. I already ate breakfast and snack. Thinking about heading out for a super light lunch to keep fueled. Its so hot and I have such cramps, I just want to curl up in A/C but I like the idea of stayong fueled.
  • artelyn
    artelyn Posts: 175 Member
    Karen, thanks for the offer of a "prize" but keep it and use it for one of the mini challenges or something. I told Heather the same thing... my prize was losing the weight and being motivated again. That's all I need. But I appreciate it! Thank you!

    Not sure I have actual hunger pains. Maybe once in a great while if I skip breakfast and I am out doing errands or school things, I might get a growly belly and feel a little shaky. But I think for the most part they are mental hunger pains, or cravings that I try to drink through (water not alcohol!!) Or. I just get up and get a little snack. something just to give me a taste and let me get back to doing whatever it is I am doing which lately is playing referee to the two kiddos!

    Hope everyone had a nice weekend!
    Diana
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    Oh, hunger pains. My guy swears that I think with my stomach. The only difficulty I occasionally have is that my thirst I sometimes mistake for hunger. Otherwise, when I start to feel hungry or grumbly, I know. However, my brain also plays games with me and gives me psychological hunger pains, too. The kind I can't shake unless I eat EXACTLY what I'm craving? If not, I'll go all Godzilla on everything else in sight... :( So I do know basic hunger pains, but I also have the craving hunger pains that are far more psychological (sometimes physical manifestations of a building block my body knows it is out of - and the weird food associations my brain has for that chemical/component)...and thirst tossed in there for good measure to mix me up!

    Aside from that, kind of excited because my doc called in a med for me for the blood pressure issue, still have to go see her Thursday, but at least I'll start hopefully feeling better soon. Still trying to decide if I need to reschedule my appointment in OKC on Wednesday... (that is the endocrinologist - and still no idea what to expect there)...

    Carly in super sunny OK today...
  • PatrickB_87
    PatrickB_87 Posts: 738 Member
    I have normal hunger pains and can usually tell the difference between real hunger and a craving, especially now that my eating habits are back to normal. I tend to feel hunger pains around my normal meal times, I feel hungry but have no cravings. I run into issues when I ignore my hunger and push through for several hours (when I delay eating for one reason or another), then I run into the danger of having heavy cravings and difficulty not acting on them). I will also tend to drink before eating wich helps me know if I am truly hungry or thirsty. But if I eat roughly on time and have a suitable meal then I can avoid a lot of my issues. Almost all of my unsuitable meals have happened because I didn't eat when necessary.

    If I eat a couple of hours before exercising then I can also usually avoid feeling hungry when I get back, which helps avoid destroying all my hard work.
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,103 Member
    As far as quick snack before workouts, someone suggested dates. I can't stand raisins, so I've never tried a date, but if snagging a few could do a quick good once over on the body, that would be awesome!
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